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Umm, let's take it up a notch. If police uncover plans of

Posted on: May 14, 2024 at 08:33:29 CT

hokie VT

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Terrorists or criminals to launch an assault on a school, a college, a shopping mall or a hospital, should the police have to stand down, ignore the information and allow the crimes to take place?

Certainly, if the information was found out, it had to be by intercepting communications. Either written communication or oral communication which would infringe upon the criminals' freedom of speech.

Should criminals be allowed to plan their crimes either in public or private without anyone infringing upon their rights to do so?

The right to free speech permits planning, organizing, preparation, and discussions about their upcoming attacks. Is that correct?

Is there any reason or excuse to ever, ever have intelligence either from military or law-enforcement to prevent criminal activity?

Edited by hokie at 08:37:40 on 05/14/24

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Umm, let's take it up a notch. If police uncover plans of - hokie VT - 5/14 08:33:29

I don't know if I get your point. - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 08:59:58

So you believe that the right to freedom of speech does not - hokie VT - 5/14 09:47:40

Ok, thx princess. Now run along!(nm) - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 10:51:30

Read the second and fourth ammendment. - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 10:00:55

crimes can be stopped - meatiger MU - 5/14 08:52:15

If it’s not a crime, then why would they be stopping it? (nm) - Outsider MU - 5/14 08:54:36

Should have said more prevented - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:06:47

No, yes, N/A (except as to discussions, which is yes), and - ummmm MU - 5/14 08:46:28

Always appreciate answers with no supporting facts or - hokie VT - 5/14 09:12:13

You asked "yes" or "no" questions, but as I noted you - ummmm MU - 5/14 09:23:13

Does it bother you at all to have to work so hard to spin - hokie VT - 5/14 09:39:50

good grief you're a pathetic permanently ignorant - 90Tiger STL - 5/14 18:40:39

Hokie, by your own standards, you should be arrested - TigerMatt STL - 5/14 11:13:02

The optimist in me wants to say this is an act. - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 09:44:00

Change the subject. Duh. Nm - hokie VT - 5/14 09:50:52

You were the object of my post. There was no change - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 10:01:27

Do you not understand what the difference - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:41:11

If you want long answers, don't ask yes or no questions (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 5/14 09:15:28

I keep thinking this is a discussion board. You think it's a - hokie VT - 5/14 09:49:47

I don't think you know what a "discussion" is(nm) - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 10:03:43

Also, what supporting facts would I even begin to include - ummmm MU - 5/14 09:17:31

BOAISY (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 5/14 09:21:22

Not very convincing, IMO(nm) - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 09:33:05

Umm remember, "there is no middle ground". Nm - hokie VT - 5/14 08:36:30

There is no middle ground between - ummmm MU - 5/14 08:48:06

Living in a civilized society means there will be limits to - Outsider MU - 5/14 08:52:26

How is telling someone - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:08:18

I didn’t say that, I said there will be limits to - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:17:29

RE: I didn’t say that, I said there will be limits to - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:23:32

We are a nation of laws, are we not? Do you - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:24:42

RE: We are a nation of laws, are we not? Do you - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:27:48

So how do you define freedom? Because this discussion just - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:31:42

RE: So how do you define freedom? Because this discussion just - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:32:42

Ok fine, so you don’t believe we are a nation of laws… - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:35:36

I know we are a nation of laws - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:36:33

Super! Then we have no more need to discuss this…. - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:38:53

So you think any law - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:42:16

Laws are in conflict with absolute freedom. So if you say - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:51:27

lol, I never said that at all - meatiger MU - 5/14 10:03:19

Explain how that works. (nm) - Outsider MU - 5/14 10:07:31

Good post. He probably doesn't understand it. Nm - hokie VT - 5/14 09:53:48

I think that's the argument that 4tigs tried to make - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 09:17:09

Depending on how you define punishment - meatiger MU - 5/14 09:25:15

right. We live in a civilized society. To protect the - CulturedDan KC - 5/14 09:02:05

Except when you arrest someone for speech alone, that - ummmm MU - 5/14 08:59:32

Nope, just know there is a difference between… - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:10:03

Sorry, I don't think we agree on free speech issues - ummmm MU - 5/14 09:13:04

Ok, got it. (nm) - Outsider MU - 5/14 09:18:26

Iiuc, He also believes that free speech allows for slander, - hokie VT - 5/14 10:05:24

Ummm isn’t an anarchist. And there is no right to not - TigerMatt STL - 5/14 11:01:33

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