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I think 2,3, 4 and 5 are about limited talent and

Posted on: December 23, 2023 at 10:52:16 CT
LamarFrazier MU
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1 is because, outside of East, there's no clear options.

Ball movement can be taught but moving without the ball gets pointless if your only real option is a forced three. We have no inside post threat.

We can't control dribble penetration because Illinois was far bigger and stronger and quicker (especially Shannon) than us.

I maintain that outside of East no one on this roster would start for another SEC team.
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Lack of talent is not really our issue - FIJItiger MU - 12/23 10:05:32
     I have said this a couple times this year - longtimereader MU - 12/23 14:38:39
     Fiji I mentioned above lost 2 wings to NBA and 2 to injury(nm) - oldtgr MU - 12/23 12:03:21
     Outside of East, who would be in Illinois’ rotation? - hou4mu MU - 12/23 11:38:38
          Pretty much everyone. We probably have 12 players that - FIJItiger MU - 12/23 11:41:07
               LOL - JDL UI - 12/23 15:16:42
                    Yep(nm) - DevilsAdvocate KC - 12/23 16:12:25
               RE: Pretty much everyone. We probably have 12 players that - KC rules MU - 12/23 12:06:51
               After last night’s game, that’s an amazingly stupid - hou4mu MU - 12/23 12:01:02
                    No Kobe this year. Thats why all the returners looked better - thytiger MU - 12/23 12:04:32
                         yep, Kobe was a difference maker (nm) - zounami MU - 12/23 12:18:36
                              And Hodge - KC rules MU - 12/23 12:46:07
     Looks pretty obvious we aren't very talented this year - Diamond Dave MU - 12/23 11:34:31
          Disagree. Plenty talented. Not elite talented but talent - FIJItiger MU - 12/23 11:37:59
               Agree. This team has talent. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/23 13:17:16
                    so the problem is coaching? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/23 15:58:27
                         Injuries are a problem. So is consistency - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/23 22:32:11
     $25M buyout is our issue... - zounami MU - 12/23 11:06:02
          Have you seen our recruiting class next year? All you - thytiger MU - 12/23 12:06:45
               That does not fit his agenda. (nm) - go tigers MU - 12/23 14:10:40
               4* high school recruits... how many of them will have an - zounami MU - 12/23 12:19:55
                    The high 4 stars need to be regulars - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/23 22:33:57
          His buyout is not relevant or an issue at all - FIJItiger MU - 12/23 11:36:39
          No it is not. There is absolutely zero chance that he - alwaysright MU - 12/23 11:13:12
               oh, does the buyout drop to $0 in 2 years? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/23 11:35:45
          And we extended him after 1 yr and 1 NCAA win. - LamarFrazier MU - 12/23 11:12:08
               He has the #1 recruiting class coming in to add to the frosh - tigertix MU - 12/23 11:19:08
                    Where do we have the #1 recruiting class?? - shorty MU - 12/23 12:39:42
                    He doesn't and you still have to coach - LamarFrazier MU - 12/23 12:38:24
                    incoming 5* recruits... Duke: 4, Kentucky: 3, Missouri: 0... - zounami MU - 12/23 12:02:19
                    Must be a surprise to Duke (four 5 stars) - Lovely Rita UW - 12/23 11:52:50
                         That nitpick does nothing to invalidate the point - hou4mu MU - 12/23 12:05:55
                              It does, actually. (1) We don't have the #1 class. Duke does - zounami MU - 12/23 12:17:54
                                   Give it some time - KC rules MU - 12/23 12:49:48
                    Exactly and to complain about a second year let down - KC rules MU - 12/23 11:49:34
               "dumb" is an understatement (nm) - zounami MU - 12/23 11:18:31
     I think 2,3, 4 and 5 are about limited talent and - LamarFrazier MU - 12/23 10:52:16
          Not having Grill is more of an issue than we think, he was - tigertix MU - 12/23 11:13:36
               I think he's vastly overrated and there's a reason ISU - LamarFrazier MU - 12/23 12:26:31
     agree. they play an NBA game plan with crappy players and - TigerFan92 STL - 12/23 10:48:46
     The 3 Point shots we take are usually open. - alwaysright MU - 12/23 10:41:38
          It isn't about them being open - TigerFan92 STL - 12/23 10:51:01
               35% as a team is not suck. - alwaysright MU - 12/23 11:04:02
                    Take out East and what is it? - LamarFrazier MU - 12/23 11:11:35
                         93 of 286 - .325 - Ohtiger MU - 12/23 11:52:57
                              Those guys you listed should not have a green light from 3(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/23 12:29:26
                                   Why? Vanover and Carters career shooting percentages have - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/23 23:05:11
                                        Having Vanover hang out at the 3 point line for huge - Ohtiger MU - 12/24 08:38:00
                                             That’s exactly what he was recruited to do - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/24 09:36:37
                                                  Bad assessment. He's horrible at defense, and really bad - Ohtiger MU - 12/24 09:44:45
                                                       If his entire playing history consisted - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/24 14:27:17
                                                            Do not know how much coaching he's getting at Mizzou. - Ohtiger MU - 12/24 15:21:38
                                                                 How many dunks has he missed? - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/24 15:36:59
                                                                      Alot. You must not go to games or watch away ones on TV - Ohtiger MU - 12/24 15:45:23
                                                                           So how many dunks has he missed? - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/24 15:49:07
                                                                                Again, attend some home games and watch some away - Ohtiger MU - 12/24 16:03:27
                                                                                     He’s missed 7 shots from 2 - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/24 16:44:56
                                                                                          Attend the games and you would see (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 12/24 17:02:39
                                                                                               Or just admit that what you are saying isn’t true. - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/24 17:48:35
                                                                                                    It's not. Shut up (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 12/24 20:55:50
                                                                                                         He didn’t miss a 2 point attempt against - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/24 21:20:19
                         RE: Take out East and what is it? - alwaysright MU - 12/23 11:18:37
                              I'm hoping Illinois is just an elite D team and Honor will - LamarFrazier MU - 12/23 12:29:03
                                   He shot better than that last season (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/24 08:58:49
               True there's a reason they're open(nm) - LamarFrazier MU - 12/23 10:52:42
     Mostly agree with this (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/23 10:32:04
     If he doesn't figure out how to use a 5 at this level he - alstl MU - 12/23 10:31:56
     RE: Lack of talent is not really our issue - KC rules MU - 12/23 10:31:54
     Disagree - phrejd MU - 12/23 10:26:02
          RE: Disagree - slamduncan KC - 12/23 10:39:29
     Very good analysis. Recruiting aside, it usually - GA Tiger MU - 12/23 10:16:05
     ok thanks "MU basketball can never recover" guy - Columbian Gold MU - 12/23 10:10:25
          You are not in the intended target audience - FIJItiger MU - 12/23 10:15:30




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