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Posted on: December 23, 2023 at 09:32:59 CT
615Tiger STL
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Not interested in changing your mind, but you are wrong. Self and Underwood don't have a roster full of mediocre kids who have never played together before this year.

You are making statements that are just assumptions and guesses, because we will never see Self and Underwood coach a team like this.

A coach can only do so much. The players are the ones on the court making decisions and making athletic plays.

What is different from last year, when everyone on this board was thrilled with Gates? The difference isn't Gates. He is still here. The difference is the roster, which had significant turnover.

But suddenly Gates can't coach?
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Biggest issue with the loss… - Carlos Rossi KC - 12/23 06:29:28
     Good thing is 8pm on FS1 isn’t a big stage.Most fans outside - MIZtigerZOU MU - 12/23 08:53:12
          What was score. Probably worse than even I expect.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 12/23 10:21:14
               This has to be a character you’re doing - MIZtigerZOU MU - 12/23 10:36:10
     We should have expected to lose. But we should have - alwaysright MU - 12/23 08:25:26
          RE: We should have expected to lose. But we should have - Brewer MU - 12/23 10:28:23
     Hmm...I figured that out after 3 minutes. At which point I - GA Tiger MU - 12/23 08:16:16
          Lol (nm) - phrejd MU - 12/23 09:15:27
               RE: Lol (nm) - MIZtigerZOU MU - 12/23 09:26:56
                    I welcome someone telling HOW I'm wrong. I note - GA Tiger MU - 12/23 10:20:20
                         Well there were no rotations in the first 3 minutes - phrejd MU - 12/23 10:33:28
     RE: Biggest issue with the loss… - slamduncan KC - 12/23 07:54:26
     The 1996 Y-league uniforms? - Lovely Rita UW - 12/23 07:39:03
     Particularly galling was the fact Mizzou was out worked and - BH O'bonga MU - 12/23 07:21:26
          It’s easy to look lazy when everyone on the other team is - MIZtigerZOU MU - 12/23 08:51:27
               That may be the case, but in that type of matchup - Carlos Rossi KC - 12/23 08:56:36
                    It’s easier said than done. Why didn’t every team slow - MIZtigerZOU MU - 12/23 09:03:19
                         I’m not saying that if Bill Self was coaching the same - Carlos Rossi KC - 12/23 09:11:45
                              Underwood looked just as calm and relaxed as Gates appeared. - BH O'bonga MU - 12/23 10:22:12
                              Vanover shot 175 3’s last year. Shot 33%. He was brought - MIZtigerZOU MU - 12/23 09:18:14
                                   RE: Vanover shot 175 3’s last year. Shot 33%. He was brought - BH O'bonga MU - 12/23 10:28:27
                                        He played 6 minutes last night. The crazy people are the - MIZtigerZOU MU - 12/23 10:35:17
                                             RE: He played 6 minutes last night. The crazy people are the - BH O'bonga MU - 12/23 11:19:38
                                                  He played 6 minutes. That’s barely any time - MIZtigerZOU MU - 12/23 12:05:41
                                                       Complaint? IMO, his minutes should be spread between Butler, - BH O'bonga MU - 12/23 12:25:21
                                                            They are trending that way. It depends on the opponent - MIZtigerZOU MU - 12/23 13:35:32
                                   **this** - Gridbirds8115 MU - 12/23 10:15:49
          "A far more talented Illinois team" - 615Tiger STL - 12/23 07:25:29
               They might not be elite, but how differently do - Carlos Rossi KC - 12/23 08:51:35
                    Underwood was 12-21 his second year at Illinois - MIZtigerZOU MU - 12/23 09:36:27
                    Okay - 615Tiger STL - 12/23 09:32:59
               RE: "A far more talented Illinois team" - Ohtiger MU - 12/23 07:45:51
     This team doesn't have the talent to compete with good teams - 615Tiger STL - 12/23 07:19:36
          Which guys were cast offs? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 12/23 07:39:29
     RE: Biggest issue with the loss… - humble1 MU - 12/23 07:12:57
     RE: Biggest issue with the loss… - bstiger MU - 12/23 06:58:42




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