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Posted on: February 27, 2023 at 14:15:58 CT
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e for peak load or you have blackouts period

Maintenance costs alone on wind are 1.5X the current cost of power and that doesn't include storage and grid support when they aren't turning

Every solar farm has to have a gas plant built to support the grid when clouds go by as they are the fastest to turn on.
That is NOT included in any cost estimates for solar.
Solar is worthless at night and there is zero storage technology that will help and at best we are 20 years away from a working solution (ie not batteries). A truckload of batteries will power a town of 200 homes for 4 hours and you need new batteries every 5-6 years

Rooftop solar is the same except even harder to support the grid. It is really wasted energy. Yes the owners will reduce their bill by a little. Yes the other utility customers will pick up the bill for the generation that still has to be produced.

See the HBO special about Nevada for the details about how someone has to pay

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we get 74.4% of our electricity from coal, 2nd only to - phrejd MU - 2/27 12:48:22
     Nukes are the only way to go. Now would be the time(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 2/27 18:01:31
          This is your answer to the Ukraine situation? - Wildcat KSU - 2/27 23:46:22
     The longterm solution to our energy needs is - BigSlickTiger MU - 2/27 13:42:42
          saying "the solution is ____" is part of the problem. - phrejd MU - 2/27 14:52:49
               stop riding that fence like some nickel stripper and make - lqf2b8 KC - 2/27 15:49:26
               Then you're part of the problem. - kmawv8 MU - 2/27 15:43:24
                    no, i had many commas. i said "solution is ___, ___, ___ and - phrejd MU - 2/27 16:06:32
          Absolutely. Wind and solar as they exist now will never - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/27 14:43:07
          Nuclear, done right, is the best solution - cooter MU - 2/27 14:40:52
               We didn't though. People equate nuclear energy with nuclear - DHighlander NWMSU - 2/27 15:43:07
     I'd love for MO to pull a FL and just say **** the federal - lqf2b8 KC - 2/27 13:23:51
          if they're going to build wave things - phrejd MU - 2/27 13:25:47
     Wolf Creek produces some nuke power for Missouri too(nm) - lqf2b8 KC - 2/27 13:21:48
          that's what i was thinking too - phrejd MU - 2/27 13:23:31
     Wind and solar are a joke. a very bad one(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 2/27 13:19:22
          the wind farm fiasco can go away - phrejd MU - 2/27 13:22:34
               Its fine to toy with but the power companies have to generat - TigerFan92 STL - 2/27 14:15:58
               It's pretty well documented Tigerfan92's hatred for anything - tgr MU - 2/27 13:51:07
                    If you read any of them you might learn about how it works - TigerFan92 STL - 2/27 14:18:22
                         Solar is a $14 billion industry in the US. But sure, - tgr MU - 2/27 15:11:06
                              research for once. - TigerFan92 STL - 2/27 15:16:30
                                   Maybe read my original post that you replied on. - tgr MU - 2/27 15:53:09
                                        You clearly don't understand supply and demand. - TigerFan92 STL - 2/27 16:44:50
                                   dumb - phrejd MU - 2/27 15:34:39
                                        you clearly have no understanding of power generation - TigerFan92 STL - 2/27 16:52:38
                                        There's a lot of truth in what you're saying. - kmawv8 MU - 2/27 15:40:06
                                             that sounds like a good reason not to rely on coal plants (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/27 15:42:09
                                                  There are benefits and drawbacks to every form of power. - kmawv8 MU - 2/27 15:46:22
                                                       here's my solution - phrejd MU - 2/27 16:09:34
                    its weird how some people take it personally - colonel angus beef KC - 2/27 13:59:28
                         maybe his real name is Mr Peabody so he is - SabertoothTiger MU - 2/27 14:23:43
     Thank you for bringing attention to this important cause - Ace AU - 2/27 13:05:48
     Evergy says only 37% is coal as of 2021. - tgr MU - 2/27 13:01:21
          that's capacity i think, not production or consumption (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/27 13:05:02
     That's about to change in the more progressive - Rabbit Test MU - 2/27 12:58:59
          a tiny solar farm near the airport isn't going to do squat. - phrejd MU - 2/27 13:02:27
               Would power about 70,000 homes, or roughly one-third - Rabbit Test MU - 2/27 13:11:08
                    call me skeptical (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/27 13:14:30
                         Hi skeptical, I’m Cosmo (nm) - Cosmo MU - 2/27 14:18:40
     Selfishly, this pleases me. - kmawv8 MU - 2/27 12:53:42
          IKR- its a lot worse then most people suspect - JG A - 2/27 13:04:27
               lol (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/27 13:05:57
          but that % is crazy - phrejd MU - 2/27 12:58:17
               nuclear is scary and hard to pronounce(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/27 13:07:16
                    looks like it's only scary if you're west of the mississippi - phrejd MU - 2/27 13:10:38
                         they probably say "New-Clear"(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/27 13:12:34
                              wait. isnt' that how you say it? - phrejd MU - 2/27 13:15:40
                                   oh, I had it, for the southerners, one syllable - dangertim MU - 2/27 13:18:54
     we can still use coal for electric cars. - dangertim MU - 2/27 12:51:12
          yeah but where do you put it in? (nm) - phrejd MU - 2/27 12:55:42
               BOAISY(nm) - dangertim MU - 2/27 13:06:11
               In the coal chute.....duh (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 2/27 13:00:04
          According to some in Missouri - Wildcat KSU - 2/27 12:53:16
               * - kmawv8 MU - 2/27 12:54:35




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