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Pinkel's system wouldn't work in the NIL/ free-agency era...

Posted on: May 23, 2022 at 10:23:15 CT
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His "diamonds in the rough" would transfer out as soon as they "emerge from the rough" with a breakout season.






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Drink has one foot out the door, according to a PM poster - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 07:43:50
     this is like the guy who convinces himself his gf will leave - deputyfife MU - 5/24 11:53:52
     RE: Drink has one foot out the door, according to a PM poster - jhawkkiller MU - 5/23 18:04:30
          It's about NIL support, nothing else... and the claims are - zounami MU - 5/23 18:57:08
     You can't even link to the post? (nm) - mizzou john MU - 5/23 12:34:48
          it's from a pay message board, john - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 13:39:13
               I pay for PM, so yes, a link would work for me. - mizzou john MU - 5/23 13:53:51
                    well, I don’t pay for PM - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 14:16:53
                         And you didn't even post the screensahot! - mizzou john MU - 5/24 07:30:03
                              He posted the text verbatim. You're getting worked up over - zounami MU - 5/24 08:00:55
                                   odd flex, for sure(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/24 08:21:43
                              LOL - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/24 07:57:04
               Well, it's out in the twitterverse now... - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 13:42:57
                    We’ll that’s not good. nm - MATO MU - 5/23 14:56:38
          It's posted in the post above by OGT...kind of (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 12:41:26
     When he bolts, hopefully after some success, promote Hamdan - miketig MU - 5/23 11:53:25
          HELL NO - alwaysright MU - 5/23 12:02:59
     Maybe Drink thought we’d act like an SEC school since we’re - MATO MU - 5/23 11:27:39
     Nah but he is combative when running off players. I think - TigerFan92 STL - 5/23 10:50:26
          huh?... are you sure you replied to the right post? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 10:56:59
               Yes he ain’t leaving. He’s just an a-hole when he wants to - TigerFan92 STL - 5/23 13:46:49
     I suspect that's true... There has been no organized effort - zounami MU - 5/23 10:35:46
          not a conspiracy you don't latch on to, it seems - sfprman MU - 5/23 17:43:45
          Don't underestimate the impact of 2015. Numerous boosters, - Fourth and Long MU - 5/23 12:09:10
               Go back to phag.net (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/23 13:48:06
          I don't think MU is "inexplicably behind" - Genco98 MU - 5/23 11:28:24
               "Businesses" have nothing to do with it, other than being a - zounami MU - 5/23 11:30:57
          According to what and whom? - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 10:48:48
               Drink's recruiting has taken a hit as the "NIL" bidding wars - zounami MU - 5/23 11:03:37
                    He just had the highest ranked class ever at Mizzou and - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 11:41:21
                    Show us on the doll where NIL touched you (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:14:21
                         Now thats funny - STLTIGER MU - 5/23 16:16:32
                         what's the point of this low IQ reply? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:15:04
                              to make fun of you obviously - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:16:54
                                   then at least try to be clever about it (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:18:16
                                        It was already too clever for you to get it so maybe I need - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:19:50
                                             "show us where on the doll...." yeah, so fvcking clever (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:21:15
                                                  you are a delicate type - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:22:35
                                                       you're doubling down on the low IQ ad hominems (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:28:52
                                                            I guess it will be a lonely few decades for you then - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:32:05
                                                                 weird reply (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:32:50
                                                                      So that's a no for you I guess. - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:33:28
                                                                           don't be mean to others on the spectrum. You - SabertoothTiger MU - 5/23 11:43:29
                                                                                see, that was a bit more clever (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:50:22
                    How has it taken a hit? The last complete class was 15th - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:10:56
                         BTW, this is why you shouldn't ask the same question twice.. - zounami MU - 5/23 11:16:11
                              BTW, both of my questions were asked prior to you - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:21:49
                                   It was the same fvcking question, asked twice. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:29:12
                                        It wasn't the only thing in the post. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:46:59
                         There's been a clear drop-off. Many have noticed it, and... - zounami MU - 5/23 11:14:44
                              bama is 38th. Saban has fallen off for sure (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:19:12
                                   check "average player rating"... Bama 4.0 stars, MU 2.2 - zounami MU - 5/23 11:24:45
                                        Those CC players will get a 3 star rating. - Jmill88 MU - 5/23 19:17:37
                                        LOL. It's 4 commits and 5 commits. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:27:12
                                             you haven't refuted anything I said (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:28:29
                                                  ...and I never claimed it was a large sample size (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:33:35
                                                       Sure, but you've implied it is large enough to draw - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:38:10
                                                            That depends on one's level of foresight. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:49:00
                                                                 I must have missed that chapter in my stats books. - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:50:49
                                                                      You mustn't be very good at investing, either. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:58:05
                                                                           ..being able to spot potential trends early on is a valuable - zounami MU - 5/23 11:59:15
                                                                                Am I to assume you are good at investing then? (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 12:09:26
                                   LOL - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:22:53
                              Our current class has 4 commits. The rankings at this point - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:16:20
                                   you've proven in the past that you're extremely naive... - zounami MU - 5/23 11:17:46
          well, allegedly wasn't Sterk shown the door because - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:41:08
               It was a factor, and so far I'm less than impressed (to put - zounami MU - 5/23 10:55:19
                    why? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:58:09
                         If I were AD, I can assure you we'd have an NIL operation - zounami MU - 5/23 11:01:07
                              There is an NIL collective at MU - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:02:52
                                   You already asked this, and I already answered it... - zounami MU - 5/23 11:04:13
                                        Advancing Missouri Athletes - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:08:42
                                             I figured that's what you were talking about... - zounami MU - 5/23 11:13:53
                                                  Are you talking about the same class that Saban just - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 12:03:07
                                                  Our class of last year wasn't complete before the - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:18:56
                                                       Not "escalated"... escalatING... the arms race is - zounami MU - 5/23 11:20:49
                                                            I used your quote, you dummy. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:24:42
                                                                 and I'm explaining it to you (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:27:41
                                                                      It was a dumb point to make and I'm calling you on it. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:30:48
                                                                           all you're doing is proving that you don't understand it (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:31:28
               When he was fired, ADs were not allowed to be involved - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 10:50:15
                    perhaps I stated that poorly - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:53:32
                         Yeah, I still find that hard to believe. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 10:57:33
                         RE: perhaps I stated that poorly - Panthera MU - 5/23 10:57:32
                              He was an incompetent buffoon on many levels. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:06:11
                              Oh, and to be clear on my end, I believe that may have - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 10:58:39
                                   I don’t know either - Panthera MU - 5/23 11:19:19
          I don’t think we know what’s being organized. It’s all - Fool on the Hill MU - 5/23 10:40:33
               I should add that if Drink expects unwavering support at... - zounami MU - 5/23 10:53:15
               RE: I don’t think we know what’s being organized. It’s all - slamduncan STL - 5/23 10:46:30
                    Not now, but I'm confident there will be federal legislation - zounami MU - 5/23 11:09:57
                    I agree.(nm) - Fool on the Hill MU - 5/23 10:47:34
     sounds like Saban nm - largetiger MU - 5/23 10:16:00
          huh?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:22:07
               Saban is demanding and hard to get along with although he - largetiger MU - 5/23 10:29:48
                    I don't think anyone said that about Drink - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:31:22
     What, he wants more than 45k fans at a home game? - zoomer 99 - 5/23 10:08:01
          bad startrs and bad finishes each year - sfprman MU - 5/23 20:52:42
          Mizzou has fair weather fans, on the whole, and the... - Deputy Dawg MU - 5/23 10:26:50
          True, but despite how so many here feel about most bowls, he - Fool on the Hill MU - 5/23 10:24:22
               Exactly Pinkel had tremendous bowls wins - Genco98 MU - 5/23 11:08:18
               in 2006 we had 50K at the first three home games - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:27:22
                    If you don't care about the bowl games what do - Genco98 MU - 5/23 11:10:51
          He should not have come here - Genco98 MU - 5/23 10:14:55
               It was a great move for him. He is now a SEC HC. - Erwin Fletcher STL - 5/23 10:27:13
                    you think he's gonna do well enough here to get a better - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:28:45
                         Yes I think so but it will take some time and patience(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 5/23 18:54:05
                         Yes. I know a guy that works in the - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 10:30:01
                              did you chuckle when you posted that, Lt. J. Dangle?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:31:51
                                   Maybe a little Bill. Certainly wasn't enough for a guffaw - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 11:59:31
               Mizzou's fanbase isn't big/strong enough to survive - Eggs MU - 5/23 10:22:14
                    RE: Mizzou's fanbase isn't big/strong enough to survive - slamduncan STL - 5/23 10:23:57
     Sounds like a bunch of Odom boys having a circle jerk... - BandG MU - 5/23 10:02:29
          Why do you say the one school he would leave for is - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 10:09:38
               Well it used to be the one but that was before Harsin went.. - BandG MU - 5/23 10:29:40
                    And Auburn would go from Malzahn to a Malzahn - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 10:31:18
                         they have a much higher celling than Mizzou - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:35:08
                              Wait, so we are just naming schools that have a higher - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 12:09:49
                              RE: they have a much higher celling than Mizzou - slamduncan STL - 5/23 10:40:01
          I'm sorry this post hurt your feelings - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:08:28
               Didn't hurt my feelings at all...IDGAF who is the coach... - BandG MU - 5/23 10:33:10
               Thus endeth this reading of the gospel of FMB - redngray MU - 5/23 10:16:20
     Who is LB3?(nm) - Genco98 MU - 5/23 09:43:38
          A player who will likely be a free agent after this season - Fourth and Long MU - 5/23 10:00:45
               Fret about it, Nancy (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 5/23 10:10:48
          RE: Who is LB3?(nm) - slamduncan STL - 5/23 09:44:25
     Reality, we just signed our highest ranked recruiting class - Fourth and Long MU - 5/23 09:35:07
     Trust the process. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/23 09:28:49
     IMO pulling Badie from the Army game hurt, we needed that - MU-TULSA MU - 5/23 09:17:02
          Agree - if you aren't trying to win your bowl game for your - Genco98 MU - 5/23 09:43:08
               they tried to win - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:46:32
               I believe we also successfully tried declining bowl games - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/23 09:45:01
                    drink declined a bowl his first year.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/23 09:49:53
               RE: Agree - if you aren't trying to win your bowl game for your - slamduncan STL - 5/23 09:44:58
                    Not following that one(nm) - Genco98 MU - 5/23 10:00:52
                         RE: Not following that one(nm) - slamduncan STL - 5/23 10:08:30
          Bowl games are irrelevant now. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/23 09:41:28
               Yeah - unfortunately that's what probably too many - Genco98 MU - 5/23 10:13:57
          that game meant nothing(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 5/23 09:29:28
               Maybe not to some,but to fans it meant a lot, - MU-TULSA MU - 5/23 09:37:26
                    That was either really deep or non-sensical. I can't - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 09:38:46
                         Messed up correcting it, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 5/23 10:31:23
          that win changes very little(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:22:48
               It ties Drink to Mizzou for another year - doughboy MU - 5/23 09:47:40
                    with much respect - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:49:39
               You might see that and most bowls for the exhibitions they - Fool on the Hill MU - 5/23 09:33:20
     Heard the same thing - TigerMook MU - 5/23 08:45:13
     I recall being obliterated because my source said - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 08:33:23
          People attacked your history of dumbas5ery - alwaysright MU - 5/23 09:38:29
               no, people couldn't handle the idea that Drink may not be - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:40:34
                    There are people like that but Dave isn’t just a messenger. - alwaysright MU - 5/23 09:45:48
          people see and believe what they want to - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:43:46
               Whether this is true or not, discussing it on an open forum - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 08:51:31
                    would you rather discuss over AOL instant messenger? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:53:56
                         Of course it's not your job and I didn't imply it was. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 09:19:34
                              so does talking **** on coaches and players - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:24:22
                                   Correct. And you were pretty outspoken against it - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 09:26:21
                                        LOL- show me a link where I said - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:32:59
                                             Fair enough - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 09:59:03
                                        this.(nm) - SabertoothTiger MU - 5/23 09:30:14
                         hell yes. hit me up at chunky_lover_53(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/23 08:56:04
                              LOL(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:57:04
     Complete baloney. - Rabbit Test MU - 5/23 08:28:20
          did you see the jobs mentioned? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:31:51
               Anything is a bigger job - Rabbit Test MU - 5/23 09:51:10
                    that makes no sense - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:03:54
     RE: Drink has one foot out the door, according to a PM poster - slamduncan STL - 5/23 08:12:26
          Last paragraph is correct. Like I said before - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 08:37:27
          So once again it appears we need a system guy who - SuperTone MU - 5/23 08:21:11
               Pinkel's system wouldn't work in the NIL/ free-agency era... - zounami MU - 5/23 10:23:15
                    You kinda made my point. They dont blow up until jr or sr - SuperTone MU - 5/23 10:32:56
                         why would it be too late to transfer as a jr or sr.? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:51:31
                              You have to have that great year to attract offers - SuperTone MU - 5/23 11:43:11
                              exactly... I don't get ST's point either (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 10:58:03
               Sure if you believe a post of another post from someone - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 08:33:11
                    Or you can have zero inside information and base anything - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 08:35:27
                         Or there is somewhere in the middle. You can actually - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 08:42:24
                              Jeremy Pruitt recruited well and was an insufferable a$$ - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 09:00:12
                              RE: Or there is somewhere in the middle. You can actually - slamduncan STL - 5/23 08:48:36
                                   Dude isn't winning a championship anywhere because - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 08:53:56
                                        RE: Dude isn't winning a championship anywhere because - slamduncan STL - 5/23 08:59:59
                                             It's a tough gig because we haven't really had the right - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 09:04:29
                                                  RE: It's a tough gig because we haven't really had the right - slamduncan STL - 5/23 09:20:56
                                                       Again, I hope NIL destroys college football(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 09:37:50
                                                            RE: Again, I hope NIL destroys college football(nm) - slamduncan STL - 5/23 09:43:33
                                                                 Not sure what DUFF of the SEC is. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/23 09:53:37
                                                                      RE: Not sure what DUFF of the SEC is. - slamduncan STL - 5/23 09:58:44
                                                                 what does being the SEC have to do with it?(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/23 09:50:57
                                                                      RE: what does being the SEC have to do with it?(nm) - slamduncan STL - 5/23 10:00:14
                                                                           i have. I dont see why it matters.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/23 10:32:00
                                                                                RE: i have. I dont see why it matters.(nm) - slamduncan STL - 5/23 11:00:05
                                                                                     I would agree maybe D1 football isn't for MU - SuperTone MU - 5/23 11:44:27
                                                                                          RE: I would agree maybe D1 football isn't for MU - slamduncan STL - 5/23 13:12:00
                                                  need the right coach AND the right AD.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/23 09:19:40
                                   yeah, definitely easier to win in the B10, ACC and PAC - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:50:10
                              what you say makes sense - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:46:11
                                   Yeah, the part about the NIL makes some sense. The only - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 08:57:29
                                        how much staff turnover has there been? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:23:34
                                             His original offensive staff is largely the same from year 1 - Tiger Strangiato MU - 5/23 09:25:33
                                                  correct, hence the questions about his ability to assemble - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:41:23
                                                       Exactly what we need inside info for. To question his - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 10:03:15
                                                            huh?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:04:18
     Well, that's disappointing if true. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 5/23 08:08:19
          He needs to go 7-5 first(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 09:07:28
          I just reposted another poster's post - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:27:24
          RE: Well, that's disappointing if true. - slamduncan STL - 5/23 08:18:09




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