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RE: It's a tough gig because we haven't really had the right

Posted on: May 23, 2022 at 09:20:56 CT
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It's a tough gig because the recruit base (or lack thereof) is better suited for other leagues and MU can't/won't raise funds at the same rate as most in the SEC. Hell, MU let itself go a decade plus as a big loser because its facilities were some of the worst in the Big 8. It's good MU is spending on football facilities but now they are being told to raise even more money or be left behind for NIL.

This isn't going well or will it end well for Mizzou. A small demo school in the midwest with way more in common with Illinois and Indiana than about 10 to 12 SEC schools it has to compete with.

And Pinkel was great for MU but he needed a lot of help like NUB and CU's runs coming to an end. And the SEC going through a period of underachievement. He didn't have to beat anybody running on all cylinders. Anytime he did play such a school, he largely got consumed in a route.
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Drink has one foot out the door, according to a PM poster - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 07:43:50
     this is like the guy who convinces himself his gf will leave - deputyfife MU - 5/24 11:53:52
     RE: Drink has one foot out the door, according to a PM poster - jhawkkiller MU - 5/23 18:04:30
          It's about NIL support, nothing else... and the claims are - zounami MU - 5/23 18:57:08
     You can't even link to the post? (nm) - mizzou john MU - 5/23 12:34:48
          it's from a pay message board, john - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 13:39:13
               I pay for PM, so yes, a link would work for me. - mizzou john MU - 5/23 13:53:51
                    well, I don’t pay for PM - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 14:16:53
                         And you didn't even post the screensahot! - mizzou john MU - 5/24 07:30:03
                              He posted the text verbatim. You're getting worked up over - zounami MU - 5/24 08:00:55
                                   odd flex, for sure(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/24 08:21:43
                              LOL - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/24 07:57:04
               Well, it's out in the twitterverse now... - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 13:42:57
                    We’ll that’s not good. nm - MATO MU - 5/23 14:56:38
          It's posted in the post above by OGT...kind of (nm) - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 12:41:26
     When he bolts, hopefully after some success, promote Hamdan - miketig MU - 5/23 11:53:25
          HELL NO - alwaysright MU - 5/23 12:02:59
     Maybe Drink thought we’d act like an SEC school since we’re - MATO MU - 5/23 11:27:39
     Nah but he is combative when running off players. I think - TigerFan92 STL - 5/23 10:50:26
          huh?... are you sure you replied to the right post? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 10:56:59
               Yes he ain’t leaving. He’s just an a-hole when he wants to - TigerFan92 STL - 5/23 13:46:49
     I suspect that's true... There has been no organized effort - zounami MU - 5/23 10:35:46
          not a conspiracy you don't latch on to, it seems - sfprman MU - 5/23 17:43:45
          Don't underestimate the impact of 2015. Numerous boosters, - Fourth and Long MU - 5/23 12:09:10
               Go back to phag.net (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 5/23 13:48:06
          I don't think MU is "inexplicably behind" - Genco98 MU - 5/23 11:28:24
               "Businesses" have nothing to do with it, other than being a - zounami MU - 5/23 11:30:57
          According to what and whom? - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 10:48:48
               Drink's recruiting has taken a hit as the "NIL" bidding wars - zounami MU - 5/23 11:03:37
                    He just had the highest ranked class ever at Mizzou and - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 11:41:21
                    Show us on the doll where NIL touched you (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:14:21
                         Now thats funny - STLTIGER MU - 5/23 16:16:32
                         what's the point of this low IQ reply? (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:15:04
                              to make fun of you obviously - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:16:54
                                   then at least try to be clever about it (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:18:16
                                        It was already too clever for you to get it so maybe I need - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:19:50
                                             "show us where on the doll...." yeah, so fvcking clever (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:21:15
                                                  you are a delicate type - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:22:35
                                                       you're doubling down on the low IQ ad hominems (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:28:52
                                                            I guess it will be a lonely few decades for you then - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:32:05
                                                                 weird reply (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:32:50
                                                                      So that's a no for you I guess. - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:33:28
                                                                           don't be mean to others on the spectrum. You - SabertoothTiger MU - 5/23 11:43:29
                                                                                see, that was a bit more clever (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:50:22
                    How has it taken a hit? The last complete class was 15th - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:10:56
                         BTW, this is why you shouldn't ask the same question twice.. - zounami MU - 5/23 11:16:11
                              BTW, both of my questions were asked prior to you - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:21:49
                                   It was the same fvcking question, asked twice. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:29:12
                                        It wasn't the only thing in the post. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:46:59
                         There's been a clear drop-off. Many have noticed it, and... - zounami MU - 5/23 11:14:44
                              bama is 38th. Saban has fallen off for sure (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:19:12
                                   check "average player rating"... Bama 4.0 stars, MU 2.2 - zounami MU - 5/23 11:24:45
                                        Those CC players will get a 3 star rating. - Jmill88 MU - 5/23 19:17:37
                                        LOL. It's 4 commits and 5 commits. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:27:12
                                             you haven't refuted anything I said (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:28:29
                                                  ...and I never claimed it was a large sample size (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:33:35
                                                       Sure, but you've implied it is large enough to draw - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:38:10
                                                            That depends on one's level of foresight. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:49:00
                                                                 I must have missed that chapter in my stats books. - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 11:50:49
                                                                      You mustn't be very good at investing, either. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:58:05
                                                                           ..being able to spot potential trends early on is a valuable - zounami MU - 5/23 11:59:15
                                                                                Am I to assume you are good at investing then? (nm) - lqf2b8 MU - 5/23 12:09:26
                                   LOL - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:22:53
                              Our current class has 4 commits. The rankings at this point - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:16:20
                                   you've proven in the past that you're extremely naive... - zounami MU - 5/23 11:17:46
          well, allegedly wasn't Sterk shown the door because - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:41:08
               It was a factor, and so far I'm less than impressed (to put - zounami MU - 5/23 10:55:19
                    why? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:58:09
                         If I were AD, I can assure you we'd have an NIL operation - zounami MU - 5/23 11:01:07
                              There is an NIL collective at MU - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:02:52
                                   You already asked this, and I already answered it... - zounami MU - 5/23 11:04:13
                                        Advancing Missouri Athletes - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:08:42
                                             I figured that's what you were talking about... - zounami MU - 5/23 11:13:53
                                                  Are you talking about the same class that Saban just - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 12:03:07
                                                  Our class of last year wasn't complete before the - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:18:56
                                                       Not "escalated"... escalatING... the arms race is - zounami MU - 5/23 11:20:49
                                                            I used your quote, you dummy. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:24:42
                                                                 and I'm explaining it to you (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:27:41
                                                                      It was a dumb point to make and I'm calling you on it. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 11:30:48
                                                                           all you're doing is proving that you don't understand it (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:31:28
               When he was fired, ADs were not allowed to be involved - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 10:50:15
                    perhaps I stated that poorly - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:53:32
                         Yeah, I still find that hard to believe. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 10:57:33
                         RE: perhaps I stated that poorly - Panthera MU - 5/23 10:57:32
                              He was an incompetent buffoon on many levels. (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 11:06:11
                              Oh, and to be clear on my end, I believe that may have - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 10:58:39
                                   I don’t know either - Panthera MU - 5/23 11:19:19
          I don’t think we know what’s being organized. It’s all - Fool on the Hill MU - 5/23 10:40:33
               I should add that if Drink expects unwavering support at... - zounami MU - 5/23 10:53:15
               RE: I don’t think we know what’s being organized. It’s all - slamduncan STL - 5/23 10:46:30
                    Not now, but I'm confident there will be federal legislation - zounami MU - 5/23 11:09:57
                    I agree.(nm) - Fool on the Hill MU - 5/23 10:47:34
     sounds like Saban nm - largetiger MU - 5/23 10:16:00
          huh?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:22:07
               Saban is demanding and hard to get along with although he - largetiger MU - 5/23 10:29:48
                    I don't think anyone said that about Drink - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:31:22
     What, he wants more than 45k fans at a home game? - zoomer 99 - 5/23 10:08:01
          bad startrs and bad finishes each year - sfprman MU - 5/23 20:52:42
          Mizzou has fair weather fans, on the whole, and the... - Deputy Dawg MU - 5/23 10:26:50
          True, but despite how so many here feel about most bowls, he - Fool on the Hill MU - 5/23 10:24:22
               Exactly Pinkel had tremendous bowls wins - Genco98 MU - 5/23 11:08:18
               in 2006 we had 50K at the first three home games - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:27:22
                    If you don't care about the bowl games what do - Genco98 MU - 5/23 11:10:51
          He should not have come here - Genco98 MU - 5/23 10:14:55
               It was a great move for him. He is now a SEC HC. - Erwin Fletcher STL - 5/23 10:27:13
                    you think he's gonna do well enough here to get a better - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:28:45
                         Yes I think so but it will take some time and patience(nm) - Erwin Fletcher STL - 5/23 18:54:05
                         Yes. I know a guy that works in the - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 10:30:01
                              did you chuckle when you posted that, Lt. J. Dangle?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:31:51
                                   Maybe a little Bill. Certainly wasn't enough for a guffaw - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 11:59:31
               Mizzou's fanbase isn't big/strong enough to survive - Eggs MU - 5/23 10:22:14
                    RE: Mizzou's fanbase isn't big/strong enough to survive - slamduncan STL - 5/23 10:23:57
     Sounds like a bunch of Odom boys having a circle jerk... - BandG MU - 5/23 10:02:29
          Why do you say the one school he would leave for is - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 10:09:38
               Well it used to be the one but that was before Harsin went.. - BandG MU - 5/23 10:29:40
                    And Auburn would go from Malzahn to a Malzahn - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 10:31:18
                         they have a much higher celling than Mizzou - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:35:08
                              Wait, so we are just naming schools that have a higher - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 12:09:49
                              RE: they have a much higher celling than Mizzou - slamduncan STL - 5/23 10:40:01
          I'm sorry this post hurt your feelings - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:08:28
               Didn't hurt my feelings at all...IDGAF who is the coach... - BandG MU - 5/23 10:33:10
               Thus endeth this reading of the gospel of FMB - redngray MU - 5/23 10:16:20
     Who is LB3?(nm) - Genco98 MU - 5/23 09:43:38
          A player who will likely be a free agent after this season - Fourth and Long MU - 5/23 10:00:45
               Fret about it, Nancy (nm) - Columbian Gold MU - 5/23 10:10:48
          RE: Who is LB3?(nm) - slamduncan STL - 5/23 09:44:25
     Reality, we just signed our highest ranked recruiting class - Fourth and Long MU - 5/23 09:35:07
     Trust the process. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/23 09:28:49
     IMO pulling Badie from the Army game hurt, we needed that - MU-TULSA MU - 5/23 09:17:02
          Agree - if you aren't trying to win your bowl game for your - Genco98 MU - 5/23 09:43:08
               they tried to win - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:46:32
               I believe we also successfully tried declining bowl games - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/23 09:45:01
                    drink declined a bowl his first year.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/23 09:49:53
               RE: Agree - if you aren't trying to win your bowl game for your - slamduncan STL - 5/23 09:44:58
                    Not following that one(nm) - Genco98 MU - 5/23 10:00:52
                         RE: Not following that one(nm) - slamduncan STL - 5/23 10:08:30
          Bowl games are irrelevant now. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/23 09:41:28
               Yeah - unfortunately that's what probably too many - Genco98 MU - 5/23 10:13:57
          that game meant nothing(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 5/23 09:29:28
               Maybe not to some,but to fans it meant a lot, - MU-TULSA MU - 5/23 09:37:26
                    That was either really deep or non-sensical. I can't - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 09:38:46
                         Messed up correcting it, nm - MU-TULSA MU - 5/23 10:31:23
          that win changes very little(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:22:48
               It ties Drink to Mizzou for another year - doughboy MU - 5/23 09:47:40
                    with much respect - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:49:39
               You might see that and most bowls for the exhibitions they - Fool on the Hill MU - 5/23 09:33:20
     Heard the same thing - TigerMook MU - 5/23 08:45:13
     I recall being obliterated because my source said - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 08:33:23
          People attacked your history of dumbas5ery - alwaysright MU - 5/23 09:38:29
               no, people couldn't handle the idea that Drink may not be - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:40:34
                    There are people like that but Dave isn’t just a messenger. - alwaysright MU - 5/23 09:45:48
          people see and believe what they want to - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:43:46
               Whether this is true or not, discussing it on an open forum - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 08:51:31
                    would you rather discuss over AOL instant messenger? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:53:56
                         Of course it's not your job and I didn't imply it was. - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 09:19:34
                              so does talking **** on coaches and players - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:24:22
                                   Correct. And you were pretty outspoken against it - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 09:26:21
                                        LOL- show me a link where I said - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:32:59
                                             Fair enough - kmawv8 MU - 5/23 09:59:03
                                        this.(nm) - SabertoothTiger MU - 5/23 09:30:14
                         hell yes. hit me up at chunky_lover_53(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/23 08:56:04
                              LOL(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:57:04
     Complete baloney. - Rabbit Test MU - 5/23 08:28:20
          did you see the jobs mentioned? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:31:51
               Anything is a bigger job - Rabbit Test MU - 5/23 09:51:10
                    that makes no sense - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:03:54
     RE: Drink has one foot out the door, according to a PM poster - slamduncan STL - 5/23 08:12:26
          Last paragraph is correct. Like I said before - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 08:37:27
          So once again it appears we need a system guy who - SuperTone MU - 5/23 08:21:11
               Pinkel's system wouldn't work in the NIL/ free-agency era... - zounami MU - 5/23 10:23:15
                    You kinda made my point. They dont blow up until jr or sr - SuperTone MU - 5/23 10:32:56
                         why would it be too late to transfer as a jr or sr.? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:51:31
                              You have to have that great year to attract offers - SuperTone MU - 5/23 11:43:11
                              exactly... I don't get ST's point either (nm) - zounami MU - 5/23 10:58:03
               Sure if you believe a post of another post from someone - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 08:33:11
                    Or you can have zero inside information and base anything - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 08:35:27
                         Or there is somewhere in the middle. You can actually - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 08:42:24
                              Jeremy Pruitt recruited well and was an insufferable a$$ - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 09:00:12
                              RE: Or there is somewhere in the middle. You can actually - slamduncan STL - 5/23 08:48:36
                                   Dude isn't winning a championship anywhere because - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 08:53:56
                                        RE: Dude isn't winning a championship anywhere because - slamduncan STL - 5/23 08:59:59
                                             It's a tough gig because we haven't really had the right - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 09:04:29
                                                  RE: It's a tough gig because we haven't really had the right - slamduncan STL - 5/23 09:20:56
                                                       Again, I hope NIL destroys college football(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 09:37:50
                                                            RE: Again, I hope NIL destroys college football(nm) - slamduncan STL - 5/23 09:43:33
                                                                 Not sure what DUFF of the SEC is. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 5/23 09:53:37
                                                                      RE: Not sure what DUFF of the SEC is. - slamduncan STL - 5/23 09:58:44
                                                                 what does being the SEC have to do with it?(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/23 09:50:57
                                                                      RE: what does being the SEC have to do with it?(nm) - slamduncan STL - 5/23 10:00:14
                                                                           i have. I dont see why it matters.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/23 10:32:00
                                                                                RE: i have. I dont see why it matters.(nm) - slamduncan STL - 5/23 11:00:05
                                                                                     I would agree maybe D1 football isn't for MU - SuperTone MU - 5/23 11:44:27
                                                                                          RE: I would agree maybe D1 football isn't for MU - slamduncan STL - 5/23 13:12:00
                                                  need the right coach AND the right AD.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 5/23 09:19:40
                                   yeah, definitely easier to win in the B10, ACC and PAC - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:50:10
                              what you say makes sense - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:46:11
                                   Yeah, the part about the NIL makes some sense. The only - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 08:57:29
                                        how much staff turnover has there been? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:23:34
                                             His original offensive staff is largely the same from year 1 - Tiger Strangiato MU - 5/23 09:25:33
                                                  correct, hence the questions about his ability to assemble - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 09:41:23
                                                       Exactly what we need inside info for. To question his - Lt. J. Dangle MU - 5/23 10:03:15
                                                            huh?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 10:04:18
     Well, that's disappointing if true. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 5/23 08:08:19
          He needs to go 7-5 first(nm) - Diamond Dave MU - 5/23 09:07:28
          I just reposted another poster's post - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 5/23 08:27:24
          RE: Well, that's disappointing if true. - slamduncan STL - 5/23 08:18:09




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