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That is because we are not in the middle of it

Posted on: October 27, 2021 at 23:02:09 CT

FIJItiger MU

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We have not yet started. I want us to start, step 1 is acquiring a good coach. It is going to take a very long time, and as I've written I'm now skeptical given the level of apathy and negligence that we will ever recover.

No coach hired to replace Kim was going to have MU rebuilt in 4 seasons. And Cuonzo can't do it, and we are making no progress in rebuilding it. Both can be true at the same time.

Edited by FIJItiger at 23:02:22 on 10/27/21

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Kim English listed - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 14:11:58

We are going to see how good a coach Kim is - tsutiger57 MU - 10/28 09:51:14

He'll be here in a couple years......... - HDTiger MU - 10/27 21:20:54

It would be a mess - alwaysright MU - 10/28 07:37:45

When MU plays a team he is the asst coach for. Nm - BandG MU - 10/28 02:01:17

RE: He'll be here in a couple years......... - THINKINGTIGER MU - 10/27 23:33:37

Nm - BandG MU - 10/28 01:59:27

Thank you. This favorite son thing is not - MNTIGER MU - 10/27 23:36:33

RE: Sure,ok,yea, he’s never - cal tiger MU - 10/27 19:40:53

I love me some KE...but let's not hire another unproven - tigertix MU - 10/27 18:48:22

Or that Stewart kid who has only coached a few years at some - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:32:19

I have stated before that he would currently be at the top - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 16:01:36

Just needs to prove he can handle a program on his own? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/28 07:04:33

Kim might be worse than Cuonzo - alwaysright MU - 10/27 19:23:04

A lot of coaches are. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 19:30:05

He is probably bottom five in the P5 right now. I don't - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 20:19:14

RE: He is probably bottom five in the P5 right now. I don't - THINKINGTIGER MU - 10/27 23:43:10

Half of all P5 teams make the tourney every year. Making - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/28 09:19:17

He’s not even bottom 5 in the SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 20:24:34

Haith won the tourney championship which the NCAA recognizes - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:11:58

Mediocrity Acceptance - A Worthy Goal to be Sure(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 20:34:06

This is the mindset that will keep Mizzou down - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 20:56:22

This is year FIVE and even you are predicting a season - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:21:03

Huh? Accept Mediocrity?(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:03:30

Wu-T a believes if we just give CM eight more years of - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:15:05

You would have fired Hamilton - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:19:26

Hèll yes I would have fired Hamilton, he did not make the - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:28:09

Would you trade programs with Florida State? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:44:05

If we had to wait nine years for our first tourney win, not - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:52:17

I haven’t ever called for a decade. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:55:58

We are already in year five and you have already said it - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:05:24

I brought Hamilton up once - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:08:48

When I asked for an example of a coach that turned it around - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:15:01

He’s not the only one. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:17:17

Feel free to list those other coaches who turned it around - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:26:51

Scott Drew did it at Baylor. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:33:45

Thus far, there is nothing impressive about what Cuonzo has - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:41:49

You were one of the few here that recognized - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:49:49

That is because we are not in the middle of it - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 23:02:09

Thats where we disagree. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 23:22:39

I know, wish you were right and - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 23:24:42

The term I use all the time is mediocre. It perfectly - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:48:18

I disagree. Much more frequently have we not - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:57:12

Kim was horrible. CM has ranged from decent to simply bad.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:05:02

Kim wasn't even a real coach. That doesn't count and - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 23:09:46

Holy shít! Seriously? Drew went to the elite eight in year - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:40:31

Is that your interpretation? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:48:54

And you seriously used Scott Drew as an example of a coach - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:03:19

He took over a dead program. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 23:19:40

Your right Scott Drew's eight year probation and CM's - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:37:54

Funny how you changed on Geist - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/28 09:41:30

LOL at Danny Nee -- *TERRIBLE* Coach(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:29:45

And the Nubs kept him around for 14 years. Is that what we - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:35:42

Who? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:34:39

Wait, you claim to follow Mizzou BB and have no idea who - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:42:17

Him? - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:38:24

Cuonzo's much more similar to former CU coach Ricardo Patton - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 21:41:06

I see Andy Kennedy as Cuonzo's kindred soul. - Sigma MU - 10/27 21:49:11

Best coach Mississippi has had. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:00:21

That is not a kind reference,Kennedy is kind of a simpleton(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:00:18

Very little difference but I would accept that reference as - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:44:49

Nee was an ok coach with little talent, kind of whiny - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 21:59:02

Nee was kind of whiny? That like saying lava is kind of hot(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:00:52

Tried typing annoying and ran out of subject line room (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:01:58

You guys are showing your age here - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:40:07

Which is probably why you think Miizzou BB history only goes - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:49:50

To be fair, anything before 2014 when MU was still - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 21:42:47

I’m not holding anyone to Norms standard - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:48:39

Actually Quin, MA and Haith all came close. The only coaches - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:11:01

Do you really believe those guys were close - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:15:43

Their peaks were as high as Norm's. Could they have - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:23:07

None sustained it. Thats what Norm did - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:27:00

They didn't sustain it because the longest any were here was - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:29:42

2 ran off before being fired - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:35:55

MA's system was never going to allow him to beat teams - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:46:33

We destroyed Memphis in the 2009 NCAA tourney - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:59:08

Yes, but Anderson was never going to draw top players to - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:08:28

3 of his 5 seasons at MU we had the Big 12 Newcomer of Yr - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 23:11:39

Nah - Mizzou is Racist. Social Media Said So(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:28:52

All 3 were better than Norm after 1995 - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:18:41

Have You Ever Even Seen Norm?(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:17:26

Norm and Danny Nee left at the same time - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 21:54:49

RE: Who? (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 21:38:22

The last time we hired an alum named Kim with zero P5 HC XP - zounami MU - 10/27 16:15:08

Couldn’t we hire one of those guys for a third of what we - XRob MU

- 10/27 15:21:17

No. You aren’t going to pay $1 million for a coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 15:24:11

Kim could just move back into Mizzou Arena - jlbomega MU - 10/27 18:40:39

You don’t think one of these up and comers would take the - XRob MU

- 10/27 15:50:12

Not for less than $2.5 million. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 15:53:50

I'm not expecting championships. Why would anybody at this - XRob MU

- 10/27 21:55:13

The answer is no. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:59:19

What was CM's salary ranked when we hired him? (nm) - zounami MU - 10/27 15:55:05

That’s not the discussion here - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 15:58:54

From some of CM's comments, he isn't exactly - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:10:44

Figured some of you would go there - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:16:52

MU won conf championships in 2009 and 2012, then gave - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 18:33:47

Maybe figure why CM made the comments in the 1st place (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:40:43

It’s not hard to understand what he said or the meaning - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:43:49

He said what he said, that he has his money. That's - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:45:41

It means he doesn't care about the money just the team!(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/27 16:53:35

Nicely done. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:51:08

Mizzou won a conference championship as recently as 2012... - zounami MU - 10/27 16:28:12

Is that good enough - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:42:42

By Those Standards - MU Hasn't Had... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 20:44:09

Was Haith building towards anything - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 20:59:14

Haith Wrecked MU Hoops - Martin is Worse(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:02:43

Martin might be building towards something - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:12:05

Haith averaged 25 wins per season. If he was not building - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:59:44

Otto Porter was available when Haith was hired - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:01:59

I'll Grant you That - You're Right... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:23:24

The only people thinking Cuonzo has underperformed - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:38:20

Wu - That's BS Man... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:54:45

Wow you think the Porters bilked Mizzou? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:04:44

Yes - The Porter's Bilked MU... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:12:44

Wow. Fantasy (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:18:08

Wow - Thanks for that Thought-Out Rebuttal... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:21:12

I’m not old enough for that. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:28:28

Sorry - I Am Calling BS for 3 Reasons... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:37:05

yep (nm) - zounami MU - 10/27 16:11:57

I'd say you missed the point of that rhetorical question... - zounami MU - 10/27 16:07:13

That’s exactly what hat Mizzou has to do. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:09:49

Some expect us to be a blue blood without a bl blood coach(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/27 16:06:38

Wutan as a fan for60 years I can you just nailed it(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/27 16:04:01

What was CM's salary ranked when Mizzou hired him? (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:03:28

He won't answer b/c he knows it destroys his narrative... - zounami MU - 10/27 16:11:45

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