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I'll Grant you That - You're Right...

Posted on: October 27, 2021 at 21:23:24 CT

WrightWing MU

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Haith was building towards nothing. It was always year-to-year. Worse - He didn't give one rip about character. Haith *sucked*

KA was brought in to "Gary Link" the team - clean house (and Haith's mess), so an established coach could come in and build. Kudos to Kim for being a True Son and taking one for the team, as it were.

Kim did his job (pretty damn well, I might add) - Martin has, thus far, fell *well* below the expectations placed upon him when hired.

KA was a conduit - a patsy - a transition. Honestly --- between weeding out the ne'er-do-wells *AND* maintaining a GPA in good standing with the NCAA --- he did a pretty damn good job.

Probably better than CM if you think about the directive given to each coach...

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Kim English listed - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 14:11:58

We are going to see how good a coach Kim is - tsutiger57 MU - 10/28 09:51:14

He'll be here in a couple years......... - HDTiger MU - 10/27 21:20:54

It would be a mess - alwaysright MU - 10/28 07:37:45

When MU plays a team he is the asst coach for. Nm - BandG MU - 10/28 02:01:17

RE: He'll be here in a couple years......... - THINKINGTIGER MU - 10/27 23:33:37

Nm - BandG MU - 10/28 01:59:27

Thank you. This favorite son thing is not - MNTIGER MU - 10/27 23:36:33

RE: Sure,ok,yea, he’s never - cal tiger MU - 10/27 19:40:53

I love me some KE...but let's not hire another unproven - tigertix MU - 10/27 18:48:22

Or that Stewart kid who has only coached a few years at some - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:32:19

I have stated before that he would currently be at the top - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 16:01:36

Just needs to prove he can handle a program on his own? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/28 07:04:33

Kim might be worse than Cuonzo - alwaysright MU - 10/27 19:23:04

A lot of coaches are. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 19:30:05

He is probably bottom five in the P5 right now. I don't - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 20:19:14

RE: He is probably bottom five in the P5 right now. I don't - THINKINGTIGER MU - 10/27 23:43:10

Half of all P5 teams make the tourney every year. Making - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/28 09:19:17

He’s not even bottom 5 in the SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 20:24:34

Haith won the tourney championship which the NCAA recognizes - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:11:58

Mediocrity Acceptance - A Worthy Goal to be Sure(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 20:34:06

This is the mindset that will keep Mizzou down - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 20:56:22

This is year FIVE and even you are predicting a season - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:21:03

Huh? Accept Mediocrity?(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:03:30

Wu-T a believes if we just give CM eight more years of - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:15:05

You would have fired Hamilton - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:19:26

Hèll yes I would have fired Hamilton, he did not make the - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:28:09

Would you trade programs with Florida State? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:44:05

If we had to wait nine years for our first tourney win, not - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:52:17

I haven’t ever called for a decade. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:55:58

We are already in year five and you have already said it - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:05:24

I brought Hamilton up once - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:08:48

When I asked for an example of a coach that turned it around - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:15:01

He’s not the only one. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:17:17

Feel free to list those other coaches who turned it around - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:26:51

Scott Drew did it at Baylor. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:33:45

Thus far, there is nothing impressive about what Cuonzo has - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:41:49

You were one of the few here that recognized - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:49:49

That is because we are not in the middle of it - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 23:02:09

Thats where we disagree. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 23:22:39

I know, wish you were right and - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 23:24:42

The term I use all the time is mediocre. It perfectly - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:48:18

I disagree. Much more frequently have we not - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:57:12

Kim was horrible. CM has ranged from decent to simply bad.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:05:02

Kim wasn't even a real coach. That doesn't count and - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 23:09:46

Holy shít! Seriously? Drew went to the elite eight in year - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:40:31

Is that your interpretation? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:48:54

And you seriously used Scott Drew as an example of a coach - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:03:19

He took over a dead program. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 23:19:40

Your right Scott Drew's eight year probation and CM's - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:37:54

Funny how you changed on Geist - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/28 09:41:30

LOL at Danny Nee -- *TERRIBLE* Coach(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:29:45

And the Nubs kept him around for 14 years. Is that what we - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:35:42

Who? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:34:39

Wait, you claim to follow Mizzou BB and have no idea who - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:42:17

Him? - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:38:24

Cuonzo's much more similar to former CU coach Ricardo Patton - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 21:41:06

I see Andy Kennedy as Cuonzo's kindred soul. - Sigma MU - 10/27 21:49:11

Best coach Mississippi has had. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:00:21

That is not a kind reference,Kennedy is kind of a simpleton(nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:00:18

Very little difference but I would accept that reference as - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:44:49

Nee was an ok coach with little talent, kind of whiny - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 21:59:02

Nee was kind of whiny? That like saying lava is kind of hot(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:00:52

Tried typing annoying and ran out of subject line room (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:01:58

You guys are showing your age here - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:40:07

Which is probably why you think Miizzou BB history only goes - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:49:50

To be fair, anything before 2014 when MU was still - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 21:42:47

I’m not holding anyone to Norms standard - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:48:39

Actually Quin, MA and Haith all came close. The only coaches - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:11:01

Do you really believe those guys were close - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:15:43

Their peaks were as high as Norm's. Could they have - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:23:07

None sustained it. Thats what Norm did - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:27:00

They didn't sustain it because the longest any were here was - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:29:42

2 ran off before being fired - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:35:55

MA's system was never going to allow him to beat teams - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:46:33

We destroyed Memphis in the 2009 NCAA tourney - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:59:08

Yes, but Anderson was never going to draw top players to - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:08:28

3 of his 5 seasons at MU we had the Big 12 Newcomer of Yr - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 23:11:39

Nah - Mizzou is Racist. Social Media Said So(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:28:52

All 3 were better than Norm after 1995 - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 22:18:41

Have You Ever Even Seen Norm?(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:17:26

Norm and Danny Nee left at the same time - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 21:54:49

RE: Who? (nm) - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 21:38:22

The last time we hired an alum named Kim with zero P5 HC XP - zounami MU - 10/27 16:15:08

Couldn’t we hire one of those guys for a third of what we - XRob MU

- 10/27 15:21:17

No. You aren’t going to pay $1 million for a coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 15:24:11

Kim could just move back into Mizzou Arena - jlbomega MU - 10/27 18:40:39

You don’t think one of these up and comers would take the - XRob MU

- 10/27 15:50:12

Not for less than $2.5 million. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 15:53:50

I'm not expecting championships. Why would anybody at this - XRob MU

- 10/27 21:55:13

The answer is no. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:59:19

What was CM's salary ranked when we hired him? (nm) - zounami MU - 10/27 15:55:05

That’s not the discussion here - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 15:58:54

From some of CM's comments, he isn't exactly - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:10:44

Figured some of you would go there - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:16:52

MU won conf championships in 2009 and 2012, then gave - FIJItiger MU

- 10/27 18:33:47

Maybe figure why CM made the comments in the 1st place (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:40:43

It’s not hard to understand what he said or the meaning - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:43:49

He said what he said, that he has his money. That's - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:45:41

It means he doesn't care about the money just the team!(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/27 16:53:35

Nicely done. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:51:08

Mizzou won a conference championship as recently as 2012... - zounami MU - 10/27 16:28:12

Is that good enough - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:42:42

By Those Standards - MU Hasn't Had... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 20:44:09

Was Haith building towards anything - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 20:59:14

Haith Wrecked MU Hoops - Martin is Worse(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:02:43

Martin might be building towards something - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:12:05

Haith averaged 25 wins per season. If he was not building - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:59:44

Otto Porter was available when Haith was hired - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:01:59

I'll Grant you That - You're Right... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:23:24

The only people thinking Cuonzo has underperformed - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:38:20

Wu - That's BS Man... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:54:45

Wow you think the Porters bilked Mizzou? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:04:44

Yes - The Porter's Bilked MU... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:12:44

Wow. Fantasy (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:18:08

Wow - Thanks for that Thought-Out Rebuttal... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:21:12

I’m not old enough for that. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:28:28

Sorry - I Am Calling BS for 3 Reasons... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:37:05

yep (nm) - zounami MU - 10/27 16:11:57

I'd say you missed the point of that rhetorical question... - zounami MU - 10/27 16:07:13

That’s exactly what hat Mizzou has to do. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:09:49

Some expect us to be a blue blood without a bl blood coach(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/27 16:06:38

Wutan as a fan for60 years I can you just nailed it(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/27 16:04:01

What was CM's salary ranked when Mizzou hired him? (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:03:28

He won't answer b/c he knows it destroys his narrative... - zounami MU - 10/27 16:11:45

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