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When I asked for an example of a coach that turned it around

Posted on: October 27, 2021 at 22:15:01 CT
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after multiple years you brought up Hamilton, not me. He was the only example you could come up with for a coach who finally made the transition after years of mediocrity.

You still think he is a good template for our program. You just asked me in this thread if I would want to trade prograns with FSU. You hold him out as a successful coach.
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Kim English listed - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 14:11:58
     We are going to see how good a coach Kim is - tsutiger57 MU - 10/28 09:51:14
     He'll be here in a couple years......... - HDTiger MU - 10/27 21:20:54
          It would be a mess - alwaysright MU - 10/28 07:37:45
          When MU plays a team he is the asst coach for. Nm - BandG MU - 10/28 02:01:17
          RE: He'll be here in a couple years......... - THINKINGTIGER MU - 10/27 23:33:37
               Nm - BandG MU - 10/28 01:59:27
               Thank you. This favorite son thing is not - MNTIGER MU - 10/27 23:36:33
     RE: Sure,ok,yea, he’s never - cal tiger MU - 10/27 19:40:53
     I love me some KE...but let's not hire another unproven - tigertix MU - 10/27 18:48:22
          Or that Stewart kid who has only coached a few years at some - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:32:19
     I have stated before that he would currently be at the top - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 16:01:36
          Just needs to prove he can handle a program on his own? - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 10/28 07:04:33
          Kim might be worse than Cuonzo - alwaysright MU - 10/27 19:23:04
               A lot of coaches are. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 19:30:05
                    He is probably bottom five in the P5 right now. I don't - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 20:19:14
                         RE: He is probably bottom five in the P5 right now. I don't - THINKINGTIGER MU - 10/27 23:43:10
                              Half of all P5 teams make the tourney every year. Making - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/28 09:19:17
                         He’s not even bottom 5 in the SEC - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 20:24:34
                              Haith won the tourney championship which the NCAA recognizes - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:11:58
                              Mediocrity Acceptance - A Worthy Goal to be Sure(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 20:34:06
                                   This is the mindset that will keep Mizzou down - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 20:56:22
                                        This is year FIVE and even you are predicting a season - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:21:03
                                        Huh? Accept Mediocrity?(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:03:30
                                             Wu-T a believes if we just give CM eight more years of - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:15:05
                                                  You would have fired Hamilton - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:19:26
                                                       Hèll yes I would have fired Hamilton, he did not make the - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:28:09
                                                            Would you trade programs with Florida State? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:44:05
                                                                 If we had to wait nine years for our first tourney win, not - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:52:17
                                                                      I haven’t ever called for a decade. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:55:58
                                                                           We are already in year five and you have already said it - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:05:24
                                                                                I brought Hamilton up once - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:08:48
                                                                                     When I asked for an example of a coach that turned it around - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:15:01
                                                                                          He’s not the only one. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:17:17
                                                                                               Feel free to list those other coaches who turned it around - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:26:51
                                                                                                    Scott Drew did it at Baylor. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:33:45
                                                                                                         Thus far, there is nothing impressive about what Cuonzo has - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 22:41:49
                                                                                                              You were one of the few here that recognized - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:49:49
                                                                                                                   That is because we are not in the middle of it - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 23:02:09
                                                                                                                        Thats where we disagree. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 23:22:39
                                                                                                                             I know, wish you were right and - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 23:24:42
                                                                                                              The term I use all the time is mediocre. It perfectly - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:48:18
                                                                                                                   I disagree. Much more frequently have we not - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 22:57:12
                                                                                                                        Kim was horrible. CM has ranged from decent to simply bad.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:05:02
                                                                                                                             Kim wasn't even a real coach. That doesn't count and - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 23:09:46
                                                                                                         Holy shít! Seriously? Drew went to the elite eight in year - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:40:31
                                                                                                              Is that your interpretation? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:48:54
                                                                                                                   And you seriously used Scott Drew as an example of a coach - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:03:19
                                                                                                                        He took over a dead program. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 23:19:40
                                                                                                                             Your right Scott Drew's eight year probation and CM's - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:37:54
                                                                                                                                  Funny how you changed on Geist - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/28 09:41:30
                                                            LOL at Danny Nee -- *TERRIBLE* Coach(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:29:45
                                                                 And the Nubs kept him around for 14 years. Is that what we - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:35:42
                                                                 Who? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:34:39
                                                                      Wait, you claim to follow Mizzou BB and have no idea who - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:42:17
                                                                      Him? - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:38:24
                                                                           Cuonzo's much more similar to former CU coach Ricardo Patton - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 21:41:06
                                                                                I see Andy Kennedy as Cuonzo's kindred soul. - Sigma MU - 10/27 21:49:11
                                                                                     Best coach Mississippi has had. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:00:21
                                                                                     That is not a kind reference,Kennedy is kind of a simpleton(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 22:00:18
                                                                                Very little difference but I would accept that reference as - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:44:49
                                                                                     Nee was an ok coach with little talent, kind of whiny - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 21:59:02
                                                                                          Nee was kind of whiny? That like saying lava is kind of hot(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:00:52
                                                                                               Tried typing annoying and ran out of subject line room (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 22:01:58
                                                                           You guys are showing your age here - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:40:07
                                                                                Which is probably why you think Miizzou BB history only goes - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:49:50
                                                                                To be fair, anything before 2014 when MU was still - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 21:42:47
                                                                                     I’m not holding anyone to Norms standard - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:48:39
                                                                                          Actually Quin, MA and Haith all came close. The only coaches - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:11:01
                                                                                               Do you really believe those guys were close - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:15:43
                                                                                                    Their peaks were as high as Norm's. Could they have - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:23:07
                                                                                                         None sustained it. Thats what Norm did - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:27:00
                                                                                                              They didn't sustain it because the longest any were here was - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:29:42
                                                                                                                   2 ran off before being fired - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:35:55
                                                                                                                        MA's system was never going to allow him to beat teams - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 22:46:33
                                                                                                                             We destroyed Memphis in the 2009 NCAA tourney - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 22:59:08
                                                                                                                                  Yes, but Anderson was never going to draw top players to - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 23:08:28
                                                                                                                                       3 of his 5 seasons at MU we had the Big 12 Newcomer of Yr - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 23:11:39
                                                                                                              Nah - Mizzou is Racist. Social Media Said So(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:28:52
                                                                                                    All 3 were better than Norm after 1995 - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 22:18:41
                                                                                                    Have You Ever Even Seen Norm?(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:17:26
                                                                                          Norm and Danny Nee left at the same time - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 21:54:49
                                                                      RE: Who? (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 21:38:22
          The last time we hired an alum named Kim with zero P5 HC XP - zounami MU - 10/27 16:15:08
     Couldn’t we hire one of those guys for a third of what we - XRob MU - 10/27 15:21:17
          No. You aren’t going to pay $1 million for a coach - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 15:24:11
               Kim could just move back into Mizzou Arena - jlbomega MU - 10/27 18:40:39
               You don’t think one of these up and comers would take the - XRob MU - 10/27 15:50:12
                    Not for less than $2.5 million. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 15:53:50
                         I'm not expecting championships. Why would anybody at this - XRob MU - 10/27 21:55:13
                              The answer is no. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:59:19
                         What was CM's salary ranked when we hired him? (nm) - zounami MU - 10/27 15:55:05
                              That’s not the discussion here - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 15:58:54
                                   From some of CM's comments, he isn't exactly - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:10:44
                                        Figured some of you would go there - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:16:52
                                             MU won conf championships in 2009 and 2012, then gave - FIJItiger MU - 10/27 18:33:47
                                             Maybe figure why CM made the comments in the 1st place (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:40:43
                                                  It’s not hard to understand what he said or the meaning - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:43:49
                                                       He said what he said, that he has his money. That's - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:45:41
                                                            It means he doesn't care about the money just the team!(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/27 16:53:35
                                                            Nicely done. (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:51:08
                                             Mizzou won a conference championship as recently as 2012... - zounami MU - 10/27 16:28:12
                                                  Is that good enough - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:42:42
                                                       By Those Standards - MU Hasn't Had... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 20:44:09
                                                            Was Haith building towards anything - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 20:59:14
                                                                 Haith Wrecked MU Hoops - Martin is Worse(nm) - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:02:43
                                                                      Martin might be building towards something - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:12:05
                                                                           Haith averaged 25 wins per season. If he was not building - DHighlander NWMSU - 10/27 21:59:44
                                                                                Otto Porter was available when Haith was hired - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:01:59
                                                                           I'll Grant you That - You're Right... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:23:24
                                                                                The only people thinking Cuonzo has underperformed - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 21:38:20
                                                                                     Wu - That's BS Man... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 21:54:45
                                                                                          Wow you think the Porters bilked Mizzou? - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:04:44
                                                                                               Yes - The Porter's Bilked MU... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:12:44
                                                                                                    Wow. Fantasy (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:18:08
                                                                                                         Wow - Thanks for that Thought-Out Rebuttal... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:21:12
                                                                                                              I’m not old enough for that. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 22:28:28
                                                                                                                   Sorry - I Am Calling BS for 3 Reasons... - WrightWing MU - 10/27 22:37:05
                                        yep (nm) - zounami MU - 10/27 16:11:57
                                   I'd say you missed the point of that rhetorical question... - zounami MU - 10/27 16:07:13
                                        That’s exactly what hat Mizzou has to do. - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/27 16:09:49
                                   Some expect us to be a blue blood without a bl blood coach(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/27 16:06:38
                                   Wutan as a fan for60 years I can you just nailed it(nm) - oldtgr MU - 10/27 16:04:01
                                   What was CM's salary ranked when Mizzou hired him? (nm) - Ohtiger MU - 10/27 16:03:28
                                        He won't answer b/c he knows it destroys his narrative... - zounami MU - 10/27 16:11:45




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