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Posted on: April 10, 2020 at 12:51:15 CT
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Now I confess to being a little confused that a member of what is considered the original Protestant church is not a Protestant.

I mean it sounds like you're "protesting" against what is in your view the Catholic Churches stand on justification and righteousness.

Sematics had a lot to do with the reformation in my view.
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Trump with a beautiful Easter message and a Pastor - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:30:03
     if trump really believes is it from love or fear of God? - miz_zou MU - 4/10 12:07:25
          I don't know anyone who believes in God based on fear of God - Spanky KU - 4/10 12:14:49
               Are the godless living in fear of a invisible enemy? - Savage KC - 4/10 12:25:00
                    Likely not.. they are merely living in ignorance(nm) - Spanky KU - 4/10 13:37:26
                    RE: Are the godless living in fear of an invisible enemy? - Savage KC - 4/10 12:30:23
               Absolutely(nm) - miz_zou MU - 4/10 12:17:15
                    an example, please? - Spanky KU - 4/10 12:24:47
                         Love it when you pretend to know scripture because you can - miz_zou MU - 4/10 12:32:29
                              No need to look up your attempt at depth - Spanky KU - 4/10 13:36:27
          Judging someone's heart is beyond our pay grade. - JeffB MU - 4/10 12:13:16
               You bet - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:15:26
          As you know, only God can judge the heart - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:09:44
     If there is one thing republigistians love - JG MU - 4/10 11:46:23
          what are libs hypocritical about? Can't wait to hear this(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 4/10 12:05:38
          Most deaths are in NYC. Caused by two dems. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/10 12:04:15
               Have you met SuxJohnson? He’s an angry, gay millennial. - Emoji Man MSU - 4/10 12:27:00
               There is some real stupid here but you are in the Top 5. - TexJohnson MU - 4/10 12:19:28
                    I'm sorry the truth offends you. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/10 13:02:53
          and death of the marginalized(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 4/10 11:57:50
          👽✈️🚶🏻‍♂️🌋☠️👻 - Emoji Man MSU - 4/10 11:51:59
               You know this tale revolves around a volcano, right? (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/10 11:56:31
                    Oh shlt. I’m out of practice. My sincerest apologies to the - Emoji Man MSU - 4/10 12:00:17
                         L. Ron absolves you of your sins (nm) - mu7176grad MU - 4/10 12:04:12
     Don is such an example of a Godly man. - TexJohnson MU - 4/10 11:37:09
          King David killed a man and committed adultry but was God's - TigerFan92 MU - 4/10 12:02:57
               Don't leave out Moses and Paul(Saul of Tarshish), murderers - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/10 12:21:04
                    Saul was ruthless in his persecution of the followers of - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:27:11
               you know that’s all bull****, don’t you? (nm) - pickle MU - 4/10 12:16:05
          And yet millennials think the muzz are really nice, - hokie VT - 4/10 11:53:41
               IKR. They’d throw my little gay buddy, Sux, off a building. - Emoji Man MSU - 4/10 12:03:01
               Some of the most kind and loving and devout I've ever know - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 11:57:21
                    Have you ever been at any kind of gathering with them? Can - Emoji Man MSU - 4/10 12:06:41
                         Sure I have - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 12:18:27
                              I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/10 13:05:25
                              KKK is not a sect of Christianity. - MizzouTigerz MU - 4/10 12:58:37
                              Perfect. Thank you. - Emoji Man MSU - 4/10 12:23:16
               your identity politics are hogwash (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/10 11:57:18
                    that’s collectivism and ignorance for you (nm) - pickle MU - 4/10 11:59:02
                         he and rask are so similar it's fascinating - ashtray UF - 4/10 12:01:39
                              RE: he and rask are so similar it's fascinating - pickle MU - 4/10 12:05:58
          King David committed adultery and murder, yet Our Lord - JeffB MU - 4/10 11:48:55
               That was the Jew's God who did that - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 11:55:32
                    The One True God is the same God. He called the Jews - JeffB MU - 4/10 11:58:10
                         RE: The One True God is the same God. He called the Jews - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 12:03:35
                         spoiler - pickle MU - 4/10 11:59:27
                              A priest once related how he would occasionally ride with - JeffB MU - 4/10 12:07:12
                                   that's dumb (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 13:10:03
                                   that’s pretty stupid - pickle MU - 4/10 12:14:53
                              So sayeth pickle the all-knowing (nm) - redngray MU - 4/10 12:03:47
                                   feel free to prove there is (nm) - pickle MU - 4/10 12:15:13
                                        RE: feel free to prove there is (nm) - redngray MU - 4/10 13:27:57
               your lord, you mean (nm) - pickle MU - 4/10 11:53:49
                    He's your Lord as well, whether you reject Him or not. He - JeffB MU - 4/10 11:59:34
                         nope. that’s not how it works, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 4/10 12:14:01
                              Truth is not contingent upon your acceptance or approval. (nm) - JeffB MU - 4/10 12:15:00
                                   you are confusing faith for truth, Jeff - pickle MU - 4/10 12:17:49
                                        Look in the mirror. (nm) - JeffB MU - 4/10 12:26:18
                                             why? (nm) - pickle MU - 4/10 12:32:13
                                                  You are confusing your beliefs over against the truth. - JeffB MU - 4/10 12:49:56
                                                       not at all, Jeff (nm) - pickle MU - 4/10 12:51:47
                         wrong Lord - ashtray UF - 4/10 12:05:01
               As the old saying goes, I am not a Christian because I am - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:50:02
                    I can identify with Churchill who replied to a woman who - JeffB MU - 4/10 11:52:35
                         Churchill was a funny dude(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:53:24
          If Godly men embrace Venal Sins, then YEAH !!(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 11:46:49
               There is no such thing as venal sin - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:49:13
                    My bad - I was wrong(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 12:12:56
                         Happens to me several times a day(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:23:29
                    Oh gosh, so your obfuscation of the Judaic Tradition is - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 12:00:10
                         Judism is a WORKS based religion - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/10 12:08:56
                         There is simply no Scripture evidence of that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:03:19
                              Torah is the Bible friend - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 12:07:13
                                   What about Jesus was devout? He taught 2 thing were - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/10 12:14:05
                                        That is one interpretation - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 12:26:56
                                             That is simply not true rask - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:30:34
                                   The Torah has no record of venial vs. mortal sins - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:08:10
                    Mortal and Venial Sin? - by Tim Staples... - JeffB MU - 4/10 11:51:17
                         I have and reject the premise based on the Word of God - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:56:11
                              What about these Scripture passages?: - JeffB MU - 4/10 12:10:51
                                   I can sum in up in this passage - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:14:09
                                        Luther would be proud. The emphesis, taking a passage - Nohawks KC - 4/10 12:36:40
                                             Most don't draw such distinctions between sins - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:40:06
                                                  OK, thats fair I guess. I always like to draw out - Nohawks KC - 4/10 12:42:49
                                                       Or as my father used to say all the time - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:44:43
                         show me one by Jesus, or Paul, or Peter(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/10 11:53:28
                         It is a Catholic concept - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:52:27
                              To say anything is a "Catholic Concept" is to say - Nohawks KC - 4/10 12:40:18
                                   I agree Protestant stuff is too often man made - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:43:12
                                        We've had this discussion and its all good - Nohawks KC - 4/10 12:51:15
                                             Lutherans don't consider themselves protestants - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:53:09
                                                  Obviously you're not a Missouri Synod Luthern then - Nohawks KC - 4/10 12:57:52
                                                       I actually am - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 13:02:32
                              All Christian religions are offshoots of Catholicism. Even - Emoji Man MSU - 4/10 11:55:21
                              fwiw, Our Lord founded the Catholic Church. It is His Church - JeffB MU - 4/10 11:55:16
                                   And over time, they have allowed tradition to be on par - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:59:29
                                        RE: And over time, they have allowed tradition to b - Nohawks KC - 4/10 12:46:37
                                             I disagree - but it's actually not acceptance - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:51:05
                                                  Of course I believe in that - Nohawks KC - 4/10 12:54:36
                                                       Faith without works is indeed dead - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:59:38
                              Did you read Tim Staples discussion of it using biblical - JeffB MU - 4/10 11:53:20
                                   one sin is worse than another only in the eyes of man - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/10 12:01:17
                                        In my reading of Scripture this is indeed the truth - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:04:36
          This^^(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 4/10 11:45:36
          This is the future of our country. Start learning Mandarin. - Emoji Man MSU - 4/10 11:41:42
               Better that than the mess you boomers have led us into. - TexJohnson MU - 4/10 11:45:53
                    You make it sound like boomer has a bad connotation, like - tigerNkc MU - 4/10 11:53:30
                    by all means, compare away (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 11:52:36
                    what exactly do you want me to compare?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/10 11:49:04
                    I dunno, Sux. In many Muslim countries they’d be throwing - Emoji Man MSU - 4/10 11:48:34
                    Who is a boomer? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:47:07
          So what is an example of a Godly man? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:38:37
               God uses sinners. My pastor would say David was sinner - TexJohnson MU - 4/10 11:44:03
                    Jesus had sin - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 11:49:09
                         he was also fully God and sin and God can't be in the same - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/10 11:51:00
                              RE: he was also fully God and sin and God can't be in the same - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 12:28:52
                              Jesus lived a perfect life yet took the sins of the world - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:53:01
                                   Why ? - raskolnikov MU - 4/10 12:34:09
                                        The Scapegoat was the forerunner example of the Christ - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:36:02
                                   but I can now (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 12:23:50
                                        How so?(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:24:18
                                             I can pay the price. I can pay eternally. besides, - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 12:25:42
                                                  Scripture says the wages of sin is death - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:33:24
                                                       i "will suffer the consequences" - that's what I should have - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 13:00:12
                                                            OK 90 - that is indeed your choice - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 13:01:32
                    David was an a**hole - that's for sure - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/10 11:46:27
                         there are quite a number of TB "davids" (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 11:47:44
                    Sorry bro, but it’s Adam & Eve. Not Adam & Steve. - Emoji Man MSU - 4/10 11:46:14
                         No one could be as much a homophobe as you and not be gay - TexJohnson MU - 4/10 11:47:41
                    Then perhaps Trump is such a man - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:46:03
                    LOL. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/10 11:44:57
     While rejecting women and children refugees - Th8tnTiger MU - 4/10 11:34:38
          huh...I would have sworn this is rags(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/10 12:15:23
               it - Ferg STL - 4/10 12:19:52
               nope - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/10 12:18:15
          He seems to like women and children. Sorry fer yer TDS(nm) - TigerFan92 MU - 4/10 12:03:50
          I prefer MulletGeorge - Ferg STL - 4/10 11:46:35
          oh no, not women and children refugees. A bridge too far(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/10 11:44:13
          Paul was a Roman, he got citizenship legally(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/10 11:42:32
          The state isn't a person, fyi. On the political aspect of - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 11:37:28
          Why would Jesus approve of illegal activity or activity that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:36:52
               RE: Why would Jesus approve of illegal activity or activity that - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/10 11:46:05
                    notice something strange here... - tigerNkc MU - 4/10 11:56:27
                         Yes! I Notice - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/10 12:02:09
               lol, i'm pretty sure Jesus would be an open borders - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 11:38:57
                    Please explain how border enforcement is unjust. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/10 11:47:48
                         faulty and illogical analogy (nm) - pickle MU - 4/10 12:00:05
                         terrible analogy - ashtray UF - 4/10 11:54:50
                              And secure borders protect our country. Apt analogy for - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/10 12:03:15
                                   that’s nowhere in the constitution - pickle MU - 4/10 12:39:18
                                   now you're doubling down on being incorrect - ashtray UF - 4/10 12:10:21
                         i didn't claim it was "unjust", I claimed I felt jesus - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 11:49:25
                    Not really - MIZ45 MU - 4/10 11:47:27
                    Jesus was down with legal immigration. - Emoji Man MSU - 4/10 11:44:46
                    His point was that just laws are to be followed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:40:13
                         all laws? so if it is lawful to beat women or whatever, jesu - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 11:46:51
                              I said all just laws - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:51:55
                                   so it's your claim that jesus would find border control - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 11:54:26
                                        Roman citizenship was a huge deal at the time of Christ - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 12:02:17
                                             you mean with your interpretation of the Bible - ashtray UF - 4/10 12:08:34
                                                  yup (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/10 12:24:27
                         when did he say immigration laws are just? (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/10 11:41:10
                              He did not ever say that - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/10 11:44:53




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