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RE: The mistake: Its a moot point now that Barrio 18 is gone

Posted on: April 23, 2025 at 17:12:43 CT
BH O'bonga MU
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"If the changed circumstances in El Salvador with respect to Barrio 18 are such that there is no longer a basis for finding a “credible fear of persecution” at the hands of that gang, that issue can be heard and resolved by an Immigration Judge through a telephone conference without Abrego-Garcia’s consent to proceed in that fashion.

So there is a simple solution to fixing the WOR problem that does not require Abrego Garcia being returned to the United States. These proceedings are through the Immigration Court that is part of the Executive Branch, and over which the Article III district courts have been divested of jurisdiction by the Congress. Judge Xinis has no authority to interfere in this process if DOJ chooses to revisit the WOR benefit in this fashion. Abrego Garcia would have a right to appeal the outcome to the Board of Immigration Appeals and then to the Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. Both could be done on his behalf without his presence in the United States."
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The case of notorious MS-13 gangster Garcia detailed so even - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:27:47
     Given how many expenables and collateral damages that.... - JayRoy KC - 4/23 16:49:53
          RE: Given how many expenables and collateral damages that.... - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:25:42
     No mention that the alleged gang affiliation comes from - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:11:05
          The mistake was in claiming he was being deported because - JeffB MU - 4/23 16:45:19
               RE: The mistake: Its a moot point now that Barrio 18 is gone - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 17:12:43
                    Exactly. Thanks for posting this article. It has a lot of - JeffB MU - 4/24 10:58:29
                    RE: The mistake: Its a moot point now that Barrio 18 is gone - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:27:54
          The MS-13 gang affiliation has already been determined and - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 16:37:34
               A claim by a criminal cop. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:39:06
                    He was accused of having sex with a hooker & telling her - JeffB MU - 4/23 16:56:33
                         There was no witnesses gang activity. It was an alleged - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 17:59:28
                              There were multiple police witnesses from their gang task - JeffB MU - 4/24 11:03:21
                    This is a red herring, an attempt to distract from the facts - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 16:46:12
          Show us your cards (proof)......or shut up....nm - tigertix MU - 4/23 16:23:10
               Easy… - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:38:21
                    RE: Easy… - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:30:01
                    RE: Easy…: You mean, easy to provide bogus sources. - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 17:15:25
     Funny how the same people crying about the deportation - bcoop199 KC - 4/23 15:22:25
          they don't GAF, bro (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:41:52
               Correction.. you DGAF about the law(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:14:32
                    RE: Correction.. you DGAF about the law(nm) - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:31:28
               Trust me, I know that...once one narrative gets shot down - bcoop199 KC - 4/23 15:57:58
          Such is the nature of TDS inspired selective outrage - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/23 15:27:55
     He is a champion poster child for the left - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/23 15:11:19
     Most MAGAs seem to miss what bothers some people about this - sks MU - 4/23 15:10:50
          RE: Most MAGAs seem to miss what bothers some people about this - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:44:06
          You used to whine about due process. When it was shown that - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 16:41:19
               RE: You used to whine about due process. When it was shown that - sks MU - 4/23 19:22:02
                    Then your judge friends are poor lawyers. They just be ALJs - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 19:50:04
          It is apparently a simple matter to resolve in accordance - JeffB MU - 4/23 16:22:56
               Point is, the district court has no role to play. They lack - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 17:20:28
          If in fact it is deemed the Enemies Act is valid then they a - Logan STL - 4/23 15:41:41
               RE: If in fact it is deemed the Enemies Act is valid then they a - sks MU - 4/23 15:52:16
                    More to the point those courts lacked jurisdiction and never - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 16:44:10
     Almost no one is dancing on the head of a pin - *M* KC - 4/23 14:36:41
          RE: Almost no one is dancing on the head of a pin - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:50:50
          What was the clerical/administration error? - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 4/23 15:12:27
               They lumped him in with the Tren de Aragua gang under the - JeffB MU - 4/23 16:41:16
               there wasn't one (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:38:23
               That DOJ attorney was fired for that incorrect statement (nm) - Spanky KU - 4/23 15:21:51
                    Link to deposition - haeffb MU - 4/23 16:53:46
                    Sorry, it was Robert L. Cerna of ICE, not CBP - haeffb MU - 4/23 16:46:25
                    Fired for an honest statement.-(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:21:20
                    No, the statement was in a deposition by a CBP official (nm) - haeffb MU - 4/23 15:24:11
          They know crap about the 5th Amendment then - Spanky KU - 4/23 14:43:48
               it describes more than rights in criminal court proceedings(nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/23 15:06:30
                    Not as used by the cretins crying about García’s 5th - Spanky KU - 4/23 15:10:08
                         idk the details of gacia's case - SwampTiger MU - 4/23 15:19:41
                              RE: idk the details of gacia's case - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:55:10
                         Is he imprisoned? (nm) - haeffb MU - 4/23 15:14:08
                              Not in the US - Spanky KU - 4/23 15:20:13
                                   If the government sends you to a Mexican prison - haeffb MU - 4/23 15:23:42
                                        RE: If the government sends you to a Mexican prison - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:56:26
                                        He is from El Salvador. He was sent home(nm) - Spanky KU - 4/23 21:58:49
                                        personally, I don't care a whit what happened to him. He - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:40:56
                                             I care that the Government follow the law. - haeffb MU - 4/23 16:57:49
                                                  no you don't. you care about gvmt following the law in thi - 90Tiger STL - 4/24 08:23:14
                                                  RE: I care that the Government follow the law. - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/24 00:07:15
                                                  Now that is funny(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/23 19:30:38
                                             He had a federal work permit which means he was here legally - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:13:19
                              Perhaps in his country of origin. Certainly not in US(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/23 15:16:21
               Illegal aliens don't have the same 5th Amdt rights as a - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:57:15
                    What if the government is seeking - haeffb MU - 4/23 15:08:20
                         RE: What if the government: Didn't happen and not likely to. - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 16:34:03
                              Disagree, and I hope you and yours don’t get caught - haeffb MU - 4/23 17:04:39
                                   Your disagreement doesn't matter and is as relevant as Judge - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 17:56:56
                                        Your opinion is even less relevant. - haeffb MU - 4/23 18:01:15
                                             Mine is an educated one. Yours isn't - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 19:50:45
                                                  Let’s pretend that’s true. - haeffb MU - 4/23 20:41:57
                    The 5th Amendment “due process” is for cases where a person - Spanky KU - 4/23 15:06:49
                    Correct. Only libtards are incapable of understanding.(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/23 15:06:34
               DUE PROCESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:44:16
                    Question for you - *M* KC - 4/23 14:50:31
                         yeah, i've changed. nobody likes libertarians and it's - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:39:54
                              RE: yeah, i've changed. nobody likes libertarians and it's - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/24 00:12:08
                              Pathetic (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:41:42
          yes, i recall all of the furor over the due process for J6 - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:43:30
               RE: yes, i recall all of the furor over the due process for J6 - *M* KC - 4/23 14:45:30
                    held w/o bail, no speedy trials, nobody GAF, you never - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:42:40
                    Apparently you don't either. nm - MU Diaspora MU - 4/23 15:04:45
          No prog is doing it for the 5th Amdt. Hatred of Trump is the - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:38:57
               Riiiiiight - *M* KC - 4/23 14:42:27
                    RE: Riiiiiight - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:43:41
                         RE: Riiiiiight - *M* KC - 4/23 14:46:06
          nah, they are doing it for "not trump". garcia is a terribl - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:38:05
               RE: nah, they are doing it for "not trump". garcia is a terribl - *M* KC - 4/23 14:39:11
                    RE: nah, they are doing it for "not trump". garcia is a terribl - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/24 00:14:24
                    nah, he's a terrible example and had the process due - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:41:37
                         RE: nah, he's a great example and the only process - *M* KC - 4/23 14:44:04
                              RE: nah, he's a great example and the only process - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/24 00:15:55
                              One might even note that MS-13 wasn’t - haeffb MU - 4/23 14:52:16
                                   is the AEA what was used as the justification for him? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:43:43
                                        My understanding is he was on the first flight - haeffb MU - 4/23 16:52:09
                                   Careful. MAGA doesn’t like - *M* KC - 4/23 14:53:34
     There is a chasm between Can understand and WILL understand - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/23 14:34:55
          If a prog accepts facts, he can not maintain his delusional - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:36:42
     Fascinating how much passion this guy generates from people - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:29:03
          Fascinating how much passion this guy generates - *M* KC - 4/23 14:34:02
               RE: Fascinating how much passion this guy generates - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:38:24
                    RE: Fascinating how much passion this guy generates - *M* KC - 4/23 14:39:46
                         RE: Fascinating how much passion this guy generates - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:43:47
                              RE: Fascinating how much passion this guy generates - *M* KC - 4/23 14:46:39
               is that the new talking point(nm) - tman MU - 4/23 14:35:51
                    Yes(nm) - Wildcat KSU - 4/23 14:44:27
                    I Have no idea - *M* KC - 4/23 14:38:14
                         lol, no they haven't - it's like watching revelations happen - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:39:14
                              The never trump crowd is pretty good at observing - *M* KC - 4/23 14:40:54
                                   hardly, or he wouldn't be potus again, you stupid fvck (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:47:46
               RE: Fascinating: Note the due process Garcia received. Many - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:35:35
          RE: Fascinating how much passion this guy generates from people - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:32:29




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