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Illegal aliens don't have the same 5th Amdt rights as a

Posted on: April 23, 2025 at 14:57:15 CT
BH O'bonga MU
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criminal defendant.

"This is underpinned by a basic judicial principle that is not being given enough consideration by those yammering back and forth over this subject — illegal aliens with no right to remain in the United States are not entitled to the same
”due process” rights as citizens EXCEPT in circumstances where they are charged with a crime and the government is seeking to imprison them as punishment for that crime."
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The case of notorious MS-13 gangster Garcia detailed so even - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:27:47
     Given how many expenables and collateral damages that.... - JayRoy KC - 4/23 16:49:53
          RE: Given how many expenables and collateral damages that.... - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:25:42
     No mention that the alleged gang affiliation comes from - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:11:05
          The mistake was in claiming he was being deported because - JeffB MU - 4/23 16:45:19
               RE: The mistake: Its a moot point now that Barrio 18 is gone - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 17:12:43
                    Exactly. Thanks for posting this article. It has a lot of - JeffB MU - 4/24 10:58:29
                    RE: The mistake: Its a moot point now that Barrio 18 is gone - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:27:54
          The MS-13 gang affiliation has already been determined and - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 16:37:34
               A claim by a criminal cop. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:39:06
                    He was accused of having sex with a hooker & telling her - JeffB MU - 4/23 16:56:33
                         There was no witnesses gang activity. It was an alleged - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 17:59:28
                              There were multiple police witnesses from their gang task - JeffB MU - 4/24 11:03:21
                    This is a red herring, an attempt to distract from the facts - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 16:46:12
          Show us your cards (proof)......or shut up....nm - tigertix MU - 4/23 16:23:10
               Easy… - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:38:21
                    RE: Easy… - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:30:01
                    RE: Easy…: You mean, easy to provide bogus sources. - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 17:15:25
     Funny how the same people crying about the deportation - bcoop199 KC - 4/23 15:22:25
          they don't GAF, bro (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:41:52
               Correction.. you DGAF about the law(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:14:32
                    RE: Correction.. you DGAF about the law(nm) - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:31:28
               Trust me, I know that...once one narrative gets shot down - bcoop199 KC - 4/23 15:57:58
          Such is the nature of TDS inspired selective outrage - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/23 15:27:55
     He is a champion poster child for the left - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/23 15:11:19
     Most MAGAs seem to miss what bothers some people about this - sks MU - 4/23 15:10:50
          RE: Most MAGAs seem to miss what bothers some people about this - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:44:06
          You used to whine about due process. When it was shown that - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 16:41:19
               RE: You used to whine about due process. When it was shown that - sks MU - 4/23 19:22:02
                    Then your judge friends are poor lawyers. They just be ALJs - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 19:50:04
          It is apparently a simple matter to resolve in accordance - JeffB MU - 4/23 16:22:56
               Point is, the district court has no role to play. They lack - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 17:20:28
          If in fact it is deemed the Enemies Act is valid then they a - Logan STL - 4/23 15:41:41
               RE: If in fact it is deemed the Enemies Act is valid then they a - sks MU - 4/23 15:52:16
                    More to the point those courts lacked jurisdiction and never - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 16:44:10
     Almost no one is dancing on the head of a pin - *M* KC - 4/23 14:36:41
          RE: Almost no one is dancing on the head of a pin - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:50:50
          What was the clerical/administration error? - KCT-BoneTiger MU - 4/23 15:12:27
               They lumped him in with the Tren de Aragua gang under the - JeffB MU - 4/23 16:41:16
               there wasn't one (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:38:23
               That DOJ attorney was fired for that incorrect statement (nm) - Spanky KU - 4/23 15:21:51
                    Link to deposition - haeffb MU - 4/23 16:53:46
                    Sorry, it was Robert L. Cerna of ICE, not CBP - haeffb MU - 4/23 16:46:25
                    Fired for an honest statement.-(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:21:20
                    No, the statement was in a deposition by a CBP official (nm) - haeffb MU - 4/23 15:24:11
          They know crap about the 5th Amendment then - Spanky KU - 4/23 14:43:48
               it describes more than rights in criminal court proceedings(nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/23 15:06:30
                    Not as used by the cretins crying about García’s 5th - Spanky KU - 4/23 15:10:08
                         idk the details of gacia's case - SwampTiger MU - 4/23 15:19:41
                              RE: idk the details of gacia's case - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:55:10
                         Is he imprisoned? (nm) - haeffb MU - 4/23 15:14:08
                              Not in the US - Spanky KU - 4/23 15:20:13
                                   If the government sends you to a Mexican prison - haeffb MU - 4/23 15:23:42
                                        RE: If the government sends you to a Mexican prison - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/23 23:56:26
                                        He is from El Salvador. He was sent home(nm) - Spanky KU - 4/23 21:58:49
                                        personally, I don't care a whit what happened to him. He - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:40:56
                                             I care that the Government follow the law. - haeffb MU - 4/23 16:57:49
                                                  no you don't. you care about gvmt following the law in thi - 90Tiger STL - 4/24 08:23:14
                                                  RE: I care that the Government follow the law. - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/24 00:07:15
                                                  Now that is funny(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/23 19:30:38
                                             He had a federal work permit which means he was here legally - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:13:19
                              Perhaps in his country of origin. Certainly not in US(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/23 15:16:21
               Illegal aliens don't have the same 5th Amdt rights as a - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:57:15
                    What if the government is seeking - haeffb MU - 4/23 15:08:20
                         RE: What if the government: Didn't happen and not likely to. - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 16:34:03
                              Disagree, and I hope you and yours don’t get caught - haeffb MU - 4/23 17:04:39
                                   Your disagreement doesn't matter and is as relevant as Judge - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 17:56:56
                                        Your opinion is even less relevant. - haeffb MU - 4/23 18:01:15
                                             Mine is an educated one. Yours isn't - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 19:50:45
                                                  Let’s pretend that’s true. - haeffb MU - 4/23 20:41:57
                    The 5th Amendment “due process” is for cases where a person - Spanky KU - 4/23 15:06:49
                    Correct. Only libtards are incapable of understanding.(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/23 15:06:34
               DUE PROCESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:44:16
                    Question for you - *M* KC - 4/23 14:50:31
                         yeah, i've changed. nobody likes libertarians and it's - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:39:54
                              RE: yeah, i've changed. nobody likes libertarians and it's - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/24 00:12:08
                              Pathetic (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/23 16:41:42
          yes, i recall all of the furor over the due process for J6 - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:43:30
               RE: yes, i recall all of the furor over the due process for J6 - *M* KC - 4/23 14:45:30
                    held w/o bail, no speedy trials, nobody GAF, you never - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:42:40
                    Apparently you don't either. nm - MU Diaspora MU - 4/23 15:04:45
          No prog is doing it for the 5th Amdt. Hatred of Trump is the - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:38:57
               Riiiiiight - *M* KC - 4/23 14:42:27
                    RE: Riiiiiight - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:43:41
                         RE: Riiiiiight - *M* KC - 4/23 14:46:06
          nah, they are doing it for "not trump". garcia is a terribl - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:38:05
               RE: nah, they are doing it for "not trump". garcia is a terribl - *M* KC - 4/23 14:39:11
                    RE: nah, they are doing it for "not trump". garcia is a terribl - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/24 00:14:24
                    nah, he's a terrible example and had the process due - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:41:37
                         RE: nah, he's a great example and the only process - *M* KC - 4/23 14:44:04
                              RE: nah, he's a great example and the only process - THEGROVE68 MU - 4/24 00:15:55
                              One might even note that MS-13 wasn’t - haeffb MU - 4/23 14:52:16
                                   is the AEA what was used as the justification for him? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:43:43
                                        My understanding is he was on the first flight - haeffb MU - 4/23 16:52:09
                                   Careful. MAGA doesn’t like - *M* KC - 4/23 14:53:34
     There is a chasm between Can understand and WILL understand - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/23 14:34:55
          If a prog accepts facts, he can not maintain his delusional - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:36:42
     Fascinating how much passion this guy generates from people - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:29:03
          Fascinating how much passion this guy generates - *M* KC - 4/23 14:34:02
               RE: Fascinating how much passion this guy generates - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:38:24
                    RE: Fascinating how much passion this guy generates - *M* KC - 4/23 14:39:46
                         RE: Fascinating how much passion this guy generates - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:43:47
                              RE: Fascinating how much passion this guy generates - *M* KC - 4/23 14:46:39
               is that the new talking point(nm) - tman MU - 4/23 14:35:51
                    Yes(nm) - Wildcat KSU - 4/23 14:44:27
                    I Have no idea - *M* KC - 4/23 14:38:14
                         lol, no they haven't - it's like watching revelations happen - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 14:39:14
                              The never trump crowd is pretty good at observing - *M* KC - 4/23 14:40:54
                                   hardly, or he wouldn't be potus again, you stupid fvck (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/23 15:47:46
               RE: Fascinating: Note the due process Garcia received. Many - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:35:35
          RE: Fascinating how much passion this guy generates from people - BH O'bonga MU - 4/23 14:32:29




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