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Posted on: August 5, 2024 at 19:23:43 CT
haeffb MU
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I can understand the argument for disqualification from office. Trump was impeached and received bi-partisan votes for conviction. That alone suggests there is some merit to the claim.

The Constitution is silent on how insurrection per the 14th Amendment is to be determined. It’s clearly not impeachment/conviction, which can also result in disqualification. There must be some other method.

You suggested a Senate trial, but that is fraught with partisanship as well. Maybe a SCOTUS ruling. I don’t see a good answer and I seriously don’t think the framers ever considered that an insurrection could be committed by a standing President.

My position is that I think it’s sad we have even come to consider such a question.
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Dem Threatens Civil War if Trump Elected - kp83 MU - 8/5 17:02:13
     Trump does not seek to be elected - raskolnikov MU - 8/5 17:58:28
          Your boy Joe literally ignored the SCOTUS - Calca STL - 8/5 18:39:09
               And ?(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/5 18:47:36
                    And there you go advocating tearing down institutions - Calca STL - 8/5 19:20:14
                         Na'ah, it is me holding them accountable - raskolnikov MU - 8/5 22:20:38
          Congrats on being a partisan hack dupe. Keep proving it. Nm - BandG MU - 8/5 18:00:57
          you get spoon fed mistruths and half-statements - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 17:59:41
               Answer me one question then - raskolnikov MU - 8/5 18:49:52
                    He didn't imply that he didn't need their votes. You've - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 19:09:27
                         Who said "imply". It is what Trump said. - raskolnikov MU - 8/5 22:24:29
                              i watch the entirety and understand context. You get - 90Tiger STL - 8/6 07:13:44
     2/3rds vote of congress can remove Trumps disability - FIJItiger MU - 8/5 17:10:14
          So if trump wins the election you are ok with voiding that - Th8tnTiger MU - 8/5 17:42:59
               I suspect we Will disregard the constitution (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/5 18:00:21
                    which part, specifically? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 18:03:17
                         14th amendment in this example(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/5 18:20:18
                              I'm asking you to tell me how the 14th applies, Fiji (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 18:38:23
               he "believes" something to be true and that will - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 17:48:00
          ^ voice from the side worried about Democracy - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 17:20:19
               There is a process to update or eliminate amendments - FIJItiger MU - 8/5 17:32:28
                    Kind of surprised that no one on the Supreme Court noticed - hokie VT - 8/5 17:43:17
                         I don’t know any of the justices personally (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/5 18:01:17
                              just explain your position, cite the clause that makes Trump - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 18:10:43
                                   RE: just explain your position, cite the clause that makes Trump - FIJItiger MU - 8/5 18:34:48
                                        Well, I guess it settled then. Fudgy has determined that - hokie VT - 8/5 18:45:26
                                        Oh, so because you, or some number of private citizens - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 18:42:43
                                             I love it when Lib-o-critz cite the constitution with edits - hokie VT - 8/5 18:54:15
                                                  while supporing debt forgiveness, the ACA, and endless - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 19:17:32
                              And you're so much smarter than they are. Of all the judges - hokie VT - 8/5 18:07:49
                                   RE: And you're so much smarter than they are. Of all the judges - FIJItiger MU - 8/5 18:28:38
                                        Colorado isn't the US. So it's 49 states to 1 against? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 18:44:35
                                             I think there may have been another state or two. - haeffb MU - 8/5 19:00:49
                                                  And it doesn't occur to you that it's more partisan than - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 19:10:53
                                                       Sure. Since you almost asked… - haeffb MU - 8/5 19:23:43
                                                            impeached = indicted, not convicted. Do you understand - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 19:30:31
                                                                 He actually said, unbelievably that - hokie VT - 8/5 19:41:57
                                                                      I should also have mentioned - haeffb MU - 8/5 20:04:58
                                                                           guilty of engaging in - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 20:21:50
                                                                           oh jfc (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 20:21:17
                                                                      That’s not what he said. - haeffb MU - 8/5 19:57:31
                                                                           it doesn't "suggest" anything. Does an indictment - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 20:22:29
                                                                                It indicates sufficient evidence to proceed to trial. - haeffb MU - 8/5 20:45:59
                                                                                     haeff, we have a way, it's called impeachment by the senate - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 21:30:57
                                                                                          Impeachment and Conviction by the Senate - haeffb MU - 8/5 22:03:33
                                                                                               sigh (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 22:45:20
                                                                                                    I was wrong. - haeffb MU - 8/6 04:39:16
                                                                      i know, it's patently absurd (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 19:46:38
                                                                 If you would ever - haeffb MU - 8/5 19:38:37
                                                                      RE: If you would ever - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 19:41:47
                                   Colorado Supreme Court said it was a problem - haeffb MU - 8/5 18:19:08
                                        So if any state or any number of citizens decide someone - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 18:44:11
                                             Strawman - haeffb MU - 8/5 18:54:39
                                                  oh and I missed your post when you disagreed with FIJI's - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 19:07:10
                                                       You could…uh…ask. - haeffb MU - 8/5 19:13:56
                                                            You could, uh, have stated it when you got into the thread, - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 19:20:57
                                                  it's FIJI's (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 18:59:48
                                                       Ok. (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/5 19:04:29
                    Feej, I hate to break it to you, but Trump is constitutional - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 17:37:49
                         No. He definitely isn’t. Not ambiguous (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/5 17:40:43
                              Please do share the passage(s) that matter, I'm - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 17:46:32
     A civil war of gays/women vs men - Columbian Gold MU - 8/5 17:08:23
     iNsUrrEcTIOn (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/5 17:07:33




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