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It's more than just a talent issue with Gates.

Posted on: March 11, 2024 at 11:52:19 CT
gaber c. MU
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Defense and rebounding aren't priorities within his program. His guard heavy offensive strategy and system is nothing like anything we've ever seen at Mizzou.

No way it's an unlikely coincidence that this extreme system of his has produced such remarkably extreme results in only his 2nd season here.

Edited by gaber c. at 11:54:02 on 03/11/24
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Agree or not? I think we have to patch together a decent - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 11:15:16
     We aren't doing anything - warren7 MU - 3/11 17:38:18
          That’s the type of year with a new AD - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 17:44:34
     Doesn't MU have the 4th-ranked recruiting class next year? - ERB KC - 3/11 14:50:00
          You think freshmen and the current bunch are going to be - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:08:45
               Getting Honor and Carter off the floor - Nazfan MU - 3/12 11:51:52
                    Only if the roster is upgraded. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/12 11:55:05
     if you Tonje and Grill come back, this team needs 1 or 2 - HissingPrigs77 MU - 3/11 14:14:31
          LOL! We were not good this year at all. I am tired of - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:09:47
          Assuming Bates, Grill, and Tonje return, this team needs - tsutiger57 MU - 3/11 15:10:20
               We can't count on Bates, Grill, and Tonje coming back. And, - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:12:02
          I would go after 3 players if both of them return - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 14:19:26
               If Bates, Grill, and Tonje are our best 3 players next year, - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:13:09
                    No one is saying they will be the 3 best players. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 18:18:45
                         We need at least 3 new players better than we have now(nm) - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:27:45
                              I doubt you see Mizzou add 3 better - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 18:44:08
                                   Again... we should aim higher. Tamar Bates is not going to - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:49:22
                                        What team added 2 NBA players in the portal - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 18:51:55
                                             I don't know but that is what we need if we want to win like - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:54:07
                                                  I think you are going to have to accept - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 19:16:02
                                                       We need serious NIL money. We need to pretend that MU wants - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 19:37:38
                                                            That’s well and good. It just might take more - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 19:43:06
               Sure, but what will truly move the needle is - HissingPrigs77 MU - 3/11 16:38:43
                    I get your point but we should be aiming for much - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:15:16
                         Mizzou has never been a NCAA tournament team - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 18:19:40
                              They did not let as many in during Norm's years. Now they - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:26:49
                                   Norm made it 66% of the time under the expanded - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 18:29:40
                                        Norm was a good coach. That is why there is a statue of him - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:31:48
                                             Your minimum expectation for the program - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 18:42:16
                                                  Yes! As it should be. Why have the program and sink all of - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:44:23
                                                       Mizzou hasn’t sunk much money into the program - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 18:50:49
                                                            I agree 100%.(nm) - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:54:41
     Gates never missed a jump shot or a rebound - samclemens MU - 3/11 12:50:56
          Did you see his offensive strategy and subsitutions?(nm) - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 13:28:22
               Mizzou had an elite offense last year - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 14:03:08
                    You have to adapt to the players you have. PPG this year was - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:33:52
                    Maybe not if coaches and teams you play make smart - gaber c. MU - 3/11 14:59:09
                         The things last years team was good at - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 15:01:39
                              And so if we have weaknesses at any point in the future - gaber c. MU - 3/11 15:09:01
                                   He’s going to have to recruit better - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 15:20:35
                                        I think all last year proved was that Mizzou had 2 - gaber c. MU - 3/11 15:26:15
                                             Crews couldn’t recruit - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 15:32:18
                                                  He never recruited and coached so poorly that his - gaber c. MU - 3/11 15:34:33
                                                       If Gates keeps his recruiting up - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 15:45:20
                                                            Gates proving himself to you is like Jim Jones - gaber c. MU - 3/11 15:51:15
                                                                 Being angry doesn’t help you. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 15:57:03
                                                                      You should honestly examine the reason Dennis Gates - gaber c. MU - 3/11 16:15:20
                                                                           We know why he was hired. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 16:45:56
                                                                                Hiring a guy like McCollum who's won what 3 or 4 - gaber c. MU - 3/11 17:13:22
                                                                                     My stance on McCollum is well known here - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 17:24:01
                                                                                          Thanks at last for an honest, reasonable response. - gaber c. MU - 3/11 17:30:18
                                                                                               They have all been honest - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 17:33:16
                                                                                                    If Mizzou had won a national championship last year - gaber c. MU - 3/11 18:11:43
                                                                                                         It’s exactly a good season and a bad season - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 18:17:10
                                                                                                              So the top 6 players would have been guards and one - gaber c. MU - 3/11 18:38:59
                                                                                                                   Now you are coming around to the roster construction - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 18:41:09
                                                                                                                        Every team faces problems every year. - gaber c. MU - 3/11 18:47:55
                                                                                                                             This team wasn’t in position to overcome - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 18:53:43
                                                                                                                                  No team Gates coaches where he overplays guards - gaber c. MU - 3/11 19:03:07
                                                                                                                                       You keep circling back to the known roster issues - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 19:19:04
                                                                                                                                            I see Gates is accepting responsibility for the terrible - gaber c. MU - 3/11 19:32:11
                                                                                                                                                 I think he wishes he would have done better in the portal - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 19:45:37
          You get the PPD award. Pointless Post of the Day.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 3/11 13:20:13
          He recruited every player on the team - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 12:55:48
     We either pay to get 4 good players in the portal or we pay - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 12:33:03
          I would bet Bates is top 3 if he returns. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 14:41:17
               They aren't good enough.(nm) - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:55:18
          It doesn’t take four players to replace Kobe and D’moi (nm) - haeffb MU - 3/11 14:31:57
               OK, I will take 2 as good as them. That is what we need to - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 18:56:18
          You forgot to switch to your gaber handle (nm) - ChinaTiger KC - 3/11 12:50:07
               Oh boy. Another one of these idiotic internet playbook - gaber c. MU - 3/11 15:48:07
               I barely have the desire to deal with TB with one - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 13:30:02
                    You post the same thing here every day - ChinaTiger KC - 3/11 14:17:55
                         Odd that people post the same thing on here every - gaber c. MU - 3/11 15:14:53
          you replying to yourself?(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/11 12:36:12
               So?(nm) - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 13:27:15
                    totally normal behavior(nm) - TigerA MU - 3/11 13:29:29
                         I was responding to what some of you said AFTER I posted(nm) - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 13:30:37
               Whoops, Sue’d it(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 3/11 12:43:59
     The problem is he picks the players, we need another Honor - tigertix MU - 3/11 12:21:27
          ^thinks he’s being clever typing 0-19^(nm) - redngray MU - 3/11 12:58:04
          Those 2 were really good as complimentary parts - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 12:37:34
               agree but there is no reason for them to still be playing - TigerA MU - 3/11 12:39:36
                    Who replaces them? - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 12:46:10
                         robinson played 17 min and honor played 32. swap that - TigerA MU - 3/11 12:48:38
                              Playing freshmen more than they are ready for - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 12:54:38
                                   Actually making mistakes makes people better - gaber c. MU - 3/11 14:52:03
                                        The freshmen all played. - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 14:55:31
                                             That's funny because when I play guitar or play chess - gaber c. MU - 3/11 15:05:36
                                                  Yes because playing chess is the same as basketball - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 15:06:44
                                                       In a program that values defense and rebounding like - gaber c. MU - 3/11 15:11:35
          We need much better than Honor or Carter. We need to spend(nm) - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 12:29:22
     we can but I dont think we have to.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 3/11 12:13:41
          Do you actually think we could have a decent season next - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 13:39:20
               I dont think you understand what you read - SuperTone MU - 3/11 13:44:16
     We have nothing to do with it. Gates either figures it out - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 11:54:35
          Looking back at his past I don't he has ever had to climb - tigertix MU - 3/11 12:23:32
               I don't think he has ever had to climb out.....nm - tigertix MU - 3/11 12:24:41
     WOW! WHAT A BRILLIANT STRATEGY! I had never - Carlos Rossi KC - 3/11 11:54:02
     It's more than just a talent issue with Gates. - gaber c. MU - 3/11 11:52:19
          It’s not true that defense and rebounding aren’t priorities - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 11:54:49
               You can't just say that and make it so. - gaber c. MU - 3/11 12:03:22
                    Expand your look beyond just this season - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 12:07:03
                         Wouldn't it be about game 3 that a reasonable person - gaber c. MU - 3/11 12:43:17
                              They did try some different strategies - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 12:48:07
                    You seem to be confusing lack of success - Mormad MU - 3/11 12:06:28
                         Maybe you're the one who saw Gates and Mizzou have a - gaber c. MU - 3/11 12:18:56
                              Certainly possible - Mormad MU - 3/11 12:25:22
               It is true he doesn't care and the only turnovers we get - TigerFan92 STL - 3/11 11:59:15
                    Didn't Robinson set a freshman record for steals? (nm) - ChinaTiger KC - 3/11 12:17:09
                    If this was the only year he had coached - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 12:04:04
                    Seems harsh - Mormad MU - 3/11 12:03:20
                         RE: Seems harsh - gaber c. MU - 3/11 12:07:53
                              Historically bad season. - haeffb MU - 3/11 14:30:55
                              Granted - Mormad MU - 3/11 12:10:05
     Seek help (nm) - ChinaTiger KC - 3/11 11:50:05
     Who are you going after this portal season? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 11:41:16
          Anyone that would be better than most of our starters and - Tiger_1995 MU - 3/11 12:28:43
               Who is this anyone? (nm) - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/11 12:38:16
          Deuce Bellow - Mormad MU - 3/11 11:59:32
     ok thanks (nm) - phrejd MU - 3/11 11:15:42




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