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Posted on: July 17, 2022 at 09:30:19 CT
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outsider. I enjoy reading this board. It is one of only two I post on, the other (Tiger Roar, a paid dues LSU board)
I enjoy this board because there are many thoughtful and insightful football savvy fans here with many different perspectives. It is like sitting at the dinner table discussing football with your good friends and family, albeit some is unfiltered.

There are three dominant views constantly presented here.
(1) Missouri can not compete in the SEC
(2) Missouri is a bad fit culturally for the SEC and therefore belongs in another conference more suited culturally.
(3) it seems a lot of people enjoy coming here and trashing your athletic programs.

Let me address number 1 about not able to compete.

That simply is not true.
Missouri came into the league and competed straight off two years in a row for the SEC championship.

Athletic success is a lot like military success, it is fleeting at best. To compete at a very high ‘consistent’ level (which I believe is the heart of the issue) requires the university leadership to be fully committed to competing at the highest levels and show that by its actions rather than lip service. I believe Missouri’s leadership is committed but like everything else is a work in progress. It is this way everywhere. Two years removed from a national championship LSU had a losing season. If you were to have asked LSU fans if this was possible, the unequivocal answer would have been ‘no way in hell’. But there it is.
NIL has changed the landscape. Missouri will adjust accordingly. Keep the faith.

Number 2. Missouri is a bad fit culturally.

I don’t believe this is true either. I said when I first came to this board (10 yrs) that give it ten years and Missouri will look and act like every SEC team member including their fans. I also said your former BIg XII conference mates if given the choice would trade their eye teeth to be in the SEC. Low and behold ten years later Texas and Oklahoma did.

Something I found very troubling for a long time was how would I ( as a hard core LSU fan) reconciled leaving the SEC and all the rivalries? I never found a good answer.
The Big 8 was a great conference. The dynamics changed when the four Texas schools were brought in. The bonds that hold a conference together, trust, mutual. respect and institutions on an equal footing were not there like they were in the Big 8. As a consequence Nebraska, Colorado,Texas A&M and finally Missouri left. Very difficult choices in a time of uncertainty.

What Missouri found as did Texas A&M is they were welcomed and treated as founding members with equal votes and equal distribution of monies. There were no binding contracts to handcuff Missouri or Texas A&M into staying in the SEC. A simple paragraph of we are leaving at so and so date would suffice.

There was no ‘junior membership’ discussion except when Missouri or Texas A&M asked about it.

There is no one that I am aware that doesn’t think Missouri or Texas A&M belongs.
No one. I am no fan of Texas or Oklahoma but they saw light and ran toward it. They will be welcomed the same way and treated the same way too.

3. It seems a lot of people enjoy coming here and trashing your athletic programs.

This was a head scratcher for me for a long time, but this board is populated with fans of other teams who pose as Missouri fans. They do so because their teams (now more than ever) are on the outside looking in and there they will stay.

They like many here yearn for the Big 8 days and they can make a good case about it. They felt the need to blame someone for their lot in life. I don’t blame any for that. Given the circumstances I would in all likelihood feel the same way.
The reality is this:
Missouri is in the SEC and not going anywhere. This is home and where you belong.—oz

Edited by Ozland Tiger at 09:51:00 on 07/17/22
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A point of clarification (if you will allow) from an (long) - Ozland Tiger LSU - 7/17 09:30:19
     1, 2, and 3 are liberal asshats...end of post...nm - tigertix MU - 7/17 18:37:35
     agree 100% (nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 7/17 16:56:24
     You’re a good egg, Oz, as many TBers have told you. - SSN 780 MU - 7/17 15:22:59
          RE: You’re a good egg, Oz, as many TBers have told you. - slamduncan STL - 7/17 15:28:41
               Woe is me - El Zorro MU - 7/17 16:56:25
                    RE: Woe is me - slamduncan STL - 7/17 16:58:50
     RE: A point of clarification (if you will allow) from an (long) - slamduncan STL - 7/17 14:58:05
     Great post - only wish we had more insightful comments..,. - El Zorro MU - 7/17 14:40:23
     Every team is one great quarterback away from contending - samclemens MU - 7/17 12:21:06
          RE: Every team is one great quarterback away from contending - slamduncan STL - 7/17 15:14:26
          Stttaaaahhapppppp - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/17 12:22:19
               Not with a busted leg he won't - samclemens MU - 7/17 13:55:20
                    Compare him to the list of QBs MU has had starting with... - BandG MU - 7/17 17:11:32
                    dude - JayHoaxH8r MU - 7/17 14:32:53
     This is a really insightful post- a few things- - XRob MU - 7/17 12:12:21
          How can you say that 2013 and 2014 are outliers - SSN 780 MU - 7/17 15:07:56
               Agreed on everything, very well stated(nm) - ZouPhoria MU - 7/17 21:51:19
               WE MISSED A GOLL DURN PRACTICE SEVEN YEARS AGO!!!!111 - Mothball MU - 7/17 17:42:09
                    Do you honestly believe that missing a practice was the - JeffB MU - 7/17 23:40:37
                         No. Pinkel retiring and hiring BO was our problem(nm) - phrejd MU - 7/18 08:54:58
               RE: How can you say that 2013 and 2014 are outliers - slamduncan STL - 7/17 15:43:35
               I won't disagree - XRob MU - 7/17 15:39:40
                    RE: I won't disagree - slamduncan STL - 7/17 15:57:52
                         Don’t underestimate the power of 80 or 90,000 - Genco98 MU - 7/17 16:13:47
                              RE: Don’t underestimate the power of 80 or 90,000 - slamduncan STL - 7/17 16:18:05
                    RE: I won't disagree - slamduncan STL - 7/17 15:49:48
     WADR, time has passed you by and it's a brave new world! - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 7/17 11:59:10
          Funny coming from you. Nm - BandG MU - 7/17 12:50:34
               RE: Funny coming from you. Nm - Genco98 MU - 7/17 15:33:03
                    The body of the post is fine but telling Oz time has .... - BandG MU - 7/17 17:08:42
     Well said. I always enjoy your content. (nm) - Tiger_Claw STL - 7/17 11:59:07
     Excellent, thanks (nm) - samclemens MU - 7/17 10:36:22
     Don’t be tricked by fools,and it looks like you have exposed - alwaysright MU - 7/17 10:22:03
          Damn. Your post was about enough to make me rekindle - Nohawks KC - 7/17 18:44:44
     Outstanding post - Genco98 MU - 7/17 10:03:09
          yes, but some of them are actually self-hating MU fans... - zounami MU - 7/17 10:10:51
               I’ll bet not many are - Genco98 MU - 7/17 10:37:56
     Lol at #3 - zoomer 99 - 7/17 09:55:46
          but he didn't say criticism is coming only from impostors - deputyfife MU - 7/19 16:05:01
          Mizzou ranks seventh in the number of football wins in - SSN 780 MU - 7/17 15:33:32
          There's a difference between valid criticism and - phrejd MU - 7/17 10:19:57
          Basketball for sure(nm) - tman MU - 7/17 10:02:17
     Exactly we have so many on here that use the MU logo and - MU-TULSA MU - 7/17 09:50:36
     Excellent post. Logical & well reasoned. (nm) - Lerxst MU - 7/17 09:47:14
     Oz. Great post. Now give me a difference maker - tman MU - 7/17 09:47:10
          We have 3 recruited 4* quarterbacks & a transfer who played - JeffB MU - 7/17 17:51:24
     Good rundown and welcome aboard.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 7/17 09:41:02




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