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Not with the rebuild he faced there. It's more like 3 in 4..

Posted on: December 14, 2021 at 13:33:48 CT
zounami MU
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based on seasons he had a realistic chance of getting in.

He would have gotten an NCAA bid if Geist's flop hadn't been called. That's not his fault.

He would have gotten an NCAA bid if the tourney hadn't been cancelled due to COVID, with a top 4 finish in the SEC. That's not his fault either.

His only losing season there was his first year on the job, a complete rebuild from scratch without a bunch of elite players falling into his lap like CM had his first year (and btw, without those players, CM is about to have his 3rd losing season in 4 years).

Last but not least, MSU is a tough place to win. And head-to-head, Howland is 5-1 against Cuonzo (6-0 if that Geist flop hadn't been called).




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I know we suck and so does Martin but is there really - Bump834 MU - 12/14 12:05:29
     Nope... 2014 we hired Kim instead of Howland. 2017 we hired - zounami MU - 12/14 12:59:05
          There is more than one right guy - Jeff85 MU - 12/14 13:09:28
          Howland has one bid in 7 years. CM has two in four. - HissingPrigs77 MU - 12/14 13:05:52
               5 seasons, and 2 of those were rebuilds from scratch... - zounami MU - 12/14 13:21:56
               hmmm are you saying martin has done better at MU - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/14 13:13:11
                    Cuonzo is about to have his 3rd losing season in 4 years... - zounami MU - 12/14 13:26:57
                    Cuonzo is 1-5 against Howland, with the only win in OT. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/14 13:25:03
                    I'm saying only a terminal dumb a s s would pine for Howland - HissingPrigs77 MU - 12/14 13:16:28
                         You're mentally retarded. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/14 13:20:34
                         I don't think the op is "pining" for Howland - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/14 13:18:28
                              Howland would have done extremely well here, similar to - zounami MU - 12/14 13:30:50
                                   His results would be very similar here to what they - Jeff85 MU - 12/14 13:40:06
                                        mpjr was a total bust, jontay was ok but not a program - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/14 13:43:10
                                             And you would be here mad as hell with 1 or 2 bids in - Jeff85 MU - 12/14 13:46:00
                                                  uhh isn't that where we are?(nm) - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/14 14:01:41
                                                       no, we're about to have 3 losing seasons in 4 years. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/14 14:05:49
                                                            ...and by "losing" I mean completely uncompetitive (nm) - zounami MU - 12/14 14:06:16
                                                  it's basically 3 bids in 4 seasons, at the toughest place to - zounami MU - 12/14 13:50:17
                                        We'll have to agree to disagree on that. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/14 13:40:42
                                   I agree, msu is about as difficult place to win as there is - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/14 13:35:21
                                        Toughest place to win in the SEC, hands down. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/14 13:37:31
               Howland is 5-1 against Cuonzo, winning by an average of 15+ - zounami MU - 12/14 13:10:28
                    That's some thin soup - HissingPrigs77 MU - 12/14 13:12:16
                         It's pure FACT, unlike the lie that you posted... - zounami MU - 12/14 13:17:28
                    neither are great choices. (nm) - TigerA MU - 12/14 13:11:34
                         Howland has reached three (3) Final Fours, and won at - zounami MU - 12/14 13:13:09
                              One tourney in 6 years would have TB on fire - Jeff85 MU - 12/14 13:16:05
                                   If you're counting the COVID-cancellation season, then you - zounami MU - 12/14 13:23:35
                                        2 in 6 would be considered an epic failure at MU - Jeff85 MU - 12/14 13:29:55
                                             Not with the rebuild he faced there. It's more like 3 in 4.. - zounami MU - 12/14 13:33:48
                                                  You never let go no matter what - Jeff85 MU - 12/14 13:53:47
                                                       I'm just stating facts. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/14 13:59:32
                                             he also didn't win his ncaa tourney game either(nm) - TigerA MU - 12/14 13:30:15
                              lol, three "caliber" teams but only 1 in does not bode - TigerA MU - 12/14 13:15:02
                                   He finished Top 4 SEC the year the tourney was cancelled... - zounami MU - 12/14 13:20:11
                                        how many season for CM don't count ? you move the bar - TigerA MU - 12/14 13:23:13
                                             They all count. He inherited a windfall his first season... - zounami MU - 12/14 13:24:16
                                                  why is howland still at MSU? (nm) - TigerA MU - 12/14 13:24:37
                                                       Because he's done well there, especially considering how - zounami MU - 12/14 13:26:15
                                                            lol, ok(nm) - TigerA MU - 12/14 13:26:51
     Ya think? video - alstl MU - 12/14 12:58:04
     Upgrading conferences is better than a coaching search(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/14 12:54:04
          B1G would've been an upgrade for fans. SEC was an upgrade - HissingPrigs77 MU - 12/14 12:57:50
               BTW, your takes have been really stupid recently. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/14 13:02:40
               Why do you think Texas & OU chose the SEC over B1G? (nm) - zounami MU - 12/14 12:59:35
               You must be older than I suspected (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/14 12:59:14
                    There was a time I wanted the B1G, but not anymore. The SEC - zounami MU - 12/14 13:00:04
          Yep. Thank god our Clown Admin didn't f*ck that up. (nm) - zounami MU - 12/14 12:56:24
     that's when that **** gabe brags about himself - cal tiger MU - 12/14 12:53:22
     I haven’t enjoyed a Mizzou hoops coaching search in - alwaysright MU - 12/14 12:39:02
          It's usually a trainwreck - XRob MU - 12/14 12:42:55
               Mike Anderson hire was the last one I was remotely excited - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/14 12:45:55
               what wasn't normal about the MA hire?(nm) - TigerA MU - 12/14 12:43:19
                    We held a meeting the same day to decide if our - FIJItiger MU - 12/14 12:48:21
                         huh, i recall nothing about that. thanks(nm) - TigerA MU - 12/14 12:49:16
                              Well, Alden was in hot water with the Board of Curators and - alwaysright MU - 12/14 20:01:39
                              RE: huh, i recall nothing about that. thanks(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/14 12:51:35
                                   lol such great memories, Elson Floyd, pink toes jail calls - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/14 12:54:20
                                        And things only went downhill from there......(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/14 13:00:18
                         lol I had forgot all about that drama - Th8tnTiger MU - 12/14 12:49:14
                    Haith was the only wonky hiring. Painter had just left us - DHighlander NWMSU - 12/14 12:47:09
                         The Martin hiring felt like the AD just read Tigerbored and - alwaysright MU - 12/14 20:02:52
          wait until flight tracker gets linked and we hear about - TigerA MU - 12/14 12:41:14
     If I was a new AD I'd want to hire my guy. With as bad - Nats84 MU - 12/14 12:27:11
     How about winning so you don't have to search for a new - DHighlander NWMSU - 12/14 12:21:07
          Amen....start small....let's win a conference game - Mormad MU - 12/14 12:31:18




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