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Just pointing out that there are only two choices here

Posted on: September 10, 2021 at 12:45:36 CT
JeffB MU
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logically speaking.

1. There is a God/Creator from whom all rights, duties and morality come.

2. There is no God and hence everything and everyone are just products of nature acting according to the laws of nature. Hence, there are no rights, no morals and no free will. Everything just "is". Bottom line, is that might makes right.
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So how do we bring about a world where there are no - tman MU - 9/10 11:45:46
     Impossible. You will not thwart God's installation of His - MizzouTigerz MU - 9/10 13:26:02
          you have a pretty crappy god - ashtray UF - 9/10 13:27:44
               He frequently abuses scripture to support his own beliefs.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 13:28:53
          Did God install Hitler to kill the Jews? Or maybe you are - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 13:27:35
     Guarantee: You will not hear a word from the clowns.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 9/10 12:02:10
          Lol. Look below you senile old ****. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 12:04:59
          except for all those clowns that responded - ashtray UF - 9/10 12:02:55
     you're putting the cart before the horse - ashtray UF - 9/10 11:46:57
          RE: you're putting the cart before the horse - pickle MU - 9/10 11:58:07
               Libs always acuse others of what activities they - tman MU - 9/10 12:00:46
                    So what are you accusing pickle of?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 12:01:31
          No sh*t. Let's just start with the basics set forth in the - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 11:56:27
               Exactly. Our rights come from our Creator. (nm) - JeffB MU - 9/10 11:58:07
                    Or nature. They are unalienable and self evident (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 11:59:15
                         If there is no God there are no 'rights', nor any objective - JeffB MU - 9/10 12:01:43
                              False but if God Is what keeps you from infringing upon - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 12:04:14
                                   If there is no creator and you are just a random, ever - JeffB MU - 9/10 12:13:07
                                        You went off on a tangent there. Just go with God and a - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 12:35:35
                                             That will work. I would add that the government's rights - JeffB MU - 9/10 12:42:21
                                                  Careful. Government doesn't have rights. It is not a - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 12:48:40
                                                       I think that's a matter of semantics. How would you word it - JeffB MU - 9/10 13:20:19
                                                            If they all agreed to it. But what about their children or - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 13:25:27
                                                                 The pickletopians have said that homeowner associations - JeffB MU - 9/10 13:43:36
                                                                      When a child or grandchild inherits a house from their - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 13:49:09
                                                                           It is more difficult to exit the situation, at least on the - JeffB MU - 9/10 14:21:45
                                                                      that would be a privilege - ashtray UF - 9/10 13:46:17
                                                                           Are you saying that rights can never be taken away? - JeffB MU - 9/10 14:45:02
                                                                                Again. When you take possession of the property the - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 15:16:17
                                                                                     Yes. Does the HOA have the right to levy fees/taxes if - JeffB MU - 9/10 15:24:23
                                                                           he’s lying - pickle MU - 9/10 13:52:51
                                                                                Irony(nm) - JeffB MU - 9/10 14:58:02
                                                  government is illegitimate - ashtray UF - 9/10 12:43:41
                                                       ALL governments? Even ones where 10 neighbors get together - JeffB MU - 9/10 13:16:21
                                                            you mean a system of voluntaryism? - ashtray UF - 9/10 13:25:59
                                                                 So are you saying their new government isn't a government? (nm) - JeffB MU - 9/10 14:36:03
                                                                 he isn’t going to get it - pickle MU - 9/10 13:34:20
                                        If that's what keeps you from infringing upon others then - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 12:14:28
                                             Just pointing out that there are only two choices here - JeffB MU - 9/10 12:45:36
                              incorrect (nm) - ashtray UF - 9/10 12:03:09
                    “their Creator” (nm) - pickle MU - 9/10 11:58:52
                         correct. Me not we(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 11:59:47




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