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you're putting the cart before the horse

Posted on: September 10, 2021 at 11:46:57 CT
ashtray UF
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how about just starting with recognizing that rights exist outside of government? That would be a good place for you to begin.
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So how do we bring about a world where there are no - tman MU - 9/10 11:45:46
     Impossible. You will not thwart God's installation of His - MizzouTigerz MU - 9/10 13:26:02
          you have a pretty crappy god - ashtray UF - 9/10 13:27:44
               He frequently abuses scripture to support his own beliefs.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 13:28:53
          Did God install Hitler to kill the Jews? Or maybe you are - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 13:27:35
     Guarantee: You will not hear a word from the clowns.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 9/10 12:02:10
          Lol. Look below you senile old ****. (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 12:04:59
          except for all those clowns that responded - ashtray UF - 9/10 12:02:55
     you're putting the cart before the horse - ashtray UF - 9/10 11:46:57
          RE: you're putting the cart before the horse - pickle MU - 9/10 11:58:07
               Libs always acuse others of what activities they - tman MU - 9/10 12:00:46
                    So what are you accusing pickle of?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 12:01:31
          No sh*t. Let's just start with the basics set forth in the - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 11:56:27
               Exactly. Our rights come from our Creator. (nm) - JeffB MU - 9/10 11:58:07
                    Or nature. They are unalienable and self evident (nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 11:59:15
                         If there is no God there are no 'rights', nor any objective - JeffB MU - 9/10 12:01:43
                              False but if God Is what keeps you from infringing upon - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 12:04:14
                                   If there is no creator and you are just a random, ever - JeffB MU - 9/10 12:13:07
                                        You went off on a tangent there. Just go with God and a - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 12:35:35
                                             That will work. I would add that the government's rights - JeffB MU - 9/10 12:42:21
                                                  Careful. Government doesn't have rights. It is not a - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 12:48:40
                                                       I think that's a matter of semantics. How would you word it - JeffB MU - 9/10 13:20:19
                                                            If they all agreed to it. But what about their children or - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 13:25:27
                                                                 The pickletopians have said that homeowner associations - JeffB MU - 9/10 13:43:36
                                                                      When a child or grandchild inherits a house from their - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 13:49:09
                                                                           It is more difficult to exit the situation, at least on the - JeffB MU - 9/10 14:21:45
                                                                      that would be a privilege - ashtray UF - 9/10 13:46:17
                                                                           Are you saying that rights can never be taken away? - JeffB MU - 9/10 14:45:02
                                                                                Again. When you take possession of the property the - TigerMatt STL - 9/10 15:16:17
                                                                                     Yes. Does the HOA have the right to levy fees/taxes if - JeffB MU - 9/10 15:24:23
                                                                           he’s lying - pickle MU - 9/10 13:52:51
                                                                                Irony(nm) - JeffB MU - 9/10 14:58:02
                                                  government is illegitimate - ashtray UF - 9/10 12:43:41
                                                       ALL governments? Even ones where 10 neighbors get together - JeffB MU - 9/10 13:16:21
                                                            you mean a system of voluntaryism? - ashtray UF - 9/10 13:25:59
                                                                 So are you saying their new government isn't a government? (nm) - JeffB MU - 9/10 14:36:03
                                                                 he isn’t going to get it - pickle MU - 9/10 13:34:20
                                        If that's what keeps you from infringing upon others then - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 12:14:28
                                             Just pointing out that there are only two choices here - JeffB MU - 9/10 12:45:36
                              incorrect (nm) - ashtray UF - 9/10 12:03:09
                    “their Creator” (nm) - pickle MU - 9/10 11:58:52
                         correct. Me not we(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 9/10 11:59:47




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