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Posted on: August 7, 2021 at 23:27:53 CT

TrumpToRushmore MU

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payouts.

Key to my proposal is a change in policy for the LB8, who are already conditioned to take a lesser payout and are currently motivated to do so.

That's fundamental to the deal. So no need to further discuss 'dilution' or 'the way the SEC does it' - I fully understand all of that and am suggesting a change.

So no, for first tier SEC members the payouts will be much greater (thanks to TX/OU additions) and then, beyond that, far greater because the SEC will be able to negotiate a TV deal for 24 teams instead of 16 teams.

The proposal results in:

1. Greater payouts for the 16 SEC teams.

2. More conference wins for the 16 SEC teams.

3. Less chance the 16 SEC teams will cancel each other out of the CFP.

4. A CHANCE, and that's all it is, for the LB8 to play some relevant games.

5. Better payouts for the LB8 vs Mountain West or AAC.

It's a win-win for everyone.

Edited by TrumpToRushmore at 23:43:06 on 08/07/21

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One more thing, the idea of a Big12/SEC merger is - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 15:23:25

No sane person would ever think this - Calca STL - 8/8 10:16:52

What pieces would the SEC want? I wouldn't want - Carlos Rossi KC - 8/8 08:23:08

Revenue list rankings for the LB8 - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/8 12:51:31

tldr - Emoji Man OU - 8/7 20:11:34

tldr(nm) - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 20:14:21

There's no gain for anyone in the SEC taking any of the - bcoop199 KC - 8/7 17:24:38

Yes, there is, it's called: Conference Wins. - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 17:32:04

There is no way other teams will form a “B division” - Genco98 MU - 8/8 11:00:41

Yep. I'm not seeing anyone agreeing to an English - hangman MU - 8/8 12:45:03

Yes just schedule them as non-conference games if that is - Genco98 MU - 8/8 13:29:11

Colleges need to drop the nc2a and start thinking like the - tigertix MU - 8/7 18:57:33

TV revenue doesn't matter if payout goes down - JimD MU - 8/7 17:58:24

"And face it, the SEC has already checkmated every other - Ozland Tiger LSU - 8/7 22:44:53

There is no 'killshot' but there is evidently quite a bit - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 22:55:32

Some entities are better at business than others - JimD MU - 8/7 23:13:34

SEC members who now believe that the SEC has checkmated - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 23:16:27

For argument sake, substitute the B1G for the SEC and argue - Ozland Tiger LSU - 8/7 23:42:30

I have zero expectation of any further changes beyond - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 23:49:30

I’m not a member. My team is in the conference - JimD MU - 8/7 23:37:26

I'm not the one claiming 'checkmated', you're the one going - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 23:42:03

The SEC will never just accept “anybody” - JimD MU - 8/7 23:44:57

Did you go to the SEC Championships in Atlanta? - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 23:46:12

Nope. I did not - JimD MU - 8/7 23:52:44

Answered multiple times already. And it's a goofy question - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 23:56:12

SEC and ESPN call the turne for B1G and Fox? - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 8/7 20:39:15

The SEC has NOT checkmated every other league and - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 18:00:51

You being in denial doesn't make it true - JimD MU - 8/7 18:20:26

Let's do the numbers. - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 8/7 22:01:29

Exactly the point. This drives viewers and subscriptions - JimD MU - 8/7 23:24:17

Oh I see your angle. No - I just believe in exploiting all - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 18:25:46

He's right. You're way off on this. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/7 18:43:09

Nah. JimD promised TX/OU would not happen. - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 18:46:06

I still hate it, but accept reality. - JimD MU - 8/7 18:30:30

Do you accept reality? - Genco98 MU - 8/7 19:02:55

I'm not suggesting lower payouts. Do you not understand - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 18:33:42

No, the payouts will be lower per team. That’s backwards - JimD MU - 8/7 23:19:11

I understand fully what the SEC has done historically with - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 23:27:53

You’re suggesting a change to help the LB8 - JimD MU - 8/7 23:51:24

It's not like it's a completely terrible idea - Merlin KC - 8/8 07:35:49

No, I'm suggesting a change that would permanently put the - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 23:57:01

If the SEC takes any team that team immediately gets - hangman MU - 8/8 07:13:30

There is no path to a 'super conference' that doesn't - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/8 12:34:39

What are you talking about? There already is a super - hangman MU - 8/8 16:27:17

I have zero interest in the Big 12, and I certainly don't - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/8 18:58:11

It would dilute the brand, and as the UGA fan pointed out... - zounami MU - 8/7 17:35:09

No. Chitlins do not form the basis of an expansion strategy - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 17:40:28

There you go again. Mixing a bucket of cream with a - samclemens MU

- 8/7 16:16:39

With all due respect, the LB8 have much more in common - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 16:18:33

The SEC contains Miss, Miss St, Vandy, S Carolina, and - alwaysright MU - 8/7 16:30:14

RE: The SEC contains Miss, Miss St, Vandy, S Carolina, and - tigerick MU - 8/7 16:53:48

I agree but that’s a different point. - alwaysright MU - 8/7 19:16:52

Again - there is no 'dilution of the pie' - they get a - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 17:19:46

That is the very epitome of share dilution - JimD MU - 8/7 23:29:10

No, the fact that you're pushing back so hard means you - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 23:37:09

I think you're the one pushing hard and lack understanding - JimD MU - 8/7 23:42:35

Absurd question on KU. No. Now answer my question. - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 23:45:42

This concept will never happen. - alwaysright MU - 8/7 20:37:26

I never said the concept would ever happen. - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 20:40:49

The SEC won’t do it. That’s all that matters. - alwaysright MU - 8/8 07:36:01

You could play Mo State or Semo every 5 years or so - Merlin KC - 8/7 21:00:20

Waco, Stillwater, Manhattan, Morgantown, Ames Iowa - samclemens MU

- 8/7 16:47:21

We're not buying towns, we're buying programs. Many of - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 17:20:55

Not anymore. The SEC-16 is a good cultural & geographic fit. - zounami MU - 8/7 16:29:04

None of them have the population, and most have other - JimD MU - 8/7 16:28:50

You pick bizarre attributes to make these evaluations. - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 17:27:17

You didn't respond to one thing I pointed out - JimD MU - 8/7 17:49:54

Anything can happen. I reserve the right to respond to - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 17:59:20

I say this as a REAL Mizzou grad: Not better for Mizzou - JimD MU - 8/7 18:27:39

As I've said, hate and pettiness do not win the long-term - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 18:31:10

no - pickle MU

- 8/7 15:35:44

Nice substantive post - I'm sorry I can't be part of your - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 15:38:54

The ratio of ad hominems to substantive counterpoints on TB - zounami MU - 8/7 16:23:40

What are you talkin' about Willis? - hangman MU - 8/7 16:30:59

As I said, it's gotten worse in recent years. (nm) - zounami MU - 8/7 16:32:19

Sure took a dive when the dirty pictures were disallowed - samclemens MU

- 8/7 16:57:40

Specifically, the civility rules were enforced the first - zounami MU - 8/7 16:35:54

You need to get out more. Visit other forums like the - hangman MU - 8/7 16:39:49

Those boards have mods. And it's not that they're taken - zounami MU - 8/7 16:48:31

Guess we'll just disagree on what dilutes or clutters a - hangman MU - 8/7 17:05:08

pickle is obsessed with the Big 12 - Genco98 MU - 8/7 15:45:03

There is nothing worth having left in the Big 12.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 15:28:18

You couldn't be more wrong - pettiness and hate don't - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 15:29:10

Give details as to which schools or combination - JimD MU - 8/7 16:20:41

The leftover 8 have already agreed to take less - MoArk MU - 8/7 16:28:57

The SEC doesn't do that. The attraction is equality - JimD MU - 8/7 17:53:43

The SEC can start doing that if it's in the best interest of - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 18:03:34

Saying the conference wants it doesn't make it true - JimD MU - 8/7 18:35:06

And how do you feel we'll do with this schedule: - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 18:37:13

It seems like a big part of your agenda is adding lesser - pinkman MU - 8/7 20:09:20

Absolutely true. I think having much more than two super - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 20:13:55

Don't be a pussy. (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 8/7 20:21:39

You should pass that advice along to all of the SEC - TrumpToRushmore MU - 8/7 20:22:39