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Take the incremental wins as they come, of course.

Posted on: April 1, 2021 at 09:32:20 CT
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But "if we only had the right people in charge right now" will not make any long term differences.

Maybe you've notice, but I don't talk about non-participation as much as other posters here. I'm generally in agreement with the non-participation folks, and I don't personally participate anymore (in large part because I'm too busy to waste time on meaningless motions like voting). But, I'm not an evangelistic non-participation person.

I'm in the camp of pointing out how little participation can actually accomplish, and that if real change and real liberty is desired, then minds about the nature of govt have to change. Otherwise, we will remain on the road to Serfdom, despite a few pitstop wins along the way.
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          And the answer is clearly no - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:01:47
               People always quickly agree when it is said that public - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/1 09:17:48
                    Several things - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:21:15
                         What do those schools of choice do with problem students - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/1 09:32:49
                              What does a private business do with a problem employee? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:37:46
                                   Public schools are not allowed to 'let a student go'. By law - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/1 12:18:38
                                        That's one of many problems with socialism (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/1 13:05:23
                                   he can't even begin to get his head around students - 90Tiger STL - 4/1 10:29:12
                                        Under the current laws in every state that is not an option. - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/1 12:21:57
                                        Life cannot and should not provide guarantees of outcome - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 10:31:49
                                             I don't disagree with that statement. But when you compare - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/1 12:29:59
               Engage in the grassroots effort to change minds and move - ummmm MU - 4/1 09:06:42
                    Thanks again for the lecture, miss. Do you know if Overton - hokie VT - 4/1 09:13:53
                         You are very immature. (nm) - ummmm MU - 4/1 09:14:15
                              Nuh-uh. Am not. Nm - hokie VT - 4/1 09:23:00
                                   I am a firm believer aging is mandatory - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:28:28
                    In Wisconsin, we made overwhelming reform that allowed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:10:35
                         That would be an example of decentralizing power, which - ummmm MU - 4/1 09:13:35
                              And if we did not participate in the system, which you just - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:15:53
                                   Your example of a good result is the "system" giving up - ummmm MU - 4/1 09:21:11
                                        And I don't necessarily disagree - the question is what - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:23:34
                                             Take the incremental wins as they come, of course. - ummmm MU - 4/1 09:32:20
                                                  And thank you for not making the foolish claim that the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:40:35
                                                  And I have previously stated appreciation for much of what - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:36:29
                                                       “to do nothing” is a straw man (nm) - pickle MU - 4/1 09:38:35
                                   you won’t allow yourself to be intellectually honest - pickle MU - 4/1 09:18:28
                                        He did consider another point of view and he gave a very - DHighlander NWMSU - 4/1 09:21:07
                                             he did not and he has not - pickle MU - 4/1 09:29:28
                                             no, he dismissed the POV without thought (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/1 09:22:43
          Thanx for the lecture, sally. So your mood governs your - hokie VT - 4/1 08:59:41
               Yes, I try to determine how I can strike a chord - ummmm MU - 4/1 09:02:16
                    Wow, so you’re like our teacher, our mentor, our - hokie VT - 4/1 09:09:33
                         translation: "I don't like you because you're more effective - 90Tiger STL - 4/1 09:21:25
                         I will jump in and state this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:14:01
                              what is ummmm's "absolutism"? Is this your way of - 90Tiger STL - 4/1 09:20:43
                                   I just did above - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:26:14
                              I understand and I used to think he was, “better than that” - hokie VT - 4/1 09:20:24
                                   you're projecting (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/1 13:11:34
                                   We all have our good and bad moments here and elsewhere - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 09:28:01
                                        I thought the same early on. The more i engaged with him, - hokie VT - 4/1 10:08:42
                                             Let me be abundantly clear and direct: - ummmm MU - 4/1 10:23:09
                                                  unfortunately that likely won’t be clear enough (nm) - pickle MU - 4/1 10:30:46
                                             I clicked on the post, but didn't invest any time in - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/1 10:15:17
                                   What have I dodged? What have I lied about? - ummmm MU - 4/1 09:22:43
                                        Seriously? What is your opinion on sandiego teachers - hokie VT - 4/1 09:31:02
                                             Public schools should be eliminated is my opinion. - ummmm MU - 4/1 09:34:43
                                                  Sounds like an admission of ducking that you had denied - hokie VT - 4/1 09:41:08
                                                       Post links. (nm) - ummmm MU - 4/1 10:22:03
                         Don't you also come here trying to get people to think about - ummmm MU - 4/1 09:11:21
               maybe you could stop being a pussy? (nm) - pickle MU - 4/1 09:00:29
               you asked him, you tvvat(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/1 09:00:20
                    give him the bluesox treatment (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/1 09:11:10
          I don't know why you'd make that assumption (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/1 08:56:21




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