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The fact that you can attempt a fraudulent transfer

Posted on: December 28, 2020 at 12:35:56 CT
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of the brooklyn bridge doesn't change the nature of a quitclaim deed.

The pickle's original post that started this drama was:

"it was a quitclaim deed, that's not a transfer of property"

http://www.tigerboard.com/boards/view.php?message=17341445

This was not a discussion of the Brooklyn Bridge or some other nonsense.

The facts of this case are that the bomber recorded the quitclaim deed of his property to the hot chick:

https://www.wbir.com/article/news/crime/records-man-scrutinized-in-nashville-bombing-deeded-properties-to-woman-with-east-tn-ties/51-a9c4a541-ae97-4585-9e4a-cd315b909e9e

That WAS a transfer of property, Teetee.
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So a quitclaim deed is NOT a transfer of property? - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:19:40
     If the initial interest is Fee Simple property interest, the - Mizzou Lou KC - 12/28 13:08:29
     My google search on this redirected to TB(nm) - miz_zou MU - 12/28 12:23:59
     correct, by itself, it does not imply a transfer of property - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 12:18:21
          a deed does not imply transfer of property? - gmmm98 MU - 12/28 12:35:42
               RE: a deed does not imply transfer of property? - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 12:44:21
                    yeah, that's stupid. a deed implies a property transfer. - gmmm98 MU - 12/28 12:49:04
                         Only hitch is that a Deed transfer does not guarantee - Mizzou Lou KC - 12/28 13:10:58
                              Correct - it reflects an OWNERSHIP TRANSFER - tigerdb MU - 12/28 14:15:20
                                   Agree...there is a lot of meat-beating going on. Transfer - Mizzou Lou KC - 12/28 14:58:10
                              which is another reason a quit claim is not a property - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 14:00:46
                                   Meh...it is the wrong instrument if you are not transferring - Mizzou Lou KC - 12/28 14:57:11
                         no, and you didn't offer any further argument (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 13:00:43
                         incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 12:54:26
                              now you're being stupid - gmmm98 MU - 12/28 13:13:58
                                   it does not - pickle MU - 12/28 13:17:59
                                        to the extent that is responsive - gmmm98 MU - 12/28 13:21:38
                                             no, the title implies it is quitting (or transferring) - pickle MU - 12/28 13:31:09
                                                  . - gmmm98 MU - 12/28 13:35:01
                                                       bad faith? no (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 13:36:18
                                                            i say: - gmmm98 MU - 12/28 13:38:59
                                                                 interest =/= property - pickle MU - 12/28 13:47:34
                                                                      a deed impliedly transfers property - gmmm98 MU - 12/28 13:55:34
          Ha... - Gyro MU - 12/28 12:29:41
               not an argument (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 12:44:00
                    No its not.... - Gyro MU - 12/28 17:21:08
     it isn't, and you should know this - ashtray UF - 12/28 11:30:12
          Uh, no - OntheMark MU - 12/28 12:57:03
          No, you should know - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:37:46
               how do you know he had title to the property? - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/28 11:43:57
                    she got a big headache from having her name associated - tigerdb MU - 12/28 12:02:11
                         If there is no money owed - meatiger MU - 12/28 12:18:10
                    The mortgage is an additional aspect of the situation... - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:45:59
                         If I dont have clear title, a quit claim is worthless isn't - hefeweizen MU - 12/28 11:47:33
                              If you have no equity or the grantor is upside down on the.. - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:56:22
                              in no way is the lender technically the owner - gmmm98 MU - 12/28 11:54:53
                                   the lender can repossess it(nm) - meatiger MU - 12/28 11:57:18
                                        the property is collateral for the loan - pickle MU - 12/28 12:09:02
                                             whatever the word is - meatiger MU - 12/28 12:11:22
                                                  A QCD to someone not on the loan.... - Gyro MU - 12/28 12:15:18
                                                       Not a suprise - meatiger MU - 12/28 12:17:26
                                                            You can rent the property still... - Gyro MU - 12/28 12:20:42
                                                                 I never said that - meatiger MU - 12/28 12:31:20
                                        a secured interest is not technically owning the property - gmmm98 MU - 12/28 12:03:46
                                   yep, they only become the owner upon default(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/28 11:56:20
                              or it helps tie a nice, neat bow on a transfer - pickle MU - 12/28 11:53:06
                                   but it doesn't release them from any mortgage requirements - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/28 11:55:13
                                        the DOT transfer did that - pickle MU - 12/28 12:00:11
                              it transfers whatever interest the granter had in the - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/28 11:51:47
                              I assume a quit claim..is you just walk away from it - meatiger MU - 12/28 11:50:39
                                   The lender always has at least partial equitable interest... - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:53:06
                              Well the grantee takes title subject to the mortgage.... - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:49:46
                                   But what if I say **** that, I don't want it? Don't I have - hefeweizen MU - 12/28 11:51:53
                                        And then he could quitclaim the property to the lender - tigerdb MU - 12/28 11:56:59
                                             Deed in lieu, etc.(nm) - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:58:45
                                        Then you can quitclaim to someone else.lll - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:55:10
                                             So the hot chick may not even know this mfer and can indeed - hefeweizen MU - 12/28 11:56:13
                                                  Of course(nm) - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:57:02
                                                       So unless she accepts it, a quit claim isn't necessarily - hefeweizen MU - 12/28 11:58:13
               I know it is used in that manner, yes - ashtray UF - 12/28 11:39:25
                    That’s an irrelevant response(nm) - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:43:13
                         sorry for your disappointment (nm) - ashtray UF - 12/28 11:44:31
          it has a grantor and a grantee, how is that NOT a transfer?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/28 11:33:44
          You should tell that to the assessor... - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:32:14
               So the assessor will transfer the property? - kmawv8 MU - 12/28 11:36:01
                    No, the assessor recognizes it as a transfer because... - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:42:03
                    I thought that was the recorder of deeds(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/28 11:41:40
                    The assessor will assess real property taxes to the owner - tigerdb MU - 12/28 11:39:32
          correct (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 11:31:56
     correct (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 11:21:48
          A quitclaim deed transfers ownership of property. - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:27:44
               Yes, family or between friend transactions... - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:47:53
               Does it require an acceptance signature by the other party?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/28 11:28:30
                    If the grantee is unaware of the quitclaim filing, they - Mizzou Lou KC - 12/28 13:18:31
                    generally not - Spanky KU - 12/28 11:34:15
                    No - and it is a legal transfer(nm) - tigerdb MU - 12/28 11:32:16
                         transfer of interest, not property (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 11:34:09
                         RE: No - and it is a legal transfer(nm) - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:32:35
          does she now own property she didn't previously own?(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/28 11:25:13
          You're even more stupid than I thought(nm) - tigerdb MU - 12/28 11:22:43
               i can quit claim the brooklyn bridge to you - pickle MU - 12/28 11:29:14
                    You can transfer ownership of property that you DO own, - tigerdb MU - 12/28 11:31:00
                         a quit claim is just that: - pickle MU - 12/28 11:33:36
                              So...if someone has free and clear ownership of property - tigerdb MU - 12/28 11:38:06
                                   the question is - did he own it to transfer it? - tigerinhogtown STL - 12/28 11:42:01
                                        Pickle's point is inane - I said "if someone has free and - tigerdb MU - 12/28 11:54:57
                                             no, his point is spot on (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 12:17:39
                                                  No - it's not, you stupid ****. - tigerdb MU - 12/28 12:23:32
                                                       incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 12/28 12:31:47
                                                       RE: No - it's not, you stupid ****. - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 12:28:37
                                                       It's not always a transfer of property, period. I can sign - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 12:28:09
                                                            The fact that you can attempt a fraudulent transfer - tigerdb MU - 12/28 12:35:56
                                                                 it's not fraudulent and a quit claim is not inherently - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 12:45:49
                                                                      Go ahead and say it teetee: "it's removing a claim to - tigerdb MU - 12/28 12:51:14
                                                                           no, it isn't transferring anything, a quit claim deed - 90Tiger STL - 12/28 13:01:42
                                                                                You're stupid as fu ck(nm) - tigerdb MU - 12/28 13:05:41
                                                                 it’s not fraudulent - pickle MU - 12/28 12:40:18
                                                                      Even your shadow acknowledged "it's not always a transfer - tigerdb MU - 12/28 12:47:47
                                                                           lol it’s not muddying title - pickle MU - 12/28 12:53:51
                                                                                70 - tigerdb MU - 12/28 12:58:42
                                                                                     RE: 70 - pickle MU - 12/28 13:17:08
                                                                                          I was right - definitely under 70. - tigerdb MU - 12/28 13:24:34
                                                                                               RE: I was right - definitely under 70. - pickle MU - 12/28 13:33:29
                                             lmfao - pickle MU - 12/28 12:02:26
                                                  The distortions are yours - rationalizing your position with - tigerdb MU - 12/28 12:38:49
                                                       rationalization? lol no - pickle MU - 12/28 12:52:18
                                   we have no idea if there is free and clear ownership - pickle MU - 12/28 11:40:35
                                   as far as the hot chick knows, she does - ashtray UF - 12/28 11:40:11
                         But the Brooklyn Bridge and stuff(nm) - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:33:13
                         she would already have to be on the title - ashtray UF - 12/28 11:32:50
               I could have sworn I had seen the bottom of his stupidity... - Gyro MU - 12/28 11:23:43




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