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Posted on: August 9, 2019 at 09:08:00 CT
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I'm not out to harm anyone. I have been in fights before where I did want to harm someone when I was younger. I even won a couple of fights where the person I was fighting with probably didn't feel their life was in danger but could have passed that threshold in a court of law. I'm glad guns weren't as common when I was younger and dumb.

I'm scared for my kids and what may happen if they're young and dumb.

And this started because the burden of proof is not that you're allowed to kill anyone that means harm. That changes things quite a bit from "life in danger". But, that's what Wildcat said and that's what a lot of people think.
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Too bad a good samaritan didn't shoot this idiot. - StaleyTiger MU - 8/9 06:49:36
     So shoot a guy for doing nothing wrong? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/9 10:23:54
     He got the attention he was seeking - video mentioned - alstl MU - 8/9 09:12:13
          Dmitriy Andreychenko, arrested for terroristis threats - TigerJackSwartz MU - 8/9 09:44:19
               Next comes mental evaluation - then committed - alstl MU - 8/9 10:15:28
               oh no.....it's happening(nm) - dangertim MU - 8/9 09:45:03
     Maybe it’ll be on LivePD(nm) - Ozark Apple MU - 8/9 08:59:30
     Culture of antagonism(nm) - TheShoe STL - 8/9 08:44:14
     Strange 1) Walmarts uusually post no guns allowed - Macgrantt MU - 8/9 08:25:09
          Walmart firearms policy - pickle MU - 8/9 08:39:15
               As always you have no idea what you're talking about - Macgrantt MU - 8/9 11:07:48
          how long have you been a walmart greeter? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 8/9 08:28:31
               Macgrantt flips burgers at McDonald's (nm) - zounami MU - 8/9 11:23:40
               He gives out his abundance of AAPL shares - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:36:13
                    Do you have nightmares and awaken at 3am thinking - Macgrantt MU - 8/9 11:12:12
          Why would he be fined $100? - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:28:20
               for going to Walmart(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 8/9 08:30:30
                    LOL(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:32:55
          Speaking of Bob - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:28:08
          It's a terribly difficult situation (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:26:39
     Its bizarre that people are just allowed to walk - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:03:30
          Why would they not be allowed to?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 08:36:04
               To reduce gun violence. I think his point is that only - zounami MU - 8/9 09:52:30
                    No he states below cops shouldn't have them either(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 10:04:34
                         then he's being sarcastic or trolling (nm) - zounami MU - 8/9 10:25:10
                              That's your problem then. Anytime he says something - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 10:27:56
                                   Knowing when someone is being sarcastic or trolling is a - zounami MU - 8/9 10:32:10
                                        He's not being sarcastic or trolling, that's what he believe - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 10:43:04
                                             I don't need to ask him. I am 100% sure that he thinks - zounami MU - 8/9 10:50:26
                                                  lol. ok - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 10:53:24
                                                       I can see why Fiji likes to troll you (nm) - zounami MU - 8/9 11:07:26
                                                            It's no wonder most of the board likes neither of you(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 11:13:31
                                                                 do you come here to make friends? (nm) - zounami MU - 8/9 11:19:46
                                                                      no(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 13:19:08
               Fiji is still furious about the Athena nightclub thing. - dangertim MU - 8/9 08:46:49
                    That involved a punch to the face over chicken wings - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:48:02
                         He is probably thinking of Carroll getting shot but I don't - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:53:53
                              There was a guy on our team in the 70's who got shot and - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:56:20
               They are allowed to. That is the bizarre part (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:44:58
                    Why did you purposely ignore the tense of my question?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 08:50:28
                         Past, current, and future tense they are allowed to - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:51:39
                              So you do it to avoid actually discussing anything or - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 08:57:13
                                   In terms of - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:00:11
                                        you are incapable of mature discussion (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 09:08:59
                                             Depends on the topic. I'm quite capable with - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:11:05
                                                  Except that's not the discussion you started or that we're - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:14:44
                                                       You are allowed to, that is considered normal - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:18:09
                                                            You literally posted "Its bizarre that people are just allow - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:21:59
                                                                 I don't see how what you quoted from that post - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:23:05
                                                                      It's bizarre you find yourself to be so intelligent.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:26:33
                                                                           Its relative - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:27:47
                                                                                It's bizarre you find yourself more intelligent than those - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:33:54
                                        I want to know what your argument is. I know what some - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:02:14
                                             That is because I'm not making an argument - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:06:10
                                                  No, you stated it's bizzare people are "allowed to". - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:11:28
                                                       The 2nd Amendment grants Americans that right (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:13:30
                                                            So why is it bizarre we are "allowed to" carry loaded weapon - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:18:46
                                                                 Its not the late 1700's - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:21:55
                                                                      Hitler disarming Germany is why the holocaust happened (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:24:45
                                                                           Jesus, that is a profoundly stupid statement (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:26:33
                                                                                That is exactly what happened. Hitler disarmed the country - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:28:45
                                                                                     Both of those things happened. One did not - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:30:44
                                                                                          So are you suggesting the jews would have been - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:31:48
                                                                                               Probably. - DC Jayhawk KU - 8/9 09:38:14
                                                                                                    lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/9 21:17:10
                                                                                                    Then why did Hitler do it? What was the purpose? - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:39:38
                                                                                               Sorry, this is too silly to engage as being valid (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:34:58
                                                                                                    Lol, IT WAS HITLER'S EXACT PLAN AND IT WORKED! (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:36:10
                                                                                               this is a poor response (nm) - TigerA MU - 8/9 09:33:35
                                                                                                    Why? They were easy to round up because they could - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:34:35
                                                                                                         did all 11 M have guns before hand? if all had guns - TigerA MU - 8/9 09:44:29
                                                                                                              They didn't know what was coming and they didn't have - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:45:17
                                                                      The amendment didn't grant us the right. - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:24:27
                                                                           Not all, but that part sure - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:25:51
                                                                                lmfao, you don't even know how rights or the constitution - 90Tiger STL - 8/9 21:18:30
                                                                                we were born with the right, the amend limits the govt's - blake1771 KC - 8/9 10:55:40
                                                                                No it doesn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 09:46:55
                                                                                So why is that one obsolete but others are not? - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:27:23
                                                                                     Its original purpose and premise is no longer applicable - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:29:18
                                                                                          Why do you think it is no longer applicable? - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:33:25
                                                                                               Outlawing alcohol created a black market which - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:35:25
                                                                                          The 2nd amendment was meant to defend against a - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:30:54
                                                                                               Cool. Good luck in defeating the - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:32:50
                                                                                                    why is afghanistan still a country, fiji? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/9 21:19:35
                                                                                                    Why is it not logical, applicable, or relevant?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:35:30
                                                                                                    You know that the american public has more weaponry - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:33:51
                                                                                                         I'm saying good luck in your endeavors - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:37:07
                                                                                                              It's bizarre that anyone would think we should just submit - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:47:06
                                                                                                                   He won't admit it at all. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:47:31
                                                                                                              If I was alone. Luckily there are 100 million+gun owners - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:37:52
                                                                                                                   Hitler wasn't rounding up Germany, he was rounding up - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:40:36
                                                                                                                        He rounded up over 11 million of them. What was the - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:41:48
                                                                                                                             Like I said, this is too silly to treat as valid. Sorry (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:42:34
                                                                                                                                  He disarmed them and made it possible. Think. I know it's - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:43:24
                                                            no it doesn’t. (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 09:18:34
                    allowed is the wrong word choice - pickle MU - 8/9 08:49:50
                         Talking about behavior, not existing (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:53:06
                              So am i (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 08:54:10
                                   I was doing it using words that make sense - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:57:27
                                        Again, we do not exist at the permission of gvmt - pickle MU - 8/9 09:08:22
                                             You are allowed to exist, which is not what we - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:12:34
                                                  ok, so you’re in the pro-slavery column (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 09:19:32
                                                       I wasn't alive then (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:23:51
                                                       lol(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:22:32
                                                       lol(nm) - TigerA MU - 8/9 09:20:41
          It's bizarre people think that is bizarre (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:14:08
               Yeah man! I always carry at least 5 loaded guns on me - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 08:29:59
                    Hitler disarmed Germany, too. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:31:45
                         Background checks is not saying that you need to - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 08:35:10
                              This is the part some of you dont understand - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:38:29
                                   Cool, I'm not trying to stop criminals dead set on getting a - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 08:42:28
                              Pssst, I have done a background check for every weapon - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:37:32
                                   Fewer than 50% of gun purchases are subject to - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 08:43:52
                                        I don't have any problem with background checks. Most - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:48:22
                                             That's why there needs to be an age restriction - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/9 09:11:48
                                                  Lol, 35. You have to be 18 to own a rifle and 21 for - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:14:53
                                        Two things - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:45:29
                                             Just like a car.. - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 08:46:56
                                                  lol - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:49:28
                                                       Obviously some damages could never be fully - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 08:52:54
                                                            All kinds of recourse. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:54:58
                                                       LMAO(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:51:28
                                                       hahahahaha (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:50:03
                                                  RE: Just like a car.. - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:48:31
                                   Good... now get rid of the loopholes concerning background - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 08:41:07
                                        So someone can break in to my house, get in my night - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:43:04
                                             Is storing your weapon in your nightstand drawer - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 08:43:48
                                                  Mine is in a lockbox under my bed - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:55:34
                                                       I am going to get one of those fingerprint gun safes - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:56:55
                                                            Now thieves will know to cut off your finger first(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:59:33
                                                  Well if someone breaks in to my house at night, I doubt they - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:45:48
                                                       Fun fact... the 2nd amendment is for resisting the - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 09:16:12
                                                            I agree with that being the reason behind the 2nd amendment - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:17:59
                                                       The random break in excuse for needing a gun - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 08:47:27
                                                            Yea, home invasions don't happen all the time all over the - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:48:58
                                                                 They are exceedingly rare and almost never random. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 08:53:20
                                                                      wut? - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:59:19
                                                                           My home was burgled too. - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 09:10:46
                                                                                Had you been home and he was all ****ed up on drugs, - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:11:23
                                                                                     Here's the things about junkies... - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 09:18:20
                                                                      I don't see how knowing my intruder should make me any - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:54:58
                                                       New rule - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:47:20
                              there should be more checks. (nm) - TigerA MU - 8/9 08:36:23
               How Bizarre - TigerA MU - 8/9 08:24:12
          not bizarre at all (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 08:09:49
          How often are those loaded weapons used - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:06:17
               Way too often. Only military and law enforcement should be - go tigers MU - 8/9 08:22:38
                    you’re an idiot (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 08:40:36
                    and people should have to registar with the gov't - tigerinhogtown STL - 8/9 08:26:19
                    So if I live in east BF, MO - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:24:30
                         I personally don't care if you own a gun or not - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:32:39
                              But it's the easiest - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:35:40
                                   Nothing a bucket loader - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:36:53
                              land mines!!!!(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:33:34
                                   Sure - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:34:47
                                        such as?(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:35:41
                                             If your argument is that an intruder has already - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:39:19
                                                  I am not a criminal but if I wanted to get in a house - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:52:55
                                                       I don't live in that part of the world, nor do I fear for my - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:56:48
                                                            I am the same - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:58:46
                                                                 I'm not an anti-gun person. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:14:27
                                                                      I don't think it's necessary. I don't know anyone who - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:15:21
                                                                           I know many gun owners that think its necessary - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:20:44
                                                                                I see not owning one as a gamble. The odds are - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:22:03
                                                            Yea, unless you are a millionaire, there aren't many houses - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:58:06
                                                                 Intruders typically go for the easiest target. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:03:54
                                                                      I have a Ring doorbell. No body ****ing with me (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:05:08
                                                                           I have a very good alarm system and a Ring doorbell. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:10:44
                                                                 If someone wanted to kill you, they also could - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:03:01
                                                                      Yes, that has nothing do with owning a gun though (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:06:24
                                                                           So if someone wanted to take the time to plan - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:08:34
                                                                                If I am in there and I have a gun, we're at least going - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:10:22
                                                                                     No, they would probably just shoot you and you would - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:15:05
                                                                                          I don't think Navy Seals are the ones breaking in to houses. - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:16:21
                                                                      correct (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:04:34
                                                  don't forget moats(nm) - TigerA MU - 8/9 08:39:59
                                                       That could be one of the "etc". (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:41:33
                                             You ever heard of a roundhouse kick to the face?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 08:37:23
                                                  That can kill a person(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:37:53
                                             Kung Fu (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:36:56
                                        like hobbling? - TigerA MU - 8/9 08:35:40
                                        Lol, what a dumb statement (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:35:30
               Not really the point (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:09:33
                    Well...that is the counter point - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:12:09
                         Counter points are supposed - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:12:58
                              Not if the basis of the original point - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:15:55
                                   I acknowledge you don't, that is specifically - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:20:13
                                        there have been loaded guns throughout society - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:22:49
                                             That is the country I am referring to (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:23:43
                                             There have always been weapons to kill eachother. Always.(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:23:15
                                        Lol, oh man...oh man. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:21:00
                    do you have the same reaction about cops? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 08:10:22
                         Yes, I would prefer they not carry guns - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:12:28
                              Lol, that "level of technology". Yes, guns are so complex - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:17:55
                                   We need virtual stun guns - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:22:15
                                        This has been discussed on here with Fiji before - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:28:30
                                             Well I guess fiji better get to inventing (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:29:29
                                                  He does seem to have a point - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:31:10
                                                       When something renders you unconcious - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:35:13
                                                            I didn't say safe. I said "safer". - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:37:35
                                                            Nor should there be. If you mean to do harm with someone - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:36:42
                                                                 Fairly extreme point of view (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:41:04
                                                                      No it's not and the state of missouri backs me up. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:42:16
                                                                           No it doesn't. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:43:47
                                                                                If someone punches me and I fear for my life I can kill him(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:46:12
                                                                                     You added an "and" to that statement. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:47:48
                                                                                          If you're looking to harm someone you should understand - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 08:58:13
                                                                                               I understand that completely. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:08:00
                                                                                                    I don't have to fear for my life. I just have to say I do. - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:13:00
                                                                                                         Ummmm, I just explained that exact scenario. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:17:04
                                                                                                              I am not saying I would...I am saying that it can happen. - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:18:46
                                                                                                                   But you’re ok if someone else killed someone that meant - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:22:28
                                                                                                                        Well, if they fear for their life I am. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:25:19
                                                                                                                             But that's not what you originally said. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:28:15
                                                                                                                                  Meaning harm can mean a lot of different things (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:29:22
                                                       Yea, and cancer should be cured. **** and one hand and - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:32:30
                                   They are not, its an 18th century technology at best - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:18:56
                                        You've obviously never held a gun (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:23:34
                                             Nor a spear, throwing star, or bazooka. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:24:35
                                                  How about a rock? (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:26:07
                                                       Yes. That is older than 18th century technology (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:26:57
                              So only criminals get to carry weapons - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:14:36
                                   Re-read the original post - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:18:09
                                        You changed the narrative - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:20:04
                                             You just got to think positive and then the criminals will - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:20:38
                                                  Give them a stress ball and a hug (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:21:32
                              cops don’t exist to keep the peace - pickle MU - 8/9 08:13:37
     By reading the article - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:01:39
     What is going through this moron's head? How could a person - tgr MU - 8/9 08:01:20
     If he was a little black kid holding a toy gun - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 07:56:26
          Are you and fiji having a private competition - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:16:26
     What an odd post - pickle MU - 8/9 07:52:11
          Sorry, I was channeling my inner Tigrrrrr. I probably - StaleyTiger MU - 8/9 08:00:28
          the tolerant left(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 8/9 07:56:30
     So, too bad the fireman holding him at gunpoint didn't - Newcatbirdseat MU - 8/9 07:40:46




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