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Posted on: August 9, 2019 at 08:39:19 CT
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gotten to your house or gained entry, I can see how a gun is a last line of defense.

But there are plenty of things to do to keep people out and protect your property before that.

Fences, locks, etc etc etc.
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Too bad a good samaritan didn't shoot this idiot. - StaleyTiger MU - 8/9 06:49:36
     So shoot a guy for doing nothing wrong? (nm) - Sal KC - 8/9 10:23:54
     He got the attention he was seeking - video mentioned - alstl MU - 8/9 09:12:13
          Dmitriy Andreychenko, arrested for terroristis threats - TigerJackSwartz MU - 8/9 09:44:19
               Next comes mental evaluation - then committed - alstl MU - 8/9 10:15:28
               oh no.....it's happening(nm) - dangertim MU - 8/9 09:45:03
     Maybe it’ll be on LivePD(nm) - Ozark Apple MU - 8/9 08:59:30
     Culture of antagonism(nm) - TheShoe STL - 8/9 08:44:14
     Strange 1) Walmarts uusually post no guns allowed - Macgrantt MU - 8/9 08:25:09
          Walmart firearms policy - pickle MU - 8/9 08:39:15
               As always you have no idea what you're talking about - Macgrantt MU - 8/9 11:07:48
          how long have you been a walmart greeter? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 8/9 08:28:31
               Macgrantt flips burgers at McDonald's (nm) - zounami MU - 8/9 11:23:40
               He gives out his abundance of AAPL shares - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:36:13
                    Do you have nightmares and awaken at 3am thinking - Macgrantt MU - 8/9 11:12:12
          Why would he be fined $100? - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:28:20
               for going to Walmart(nm) - tigerinhogtown STL - 8/9 08:30:30
                    LOL(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:32:55
          Speaking of Bob - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:28:08
          It's a terribly difficult situation (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:26:39
     Its bizarre that people are just allowed to walk - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:03:30
          Why would they not be allowed to?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 08:36:04
               To reduce gun violence. I think his point is that only - zounami MU - 8/9 09:52:30
                    No he states below cops shouldn't have them either(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 10:04:34
                         then he's being sarcastic or trolling (nm) - zounami MU - 8/9 10:25:10
                              That's your problem then. Anytime he says something - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 10:27:56
                                   Knowing when someone is being sarcastic or trolling is a - zounami MU - 8/9 10:32:10
                                        He's not being sarcastic or trolling, that's what he believe - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 10:43:04
                                             I don't need to ask him. I am 100% sure that he thinks - zounami MU - 8/9 10:50:26
                                                  lol. ok - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 10:53:24
                                                       I can see why Fiji likes to troll you (nm) - zounami MU - 8/9 11:07:26
                                                            It's no wonder most of the board likes neither of you(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 11:13:31
                                                                 do you come here to make friends? (nm) - zounami MU - 8/9 11:19:46
                                                                      no(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 13:19:08
               Fiji is still furious about the Athena nightclub thing. - dangertim MU - 8/9 08:46:49
                    That involved a punch to the face over chicken wings - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:48:02
                         He is probably thinking of Carroll getting shot but I don't - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:53:53
                              There was a guy on our team in the 70's who got shot and - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:56:20
               They are allowed to. That is the bizarre part (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:44:58
                    Why did you purposely ignore the tense of my question?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 08:50:28
                         Past, current, and future tense they are allowed to - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:51:39
                              So you do it to avoid actually discussing anything or - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 08:57:13
                                   In terms of - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:00:11
                                        you are incapable of mature discussion (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 09:08:59
                                             Depends on the topic. I'm quite capable with - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:11:05
                                                  Except that's not the discussion you started or that we're - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:14:44
                                                       You are allowed to, that is considered normal - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:18:09
                                                            You literally posted "Its bizarre that people are just allow - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:21:59
                                                                 I don't see how what you quoted from that post - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:23:05
                                                                      It's bizarre you find yourself to be so intelligent.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:26:33
                                                                           Its relative - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:27:47
                                                                                It's bizarre you find yourself more intelligent than those - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:33:54
                                        I want to know what your argument is. I know what some - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:02:14
                                             That is because I'm not making an argument - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:06:10
                                                  No, you stated it's bizzare people are "allowed to". - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:11:28
                                                       The 2nd Amendment grants Americans that right (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:13:30
                                                            So why is it bizarre we are "allowed to" carry loaded weapon - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:18:46
                                                                 Its not the late 1700's - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:21:55
                                                                      Hitler disarming Germany is why the holocaust happened (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:24:45
                                                                           Jesus, that is a profoundly stupid statement (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:26:33
                                                                                That is exactly what happened. Hitler disarmed the country - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:28:45
                                                                                     Both of those things happened. One did not - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:30:44
                                                                                          So are you suggesting the jews would have been - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:31:48
                                                                                               Probably. - DC Jayhawk KU - 8/9 09:38:14
                                                                                                    lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/9 21:17:10
                                                                                                    Then why did Hitler do it? What was the purpose? - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:39:38
                                                                                               Sorry, this is too silly to engage as being valid (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:34:58
                                                                                                    Lol, IT WAS HITLER'S EXACT PLAN AND IT WORKED! (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:36:10
                                                                                               this is a poor response (nm) - TigerA MU - 8/9 09:33:35
                                                                                                    Why? They were easy to round up because they could - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:34:35
                                                                                                         did all 11 M have guns before hand? if all had guns - TigerA MU - 8/9 09:44:29
                                                                                                              They didn't know what was coming and they didn't have - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:45:17
                                                                      The amendment didn't grant us the right. - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:24:27
                                                                           Not all, but that part sure - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:25:51
                                                                                lmfao, you don't even know how rights or the constitution - 90Tiger STL - 8/9 21:18:30
                                                                                we were born with the right, the amend limits the govt's - blake1771 KC - 8/9 10:55:40
                                                                                No it doesn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 09:46:55
                                                                                So why is that one obsolete but others are not? - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:27:23
                                                                                     Its original purpose and premise is no longer applicable - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:29:18
                                                                                          Why do you think it is no longer applicable? - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:33:25
                                                                                               Outlawing alcohol created a black market which - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:35:25
                                                                                          The 2nd amendment was meant to defend against a - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:30:54
                                                                                               Cool. Good luck in defeating the - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:32:50
                                                                                                    why is afghanistan still a country, fiji? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/9 21:19:35
                                                                                                    Why is it not logical, applicable, or relevant?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:35:30
                                                                                                    You know that the american public has more weaponry - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:33:51
                                                                                                         I'm saying good luck in your endeavors - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:37:07
                                                                                                              It's bizarre that anyone would think we should just submit - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 09:47:06
                                                                                                                   He won't admit it at all. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:47:31
                                                                                                              If I was alone. Luckily there are 100 million+gun owners - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:37:52
                                                                                                                   Hitler wasn't rounding up Germany, he was rounding up - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:40:36
                                                                                                                        He rounded up over 11 million of them. What was the - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:41:48
                                                                                                                             Like I said, this is too silly to treat as valid. Sorry (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:42:34
                                                                                                                                  He disarmed them and made it possible. Think. I know it's - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:43:24
                                                            no it doesn’t. (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 09:18:34
                    allowed is the wrong word choice - pickle MU - 8/9 08:49:50
                         Talking about behavior, not existing (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:53:06
                              So am i (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 08:54:10
                                   I was doing it using words that make sense - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:57:27
                                        Again, we do not exist at the permission of gvmt - pickle MU - 8/9 09:08:22
                                             You are allowed to exist, which is not what we - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:12:34
                                                  ok, so you’re in the pro-slavery column (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 09:19:32
                                                       I wasn't alive then (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:23:51
                                                       lol(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:22:32
                                                       lol(nm) - TigerA MU - 8/9 09:20:41
          It's bizarre people think that is bizarre (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:14:08
               Yeah man! I always carry at least 5 loaded guns on me - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 08:29:59
                    Hitler disarmed Germany, too. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:31:45
                         Background checks is not saying that you need to - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 08:35:10
                              This is the part some of you dont understand - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:38:29
                                   Cool, I'm not trying to stop criminals dead set on getting a - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 08:42:28
                              Pssst, I have done a background check for every weapon - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:37:32
                                   Fewer than 50% of gun purchases are subject to - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 08:43:52
                                        I don't have any problem with background checks. Most - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:48:22
                                             That's why there needs to be an age restriction - mizzouSECedes STL - 8/9 09:11:48
                                                  Lol, 35. You have to be 18 to own a rifle and 21 for - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:14:53
                                        Two things - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:45:29
                                             Just like a car.. - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 08:46:56
                                                  lol - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:49:28
                                                       Obviously some damages could never be fully - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 08:52:54
                                                            All kinds of recourse. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:54:58
                                                       LMAO(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:51:28
                                                       hahahahaha (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:50:03
                                                  RE: Just like a car.. - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:48:31
                                   Good... now get rid of the loopholes concerning background - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 08:41:07
                                        So someone can break in to my house, get in my night - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:43:04
                                             Is storing your weapon in your nightstand drawer - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 08:43:48
                                                  Mine is in a lockbox under my bed - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:55:34
                                                       I am going to get one of those fingerprint gun safes - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:56:55
                                                            Now thieves will know to cut off your finger first(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:59:33
                                                  Well if someone breaks in to my house at night, I doubt they - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:45:48
                                                       Fun fact... the 2nd amendment is for resisting the - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 09:16:12
                                                            I agree with that being the reason behind the 2nd amendment - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:17:59
                                                       The random break in excuse for needing a gun - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 08:47:27
                                                            Yea, home invasions don't happen all the time all over the - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:48:58
                                                                 They are exceedingly rare and almost never random. (nm) - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 08:53:20
                                                                      wut? - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:59:19
                                                                           My home was burgled too. - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 09:10:46
                                                                                Had you been home and he was all ****ed up on drugs, - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:11:23
                                                                                     Here's the things about junkies... - Da_Haze KC - 8/9 09:18:20
                                                                      I don't see how knowing my intruder should make me any - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:54:58
                                                       New rule - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:47:20
                              there should be more checks. (nm) - TigerA MU - 8/9 08:36:23
               How Bizarre - TigerA MU - 8/9 08:24:12
          not bizarre at all (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 08:09:49
          How often are those loaded weapons used - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:06:17
               Way too often. Only military and law enforcement should be - go tigers MU - 8/9 08:22:38
                    you’re an idiot (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 08:40:36
                    and people should have to registar with the gov't - tigerinhogtown STL - 8/9 08:26:19
                    So if I live in east BF, MO - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:24:30
                         I personally don't care if you own a gun or not - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:32:39
                              But it's the easiest - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:35:40
                                   Nothing a bucket loader - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:36:53
                              land mines!!!!(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:33:34
                                   Sure - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:34:47
                                        such as?(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:35:41
                                             If your argument is that an intruder has already - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:39:19
                                                  I am not a criminal but if I wanted to get in a house - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:52:55
                                                       I don't live in that part of the world, nor do I fear for my - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:56:48
                                                            I am the same - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:58:46
                                                                 I'm not an anti-gun person. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:14:27
                                                                      I don't think it's necessary. I don't know anyone who - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:15:21
                                                                           I know many gun owners that think its necessary - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:20:44
                                                                                I see not owning one as a gamble. The odds are - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:22:03
                                                            Yea, unless you are a millionaire, there aren't many houses - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:58:06
                                                                 Intruders typically go for the easiest target. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:03:54
                                                                      I have a Ring doorbell. No body ****ing with me (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:05:08
                                                                           I have a very good alarm system and a Ring doorbell. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:10:44
                                                                 If someone wanted to kill you, they also could - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:03:01
                                                                      Yes, that has nothing do with owning a gun though (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:06:24
                                                                           So if someone wanted to take the time to plan - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:08:34
                                                                                If I am in there and I have a gun, we're at least going - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:10:22
                                                                                     No, they would probably just shoot you and you would - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 09:15:05
                                                                                          I don't think Navy Seals are the ones breaking in to houses. - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:16:21
                                                                      correct (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:04:34
                                                  don't forget moats(nm) - TigerA MU - 8/9 08:39:59
                                                       That could be one of the "etc". (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:41:33
                                             You ever heard of a roundhouse kick to the face?(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 08:37:23
                                                  That can kill a person(nm) - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:37:53
                                             Kung Fu (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:36:56
                                        like hobbling? - TigerA MU - 8/9 08:35:40
                                        Lol, what a dumb statement (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:35:30
               Not really the point (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:09:33
                    Well...that is the counter point - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:12:09
                         Counter points are supposed - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:12:58
                              Not if the basis of the original point - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:15:55
                                   I acknowledge you don't, that is specifically - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:20:13
                                        there have been loaded guns throughout society - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:22:49
                                             That is the country I am referring to (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:23:43
                                             There have always been weapons to kill eachother. Always.(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:23:15
                                        Lol, oh man...oh man. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:21:00
                    do you have the same reaction about cops? (nm) - pickle MU - 8/9 08:10:22
                         Yes, I would prefer they not carry guns - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:12:28
                              Lol, that "level of technology". Yes, guns are so complex - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:17:55
                                   We need virtual stun guns - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:22:15
                                        This has been discussed on here with Fiji before - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:28:30
                                             Well I guess fiji better get to inventing (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:29:29
                                                  He does seem to have a point - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:31:10
                                                       When something renders you unconcious - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:35:13
                                                            I didn't say safe. I said "safer". - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:37:35
                                                            Nor should there be. If you mean to do harm with someone - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:36:42
                                                                 Fairly extreme point of view (nm) - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:41:04
                                                                      No it's not and the state of missouri backs me up. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:42:16
                                                                           No it doesn't. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:43:47
                                                                                If someone punches me and I fear for my life I can kill him(nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:46:12
                                                                                     You added an "and" to that statement. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 08:47:48
                                                                                          If you're looking to harm someone you should understand - Mizzmi27 MU - 8/9 08:58:13
                                                                                               I understand that completely. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:08:00
                                                                                                    I don't have to fear for my life. I just have to say I do. - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:13:00
                                                                                                         Ummmm, I just explained that exact scenario. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:17:04
                                                                                                              I am not saying I would...I am saying that it can happen. - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:18:46
                                                                                                                   But you’re ok if someone else killed someone that meant - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:22:28
                                                                                                                        Well, if they fear for their life I am. (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:25:19
                                                                                                                             But that's not what you originally said. - kmawv8 MU - 8/9 09:28:15
                                                                                                                                  Meaning harm can mean a lot of different things (nm) - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 09:29:22
                                                       Yea, and cancer should be cured. **** and one hand and - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:32:30
                                   They are not, its an 18th century technology at best - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:18:56
                                        You've obviously never held a gun (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:23:34
                                             Nor a spear, throwing star, or bazooka. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:24:35
                                                  How about a rock? (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:26:07
                                                       Yes. That is older than 18th century technology (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:26:57
                              So only criminals get to carry weapons - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:14:36
                                   Re-read the original post - FIJItiger MU - 8/9 08:18:09
                                        You changed the narrative - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:20:04
                                             You just got to think positive and then the criminals will - TheWildcat STL - 8/9 08:20:38
                                                  Give them a stress ball and a hug (nm) - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:21:32
                              cops don’t exist to keep the peace - pickle MU - 8/9 08:13:37
     By reading the article - meatiger MU - 8/9 08:01:39
     What is going through this moron's head? How could a person - tgr MU - 8/9 08:01:20
     If he was a little black kid holding a toy gun - MrBlueSky MU - 8/9 07:56:26
          Are you and fiji having a private competition - Hickeytime MU - 8/9 08:16:26
     What an odd post - pickle MU - 8/9 07:52:11
          Sorry, I was channeling my inner Tigrrrrr. I probably - StaleyTiger MU - 8/9 08:00:28
          the tolerant left(nm) - NWMizzouFan MU - 8/9 07:56:30
     So, too bad the fireman holding him at gunpoint didn't - Newcatbirdseat MU - 8/9 07:40:46




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