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If you ignore the effects of removing the insurance mandate

Posted on: December 2, 2017 at 22:34:41 CT

limenats MU

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and ignore the possible reduction in medicare and medicaid to offset the trillion dollar cut for the rich, then yes, you and I get a small tax cut.

But, you have to ignore those things and I prefer to be aware of the facts and the possibilities.

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How many "conservatives" on this board support the - limenats MU - 12/2 21:33:58

I used to care, but realized with liberals it didn't matter. - RHAYWORTH MU - 12/2 23:18:57

The One Party loves the absolute power of controlling the - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 12/3 07:51:04

Both the Senate & House tax bills will now be subject to - Butcher of Bakersfield STL - 12/2 22:31:37

"Oh & the Tax cuts will actually increase Federal Revenue" - molon labe MU - 12/3 00:11:42

the deficit is due to spending. Not taxes - Spanky KU - 12/2 22:23:33

yeah...and we saw what R did there - meatiger MU - 12/2 22:31:08

what is R? - Spanky KU - 12/3 07:23:27

yeah...and we saw what D did there DOUBLE IN 8 YRS - Coors4bob MU - 12/2 23:59:26

Don't worry hon, you got your high taxation write offs(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/2 21:42:20

It won't add a dime. Only spending does - tman KC - 12/2 21:39:20

There has never been a time in history when we had a tax cut - tiger4real MU - 12/2 21:37:49

I think I have a pretty good idea what it means to be a - limenats MU - 12/2 21:39:56

RE: I think I have a pretty good idea what it means to be a - tiger4real MU - 12/2 21:46:50

This is a 1.5 trillion dollar cut which will add - limenats MU - 12/2 21:48:14

You can’t use those numbers as if they’re certain - tiger4real MU - 12/2 21:56:09

They came from a second independent assessment requested by - limenats MU - 12/2 21:57:55

No one knows. - tiger4real MU - 12/2 21:59:49

I'd love for that money to be used to create jobs and - limenats MU - 12/2 22:01:33

and economists are nearly always wrong, especially when - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 09:51:16

government doesn't create jobs. people with capital do. - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 09:50:40

Economists are notoriously wrong. - tiger4real MU - 12/2 22:05:09

I agree that Republicans won. - limenats MU - 12/2 22:10:30

Unemployment is the lowest it’s been since early 2000s - tiger4real MU - 12/2 22:17:06

The government is going to continue to take your money and - limenats MU - 12/2 22:24:06

That’s not true. - tiger4real MU - 12/2 22:28:41

If you ignore the effects of removing the insurance mandate - limenats MU - 12/2 22:34:41

"trillion dollar cut for the rich" - which rich people? lik - 90Tiger MU - 12/3 10:03:10

Nobody wants to push burgers at McDonalds - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/2 22:11:40

Exactly. - limenats MU - 12/2 22:14:23

Those are the jobs that Obama brought(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/2 22:19:39

I disagree. - limenats MU - 12/2 22:27:29

You live on a budget, you will absolutely spend that extra - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/2 22:03:21

There won't be any extra money for me. Like almost all - limenats MU - 12/2 22:13:29

I’m not sure many Americans will end up paying more - tiger4real MU - 12/2 22:19:42

It's a tax cut but also a repeal of the individual mandate. - limenats MU - 12/2 22:30:54

No, as a % of Income, it’s roughly the same for everyone - tiger4real MU - 12/2 22:38:35

I don't really understand what you are saying. - limenats MU - 12/2 22:46:22

You’re talking politics, I’m talking economics - tiger4real MU - 12/2 22:50:30

If you're talking economics, rather than politics, - limenats MU - 12/2 22:54:53

Tax reform was probably #1on Trump’s agenda - tiger4real MU - 12/2 22:58:49

What makes you think this is a popular bill? - limenats MU - 12/2 23:03:57

It’s really simple. Trump won the election. - tiger4real MU - 12/2 23:13:48

RE: This is a 1.5 billion dollar cut which will add - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 12/2 21:52:45

Good catch. - limenats MU - 12/2 21:57:00

But yeah... - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 12/2 22:01:15

Conservatives always care about the debt. - limenats MU - 12/2 22:02:33

RE: Conservatives always care about the debt. - mizzoumurfkc MU

- 12/2 22:04:32

You mad, bro? (nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/2 21:37:33

No more than anyone else I suppose. - limenats MU - 12/2 21:45:07

You guys love to get the F taxed out of you and b*tch - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/2 21:47:48

What do you mean by "you guys"? - limenats MU - 12/2 21:49:01

You ignorant liberals(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/2 21:49:38

If you want to be thoughtful, think about what it means to - limenats MU - 12/2 21:55:22

So, I'll ask again. Do you support the Senate tax plan? - limenats MU - 12/2 21:52:19

You're going to be paying the same taxes as liberals(nm) - TheShoe STL - 12/2 21:52:17

So, they will secretly really be happy in January?(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/2 21:54:01

I would not anticipate that(nm) - TheShoe STL - 12/2 21:54:40

It's the same way they run to H and R Block to save - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/2 21:56:03

lol, who the **** uses strip mall tax preparation?(nm) - TheShoe STL - 12/2 21:58:03

OK...OR a CPA firm(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/2 21:59:03

what are you asking me again?(nm) - TheShoe STL - 12/2 22:03:07