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Posted on: January 10, 2017 at 08:45:52 CT
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perception problem. The college basketball world sees us as having given up on men's basketball and views our current approach and our tolerance of the cratering of our program as a joke. The levels of apathy of our fanbase are astonishing, we have no recruiting pipeline at all, and the overwhelming losing has reached simply previously unthinkable levels.

We are going to have to significantly overpay to get candidates to listen, and have an understanding that this is a HUGE rebuild that will be a large and long undertaking. I've always been a steadfast proponent that Kim shouldn't be fired. The decision should be his, and he should have quit a long time ago.

But it is becoming readily apparent he will not do what is right for the program and cares more about collecting all the money. I'm starting to change my opinion. For MU to get serious candidates to consider this job opening, it might be a good tactic to fire him based on lack of merit midseason and make a very strong public stance that such levels of failure are not acceptable and MU still intends to field a real program under this new AD's leadership. That we do actually have expectations and can recognize and react to mistakes rather than just tread water living with them.

I'm not sure when the right time will be, likely when it is apparent that the team is mailing it in to the same degree as the staff, but at that point if Kim still refuses to do the right thing then I think I would be on board with him being fired. As long as it is handled properly and clearly stated he is being fired for incompetence and cratering a program, and that MU basketball has expectations and intends to compete nationally. I think such a chain of events would really help our coaching search and make our opening more viable.

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When we make a hire, we are going to be facing a big - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 08:45:52
     nope. - alwaysright MU - 1/10 16:11:23
     Way over thinking it !! - raskolnikov MU - 1/10 10:44:38
     Missouri ended up with Haith because better coaches - alstl MU - 1/10 10:41:43
          Not true, Alden is just an idiot.(nm) - Uncle John KC - 1/10 11:00:30
     We'll be fine(nm) - Eggs MU - 1/10 10:15:58
     Assuming Kim turns the corner next year - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 1/10 09:37:52
          Yes - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 1/10 09:52:44
          I wouldn't assume that, given it has 0% chance of - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:38:52
               How the - chokingmychickenhawk MU - 1/10 09:53:30
                    I follow MU basketball. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:55:44
                         Good for you, do you want a cookie? - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/10 10:10:15
                              No, that is the answer to his question (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 10:24:50
                                   Just shut up(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/10 10:43:39
     Our problems didn't start with Kim Anderson - XRob MU - 1/10 09:30:59
          No, actually they did. That is the problem (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:31:38
               Week night games have always had many empty seats in the - Uncle John KC - 1/10 11:02:36
               You're myopic - XRob MU - 1/10 09:38:56
                    No it hasn't, and I don't hate Kim Anderson - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:40:50
               feefer didn't take her meds this morning, being rather - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/10 09:35:48
                    Sorry, Anderson had the place jumping...KA is a death knell - tigertix MU - 1/10 09:38:31
                         That makes no sense and I wasn't talking to you anyway(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/10 09:47:16
     At the end of January. - Shrine Devine MU - 1/10 09:28:26
     I bet almost none of the - GA Tiger MU - 1/10 09:12:45
          College coaches do, those are the important characters in - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:13:48
               I doubt if most take the time in a busy job to keep track - GA Tiger MU - 1/10 09:18:08
                    I think many, many coaches privately think its pretty - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:28:05
               College coaches also note unusual things - tman KC - 1/10 09:15:48
                    That is my hope, ideally they will take notice and see - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:17:01
                         It is almost universally view poorly - tman KC - 1/10 09:20:38
                              This isn't a typical situation - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:24:16
                                   It is typical. Coach isn't cutting it and is - tman KC - 1/10 11:23:05
     I'm not sure I completely agree, FIJI - o'lineydisciple MU - 1/10 09:07:13
          RE: I'm not sure I completely agree, FIJI - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:12:36
               How much is Barnes making at UT? I'm surprised with how good - Uncle John KC - 1/10 09:17:57
                    This may not be fully up to date, but is likely close: - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:19:48
                         SO were gonna have to pay $2 mil + - sharpwp UNC - 1/10 10:11:53
                    $2.25 mil. And I wouldn't be ordaining him at #2 yet - TigerUppercut MU - 1/10 09:19:13
                         That's why I'm surprised. He did struggle at Texas in the - Uncle John KC - 1/10 09:24:49
          all very reasonable and seemingly true(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 1/10 09:11:00
          I agree with your take on this. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 1/10 09:09:21
               Fiji's woe is me story about Mizzou is just him spinning BS - TigerUppercut MU - 1/10 09:11:41
     I think you may be exaggerating in a few parts of your post. - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 1/10 09:06:53
          RE: I think you may be exaggerating in a few parts of your post. - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:10:16
               So you don't think making the NCAA tourney by year three - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 1/10 09:13:39
                    I think it is a goal, not sure I see it as realistic goal - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:14:54
                         Time will tell, I guess. A lot of that depends on how good - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 1/10 09:16:43
                              I think with a very good hire, we should be back in the - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:18:29
                                   Fair enough.(nm) - GeorgiaTiger76 MU - 1/10 09:19:50
                                        Fiji is setting up to give a new coach more time yet Kim - sprintcar STL - 1/10 10:58:51
                                             Only if he is competant. If he is identifiable as - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 11:11:41
          Yep - TigerUppercut MU - 1/10 09:08:31
     Agreed, but you also need to clean house in the AD of all - tigertix MU - 1/10 09:01:04
          Alden did that when he hired Quin so the new coach - Doc James USA - 1/10 09:04:57
               A large group of people will feel like KA was smited by the - tigertix MU - 1/10 09:14:59
                    Anyone who feels that way is in denial. - sharpwp UNC - 1/10 10:00:32
          I think that is likely a good idea as well (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:03:05
          The AD that hired Kim is gone - TigerUppercut MU - 1/10 09:01:48
     That's why we'll have to either over-pay or hire a - tigerdb MU - 1/10 08:52:25
          Yep. Best case is we get Crean after Indiana fires him.(nm) - tgr MU - 1/10 08:53:54
               Didn't realize he was so bad there the first 3 years - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/10 08:59:06
                    Sampson left him a considerable mess, it was very similar - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:02:34
                         I love how you always make excuses for guys like him haha(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/10 09:13:19
                              I like to put things in proper and accurate context (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 09:15:20
                                   No, you like to put your ridiculous spin on most things - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/10 09:16:10
     how do you parent your child when they lose their rec league - Doc James USA - 1/10 08:51:00
          I don't follow. Are you comparing - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 08:51:56
               No, how do you deal with adversity with your child when - Doc James USA - 1/10 08:53:47
                    No, its a kids game. And my kids aren't failures - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 08:57:55
                         No, the program is cratered because of Kim, they have - Doc James USA - 1/10 09:04:13
     The college basketball world couldn't care a less about - Uncle John KC - 1/10 08:48:47
          Agreed, not anymore - FIJItiger MU - 1/10 08:50:19




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