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RE: Thanks. That sounds like a pretty reasonable position.

Posted on: August 18, 2025 at 22:30:04 CT

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oh, would definitely add that there needs to be encouragement of open and fair elections. and push for freedoms of their people to increase. But at least respect other countries around them.

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Security guarantees - El-ahrairah BAMA - 8/18 18:55:25

they were always going to be somebody's vassal state(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 8/19 07:57:34

That would make them vaselines i think. Not sure. nm - hokie VT - 8/19 08:44:27

RE: Security guarantees: Details matter. They're referring - BH O'bonga MU - 8/19 05:44:06

How is that different from article 5? Sounds like the ukes - hokie VT - 8/19 05:55:51

RE: How is that different from article 5? Sounds like the ukes - BH O'bonga MU - 8/19 06:48:55

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- 8/18 22:06:31

Pretty good plan, jeff. IMO, we can help the Ukes by - hokie VT - 8/19 05:41:40

going back to the old cold war - meatiger MU - 8/18 22:13:33

I'm not sure I understand your position. Are you in favor of - JeffB MU

- 8/18 22:16:20

RE: I'm not sure I understand your position. Are you in favor of - meatiger MU - 8/18 22:21:33

it was lazy snark and naive (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/19 09:20:16

Thanks. That sounds like a pretty reasonable position. - JeffB MU

- 8/18 22:25:58

RE: Thanks. That sounds like a pretty reasonable position. - meatiger MU - 8/18 22:30:04

Open and fair elections is actually one of the demands of - JeffB MU

- 8/18 22:34:55

RE: Open and fair elections is actually one of the demands of - meatiger MU - 8/18 23:09:52

Several countries already agreed to protect them for giving - tman MU - 8/18 19:46:34

RE: Several countries already agreed to protect them for giving - Ozland Tiger LSU - 8/18 20:54:03

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