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Obama & Biden intentionally antagonized Russia,

Posted on: August 14, 2025 at 17:31:53 CT
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instigating this war.

The Mess that Nuland Made
https://consortiumnews.com/2015/07/13/the-mess-that-nuland-made/

https://x.com/liz_churchill10/status/1886163624193823018
“USAID is a CIA front that used $5B in 2014 to ignite a Colour Revolution in Ukraine. Victoria Nuland picked the new Government a month before the old Government was overthrown…” -RFK Jr.

Nuland admits west killed Ukraine peace deal in '22....
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Putin Hints At Expected Nuclear Arms Treaty Breakthrough - JeffB MU - 8/14 16:25:29
     He is playing Trump and the US(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/14 16:29:24
          Here's Joe Biden on the Russian invasion - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 17:49:18
               It wasn’t a minor incursion (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/14 18:38:55
                    That’s the point, how does anyone know what - Outsider MU - 8/14 19:02:01
                    ya think? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 19:00:28
                         Which leads to the question - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:01:40
                              It gave Putin a green light to invade, did it not? (nm) - Outsider MU - 8/14 19:03:00
                                   Nah. (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:06:06
                                        well, did "don't" stop him? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 19:08:07
                                             No. (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:13:41
                                        Putin seems to disagree. (nm) - Outsider MU - 8/14 19:06:53
                                             Why woud I care what Putin thinks? (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:08:04
                                                  You don’t. Seems odd you are in this discussion. (nm) - Outsider MU - 8/14 19:10:04
                                                       Why are Biden’s comments - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:13:12
                                                            oh, it happened, just not how Biden perceived it. You're - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 19:23:57
                                                                 RE: oh, it happened, just not how Biden perceived it. You're - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:27:16
                                                                      RE: oh, it happened, just not how Biden perceived it. You're - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 19:32:36
                                                                           Let’s just stipulate - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:34:43
                                                                                So anything short of that is good…right? (nm) - Outsider MU - 8/14 19:37:23
                                                                                     Irrelevant - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:38:19
                                                                                          The US told Putin we were good with his invasion, but - Outsider MU - 8/14 19:41:34
                                                                                               more critically, did putin know what terrible consequence wo - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 19:43:48
                                                                                                    You’d have done what - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:46:25
                                                                                                         Gosh, I don't know haeff, what should Trump do, Threaten - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 20:26:24
                                                                                                              My position here - haeffb MU - 8/14 20:34:54
                                                                                                                   No, the real point was that Biden was willing to accept a - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 20:46:32
                                                                                                         So what do you expect Trump to do? Honor the deal - Outsider MU - 8/14 19:49:58
                                                                                                         Meatedit. (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:47:46
                                                                                Everyone knows that other than Joe Biden, heaff (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 19:36:50
                                                                                     RE: Everyone knows that other than Joe Biden, heaff (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:37:49
                                                            Oh, well clearly you have a take no one has considered… - Outsider MU - 8/14 19:15:09
                                                                 Oh well clearly you aren’t capable of answering - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:16:33
                                                                      I’m sorry, don’t mean to be difficult. What question? (nm) - Outsider MU - 8/14 19:18:55
                                                                           Sigh. Never mind. (nm) - haeffb MU - 8/14 19:21:19
                                                                                that's what i thought when you typed this - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 19:28:06
                                                                                That’s what I thought. (nm) - Outsider MU - 8/14 19:22:36
                                                  Well, he's currently engaged in a 3 year war with Ukraine - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 19:09:38
               Of course he did. So Putin is only taking what Biden said - Outsider MU - 8/14 17:53:17
               so i ask - how did joe biden held Vlad accountable? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 17:50:00
          Trump has been desperately trying to distract for weeks - Macgrantt MU - 8/14 17:19:10
               ^^CPE(nm) - Panthera MU - 8/14 17:57:25
               man, you're pretty broken. this war happened on biden's wa - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 17:42:50
                    You're tangential & demented, wasn't talking about a war - Macgrantt MU - 8/14 18:00:26
                         Is tangential a new word you just learned? - Calca STL - 8/14 19:02:27
                         read the OP, creampie. your post stated trump is only meeti - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 18:26:42
               When Biden said he was good with a “minor incursion,” - Outsider MU - 8/14 17:28:54
                    Your post is tangential to my post. Do you even read others? - Macgrantt MU - 8/14 18:01:39
                         RE: Your post is tangential to my post. Do you even read others? - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 18:26:55
                              AND, you don't know what "tangential" means (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 18:27:09
                                   Of course not, it's only been part of my mental status exam - Macgrantt MU - 8/14 21:07:17
                                        it's good you found god and the humility, generosity, compa - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 21:39:10
                                             It's God not god, illiterate, Godless, chromogen - Macgrantt MU - 8/14 22:18:03
                                                  it isn't "God" to me; I'm not a hypocrite. Thinking that - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 22:44:57
                         So you have no clue what Joe said Putin could take? (nm) - Outsider MU - 8/14 18:09:05
                              A post about DJT distracting has 0 to do with Biden - Macgrantt MU - 8/14 18:13:24
                                   Reminds me of when you try to distract people from stage 3(nm) - Calca STL - 8/14 19:03:32
                                   I just find it curious that you people want to blame - Outsider MU - 8/14 18:27:54
                                        Who's you people? I'm not Black. - Macgrantt MU - 8/14 21:14:29
                                   RE: A post about DJT distracting has 0 to do with Biden - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 18:27:23
               Speculating on alternative motives a president may have - JeffB MU - 8/14 17:26:33
          RE: He is playing Trump and the US(nm) - Breadtruck MU - 8/14 17:06:45
          How did those Putin/Biden negotiations go? (nm) - Outsider MU - 8/14 16:45:56
               Guess is that Biden would not meet with wanted war criminal(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/14 17:18:51
                    effective, clearly. War started with biden in office and ra - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 17:43:49
                    He would ask for an ice cream if he did. Of course he - JeffB MU - 8/14 17:34:02
          In what way? If you were president, or king, and could - JeffB MU - 8/14 16:37:43
               Yes I fight against Totalitarian aggression and no . . . - raskolnikov MU - 8/14 16:44:18
                    So Biden gave the ok to Putin to invade… - Outsider MU - 8/14 17:38:50
                    LOL! You’re an absolute authoritarian whose only problem - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 8/14 17:04:42
                         I grew up in a world dominated by WWII, not fascist fans(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 8/14 17:19:47
                              I did too. Is there some point you’re trying to make? - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 8/14 17:53:43
                              Did you know that there are a significant number of actual - JeffB MU - 8/14 17:28:03
                    that's an horrific, immoral, unsustainable, Dick Cheney answ - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 16:53:18
                         That would be "a horrific" not "an horrific" and it is mine - raskolnikov MU - 8/14 16:57:29
                              I'm old school with my English at times, nanny (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 8/14 20:47:17
                              He's pointing out that you and Dick Cheney - Wildcat KSU - 8/14 17:02:11
                                   If Cheney thinks that expansionist Totalitarians should be - raskolnikov MU - 8/14 17:21:01
                                        Obama & Biden intentionally antagonized Russia, - JeffB MU - 8/14 17:31:53
                    Ukraine was getting its butt kicked despite hundreds of - JeffB MU - 8/14 16:50:11
                         That is simply false - raskolnikov MU - 8/14 16:56:28
                              That's not what multiple military experts are saying from - JeffB MU - 8/14 17:00:53
                              You do understand - Wildcat KSU - 8/14 16:59:44
                    Your just making up what you want to be true. - GODZILLA MU - 8/14 16:47:09
                         Like what I am "just making up" and being anti-war does not - raskolnikov MU - 8/14 16:58:49
                              You’re not anti war(nm) - Panthera MU - 8/14 18:40:04
                              It's not your nation - Wildcat KSU - 8/14 17:00:23
                                   Why is he acting like an invasion of a country is a big deal - Outsider MU - 8/14 17:10:16
                                        Should the world battle against all nations involved in - JeffB MU - 8/14 17:18:07
                                        It's quite the pretzel - Wildcat KSU - 8/14 17:16:42
                    How was Russia on its heels? - Wildcat KSU - 8/14 16:45:12
                         RE: How was Russia on its heels? - raskolnikov MU - 8/14 17:00:02




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