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He also doesn’t like using the word “luck”
Posted on: February 23, 2024 at 11:19:21 CT
wu-tangtiger
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Mizzou basketball seasons since 2006, by Kenpom ranking...
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zounami
MU
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2/23 10:56:12
What I took from these #s is that KA improved every year nm
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MOKE
MU
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2/23 12:19:51
POTD
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No Depression
MU
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2/23 14:10:59
Yes---in 100 years he would have been average (nm)
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mu7176grad
MU
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2/23 12:51:18
His teams probably would've been better than Gates' current
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zounami
MU
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2/23 12:31:13
That is incorrect
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quicksand
MU
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2/23 17:43:34
Welp
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JayHoaxH8r
MU
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2/23 14:26:11
RE: Welp
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DevilsAdvocate
KC
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2/24 06:24:53
There is a near zero chance of that
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 13:03:33
KA still beat Bruce Pearl.(nm)
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SuperTone
MU
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2/23 13:52:30
His Natty ring says otherwise.
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gaber c.
MU
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2/23 13:42:27
He defeated West Liberty in that game, prevailing over the
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 14:18:22
He stood alone at the top over 300+ teams and
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gaber c.
MU
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2/23 14:50:27
Well he totally sucked and was in over his head at MU
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 14:55:07
Your buddy Haith is the guy who sucked like a Hoover
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gaber c.
MU
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2/23 15:20:36
He was NCOY at MU and won a Big 12 championship
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 15:25:51
RE: He was NCOY at MU and won a Big 12 championship
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gaber c.
MU
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2/23 15:35:20
You missed out, that was a fun team to watch
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 15:40:43
Honoring cheating slimeballs while pooping all over
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gaber c.
MU
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2/23 15:43:04
Its weird right? Its like Fiji was sodomized by the
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SabertoothTiger
MU
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2/23 16:09:51
Not weird, I’m a big MU bb fan
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 16:20:45
Your cheating allegations are totally unfounded and made up
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 16:07:40
again, who where these big donors KA had in his pocket?(nm)
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TigerA
MU
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2/23 12:37:13
If there had been NIL, they would have magically appeared
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hou4mu
MU
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2/23 13:53:05
If given enough time he would have elevated MU
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 12:25:00
Haith inherited a solid roster
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gaber c.
MU
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2/23 12:46:03
Haith cratered Mizzou. That and football saving a life
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TigerFan92
STL
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2/23 14:38:57
Haith did not crater Mizzou (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/23 15:05:02
He absolutely brought in malcontents and freaks because
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TigerFan92
STL
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2/23 16:08:38
KA failed on his own
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/23 16:30:21
Kim Anderson inherited a house of cards with
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alwaysright
MU
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2/23 17:32:22
KA couldn’t recruit at a level to succeed in the SEC
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/23 17:37:32
Assume you are a Kim fan and not an MU fan, what a
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 13:01:20
I was and remain a Kim fan as a person
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quicksand
MU
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2/23 17:59:48
It's all truth
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gaber c.
MU
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2/23 13:38:59
College bb is mostly a crap product and a dying sport
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 14:21:40
it's interesting how College FB continues to increase in
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zounami
MU
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2/23 14:29:11
NBA is in decline because it’s not a real sport, but rather
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alwaysright
MU
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2/23 15:04:09
The NBA would tell you that their popularity
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/23 17:39:24
good points (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/23 15:07:42
Bball money is irrelevant
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ChinaTiger
KC
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2/23 13:49:52
RE: Mizzou basketball seasons since 2006, by Kenpom ranking...
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Frank Poncherello
MU
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2/23 12:02:10
RE: Mizzou basketball seasons since 2006, by Kenpom ranking...
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semotiger83
MU
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2/23 14:32:08
He didn’t (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/23 12:03:09
RE: He didn’t (nm)
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Frank Poncherello
MU
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2/23 12:03:54
A narrative arose after he left that he quit recruiting at
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 12:14:41
That’s right (nm)
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/23 12:14:01
Interesting 2010 is that high, intuitively I wouldn’t have
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 11:24:43
"luck" lol(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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2/23 11:11:11
“Error” (nm)
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haeffb
MU
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2/23 13:30:21
For things that involve probabilities / chance, the
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zounami
MU
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2/23 13:52:35
Basketball games don’t involve probabilities/chance (nm)
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haeffb
MU
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2/23 16:11:27
Error in the model(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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2/23 13:51:06
not if the model predicted the *most likely* outcome...
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zounami
MU
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2/23 13:56:46
It doesn’t (nm)
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haeffb
MU
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2/23 16:12:44
Not true at all
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meatiger
MU
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2/23 14:04:11
yes, it models luck... if you don't like the name then
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zounami
MU
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2/23 11:17:22
go back to "popping your pimples with the protractor
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SabertoothTiger
MU
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2/23 13:14:31
RE: yes, it models luck... if you don't like the name then
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meatiger
MU
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2/23 12:31:00
What would be '"lucky" for all of us is if zounami
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SabertoothTiger
MU
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2/23 13:12:49
He also doesn’t like using the word “luck”
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wu-tangtiger
MU
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2/23 11:19:21
but he does, because there's no better way to describe it...
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zounami
MU
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2/23 11:52:53
It largely is a description of margin of victory or loss
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KC rules
MU
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2/23 12:00:58
The problem with your contention is that there's no...
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zounami
MU
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2/23 12:08:42
I get that but we have lost 13 straight and 16 straight to
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KC rules
MU
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2/23 12:53:44
RE: I get that but we have lost 13 straight and 16 straight to
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meatiger
MU
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2/23 13:01:55
RE: I get that but we have lost 13 straight and 16 straight to
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KC rules
MU
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2/23 13:07:07
Kenpom is a predictive model, it attempts to project
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 12:19:11
Yes, that's how luck works. For example, if you flip a coin
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zounami
MU
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2/23 12:26:41
thanks for explaining how coin flipping works and the odds
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TigerA
MU
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2/23 12:51:41
it's an analogy... "luck" is the difference between the
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zounami
MU
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2/23 13:00:33
The actual outcome is not chance(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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2/23 13:02:26
no, chance is involved in every play & outcome...
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zounami
MU
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2/23 13:14:26
It is not chance. It is execution
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meatiger
MU
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2/23 13:44:59
why do you think a 90% free throw shooter misses
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zounami
MU
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2/23 14:00:19
He does not miss one out of every 10
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meatiger
MU
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2/23 14:11:39
1 out of every 10 on average... and you mention mental state
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zounami
MU
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2/23 14:23:50
It is the reality
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meatiger
MU
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2/23 14:28:18
Incorrectness in the model is error by definition. (nm)
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haeffb
MU
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2/23 15:59:20
if the model is actually incorrect, i.e., not forecasting...
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zounami
MU
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2/23 21:09:57
It is actually incorrect.
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haeffb
MU
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2/24 05:30:06
It could be argued there is no chance in anything. That
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SabertoothTiger
MU
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2/23 13:17:54
No
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meatiger
MU
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2/23 12:49:31
why would you exclude the KA years? you excluding the best
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TigerA
MU
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2/23 11:01:23
MU wasn’t fielding a serious program in that era, I would
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 11:27:54
indeed (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/23 12:11:48
given our "success" this year, i'm suprised we aren't lower(nm)
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TigerA
MU
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2/23 11:29:25
There's a reason for that...
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zounami
MU
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2/23 12:11:12
As an example, in 2015 Kim inherited the noncon that
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FIJItiger
MU
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2/23 11:34:57
I didn't. They're in there. (nm)
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zounami
MU
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2/23 11:01:34
you said "f you exclude the Kim Anderson outliers". why
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TigerA
MU
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2/23 11:02:45
keyword "if"... it's a hypothetical... and it's not uncommon
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zounami
MU
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2/23 11:07:26
Nice job putting Kim's years in the most illegible color
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hou4mu
MU
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2/23 12:16:21