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Posted on: February 9, 2024 at 13:11:17 CT
BigDave MU
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We Americans are all about the Constitution as written. The 4th and 5th Amendments matter. Not only has Trump never been convicted of insurrection, he's never even been charged with it. That is why states don't get to exclude him from the ballot because they just magically want him to be guilty of insurrection without any due process.
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Assume for a second that the scotus votes 9–0 on the - hokie VT - 2/9 10:54:08
     2024 has been a bad year for the dems, so far. The past few - BH O'bonga MU - 2/9 11:31:22
          Be careful what you wish for. If the socialists get a sane - hokie VT - 2/9 15:17:04
          He's fine to be president - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:45:00
     Remember when Rs were all about states rights? Good times(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:03:26
          Incorrect - BigDave MU - 2/9 13:11:17
               wrong (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 16:35:51
          States do not have the right to misinterpret/ignore - Spanky KU - 2/9 11:32:43
               that doesn’t mean what you think it means (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:46:58
                    You is dumb - Spanky KU - 2/9 12:50:06
                         no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 13:08:25
               Where in the US constitution does it say a state cant bar - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:35:41
                    The states are misapplying the 14th Amendment - Spanky KU - 2/9 11:46:35
                         But, but, but..... - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 12:09:39
                              don’t hitch yourself to Spanky - pickle MU - 2/9 12:22:37
                                   You is dumb.... The CO case hinges on the 14th - Spanky KU - 2/9 12:49:27
                                        no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 12:56:39
                                             yes. - Spanky KU - 2/9 13:16:40
                                                  no. both the 14th and Article II are irrelevant (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 13:36:15
                                                       wrong - Spanky KU - 2/9 14:49:47
                                                            no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 15:18:09
                         This is my guess is it will be decided against Colorado - MUTGR MU - 2/9 11:49:55
                         Nope. Most states bar anyone with a felony conviction from - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:48:32
                              Which states bar a felon for running for federal office?(nm) - Spanky KU - 2/9 12:01:28
                                   Missouri does. Unless you are sying that US House and Senate - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 12:08:28
                                        What is a federal office? - Spanky KU - 2/9 12:48:30
                         no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:47:07
                    Don't argue with people here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:46:04
                         then cite the Article, Section, and Clause - pickle MU - 2/9 11:47:42
                         Thats the point. You want it both ways depending on which - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:47:00
                              No, I realize the founders did not grant unlimited - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:48:23
                                   False. You’re completely backwards - pickle MU - 2/9 11:57:00
                                   ^^^Believes in states rights. lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:49:11
                                        Yes I do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:50:28
                                             you certainly do not (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:57:19
                                             Yet the US Const doesnt address state elections at all - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:51:43
          So you agree with the states controlling abortion right - TGR84 MU - 2/9 11:21:15
               yes(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:21:40
          Remember when Dems had a brain? - Spanky KU - 2/9 11:19:53
          Do you believe a state could reimplement slavery - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:16:30
               No because state constitutions prohibit indentured servitude - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:18:32
                    What about female suffrage? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:20:05
                         The State Supreme Court - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:20:43
                              So you believe states could reinstate slavery and remove - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:22:04
                                   No because no state const. allows indentured servitude(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:22:28
                                        Do all states prohibit it? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:23:50
                                             yes. all state constitutions do. We can do your hypothetical - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:25:15
                                                  Also - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:27:34
                                                  I am not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:27:04
                                                       Actually, the founders set it up so that each state operates - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:28:55
                                                            They may - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:42:19
                                                                 "Typically for criminal punishments or debt payments" - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:44:53
                                                                      You made the claim - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:46:34
                                                                           No you didnt. You found a stupid definition of servitude to - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:50:30
                                                                 So if the US Constitution ruled all - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:44:44
                                                                      Many states will write what is superceding federal - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:47:18
                                                       you don't know what the founders did or didn't do - ashtray UF - 2/9 11:28:45
          I assume my question was too difficult for you. That's OK, - hokie VT - 2/9 11:08:59
          I remember. And when they did that, the media and socialists - hokie VT - 2/9 11:05:33
               oh boo hoo. Is that what made Rs abandon it?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:06:07
          I am totally in favor of state's rights - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:04:45
               Then you are not at all in favor of State's rights(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:18:44
                    Of course I am - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:20:50
                         the US Constitution is written for the Federal Government - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:21:37
                              States can do what they wish - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:22:40
                                   false (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:57:45
                                   Not true - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:25:29
                                        You are free to think what you wish to think - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:27:56
               Colorado isn’t acting counter to the constitution - pickle MU - 2/9 11:11:04
                    I think the SC will decide otherwise - mu7176grad MU - 2/9 11:17:05
                         tell me about HOAs and the first amendment again - pickle MU - 2/9 11:20:37
               so states can't secede by your own logic (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/9 11:08:12
                    I guess any state could say they wish to no longer abide by - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:10:17
                         not by your logic - ashtray UF - 2/9 11:10:38
                              But it would not keep them from trying to do it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:12:08
                                   so you're not totally in favor of state's rights (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/9 11:22:28
                                        I am - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:24:34
                                             you aren't - ashtray UF - 2/9 11:25:19
                                                  Just like he believes in freedom - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:31:59
               Then you are not in favor of states rights(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:05:13
                    CO does not have the right to nullify my vote. - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:06:31
                         no one is nullifying your vote (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:13:08
                              Elections are a system of interlocking outcomes. - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:14:08
                                   nope. That is both incorrect and illogical. - pickle MU - 2/9 11:21:04
                         Do you live in CO?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:06:57
                              I live in TX but they can nullify my vote - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:09:47
                                   lmfao no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:13:32
                                   goddam you are dumb. CO primary doesnt affect you in TX - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:10:59
                                        Of course it does. Elections are a system - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:13:11
                                             OMG, lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:13:55
                                                  LOL does no make your logic correct. - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:35:50
                                                       SCOTUS has been and will be wrong again(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:37:12
                    I am - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:06:27
                         it’s not a constitutional issue (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:12:23
                         lol, It is you that doesnt know what states rights is(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:07:25
                              The more you post, the more you demonstrate - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:08:21
     it’s a federal overreach. not surprised you don’t get that (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 10:56:41
          CO does not have the right to nullify my vote. - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:07:15
               they didn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:08:46
     I get a kick out of those saying the SCOTUS should have - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 10:56:29
          How is it a missapplication? - meatiger MU - 2/9 10:59:28
               There is federal oversight of federal elections - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:03:43
                    100% wrong. this is not counter to the constitution (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:08:18
                    There is no federal oversight of elections(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:04:35
                         There are laws regarding who can and cannot run - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:05:37
                              There is no federal oversight of elections(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:06:31
                                   Of course there is. - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:08:29
                                        No there isnt. The FEC has no authority whatsoever to - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:12:47
                                        nope (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:11:51
                                   But SCOTUS can and should rule on the Consitutionality - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:07:46
                                        Actually, the parties decide who reresents them in general - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:10:03
                                             And in this case the state is trying to tell the parties who - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:11:03
                                                  No it isn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:21:39
                                                  Now you are learining. Its not a federal election issue(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:13:33
                                                       It is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:15:08
                                                            Nope. It cited state law not federal law because federal - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:17:26
                                                                 Wow - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:18:55
                                                                      I did and the justices were overreaching IMO(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:19:48
                                                                           And an educated opinion is not of much value - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:25:32
                                                                                I assure you that I am much more of an elections expert - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:27:08
                                                                                     You clearly aren't an expert of state constitutions - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:44:12
                                                                                          Prisons. Not an individual owning another. Next(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:46:03
                                                                                               You are now offering clarificaitons - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:49:09
                                                                                                    Slavery isnt prisons. It is a person owning another. You - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:53:16
                                                                                     4tigs works in the medical industry - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:32:52
          no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 10:57:13




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