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Posted on: February 9, 2024 at 11:46:04 CT
4TigersinMichigan
MU
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using the US Constitution. You know. State's rights and stuff.
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Assume for a second that the scotus votes 9–0 on the
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hokie
VT
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2/9 10:54:08
2024 has been a bad year for the dems, so far. The past few
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BH O'bonga
MU
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2/9 11:31:22
Be careful what you wish for. If the socialists get a sane
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hokie
VT
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2/9 15:17:04
He's fine to be president
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:45:00
Remember when Rs were all about states rights? Good times(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:03:26
Incorrect
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BigDave
MU
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2/9 13:11:17
wrong (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 16:35:51
States do not have the right to misinterpret/ignore
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Spanky
KU
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2/9 11:32:43
that doesn’t mean what you think it means (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:46:58
You is dumb
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Spanky
KU
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2/9 12:50:06
no (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 13:08:25
Where in the US constitution does it say a state cant bar
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:35:41
The states are misapplying the 14th Amendment
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Spanky
KU
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2/9 11:46:35
But, but, but.....
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 12:09:39
don’t hitch yourself to Spanky
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pickle
MU
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2/9 12:22:37
You is dumb.... The CO case hinges on the 14th
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Spanky
KU
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2/9 12:49:27
no (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 12:56:39
yes.
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Spanky
KU
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2/9 13:16:40
no. both the 14th and Article II are irrelevant (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 13:36:15
wrong
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Spanky
KU
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2/9 14:49:47
no (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 15:18:09
This is my guess is it will be decided against Colorado
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MUTGR
MU
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2/9 11:49:55
Nope. Most states bar anyone with a felony conviction from
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:48:32
Which states bar a felon for running for federal office?(nm)
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Spanky
KU
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2/9 12:01:28
Missouri does. Unless you are sying that US House and Senate
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 12:08:28
What is a federal office?
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Spanky
KU
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2/9 12:48:30
no (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:47:07
Don't argue with people here
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:46:04
then cite the Article, Section, and Clause
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:47:42
Thats the point. You want it both ways depending on which
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:47:00
No, I realize the founders did not grant unlimited
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:48:23
False. You’re completely backwards
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:57:00
^^^Believes in states rights. lol(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:49:11
Yes I do
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:50:28
you certainly do not (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:57:19
Yet the US Const doesnt address state elections at all
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:51:43
So you agree with the states controlling abortion right
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TGR84
MU
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2/9 11:21:15
yes(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:21:40
Remember when Dems had a brain?
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Spanky
KU
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2/9 11:19:53
Do you believe a state could reimplement slavery
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:16:30
No because state constitutions prohibit indentured servitude
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:18:32
What about female suffrage?
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:20:05
The State Supreme Court
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meatiger
MU
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2/9 11:20:43
So you believe states could reinstate slavery and remove
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:22:04
No because no state const. allows indentured servitude(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:22:28
Do all states prohibit it?
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:23:50
yes. all state constitutions do. We can do your hypothetical
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:25:15
Also
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meatiger
MU
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2/9 11:27:34
I am not
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:27:04
Actually, the founders set it up so that each state operates
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:28:55
They may
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:42:19
"Typically for criminal punishments or debt payments"
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:44:53
You made the claim
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:46:34
No you didnt. You found a stupid definition of servitude to
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:50:30
So if the US Constitution ruled all
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meatiger
MU
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2/9 11:44:44
Many states will write what is superceding federal
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:47:18
you don't know what the founders did or didn't do
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ashtray
UF
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2/9 11:28:45
I assume my question was too difficult for you. That's OK,
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hokie
VT
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2/9 11:08:59
I remember. And when they did that, the media and socialists
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hokie
VT
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2/9 11:05:33
oh boo hoo. Is that what made Rs abandon it?(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:06:07
I am totally in favor of state's rights
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:04:45
Then you are not at all in favor of State's rights(nm)
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meatiger
MU
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2/9 11:18:44
Of course I am
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:20:50
the US Constitution is written for the Federal Government
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meatiger
MU
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2/9 11:21:37
States can do what they wish
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:22:40
false (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:57:45
Not true
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meatiger
MU
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2/9 11:25:29
You are free to think what you wish to think
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:27:56
Colorado isn’t acting counter to the constitution
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:11:04
I think the SC will decide otherwise
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mu7176grad
MU
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2/9 11:17:05
tell me about HOAs and the first amendment again
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:20:37
so states can't secede by your own logic (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/9 11:08:12
I guess any state could say they wish to no longer abide by
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:10:17
not by your logic
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ashtray
UF
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2/9 11:10:38
But it would not keep them from trying to do it
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:12:08
so you're not totally in favor of state's rights (nm)
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ashtray
UF
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2/9 11:22:28
I am
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:24:34
you aren't
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ashtray
UF
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2/9 11:25:19
Just like he believes in freedom
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meatiger
MU
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2/9 11:31:59
Then you are not in favor of states rights(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:05:13
CO does not have the right to nullify my vote.
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Coors4bob
STL
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2/9 11:06:31
no one is nullifying your vote (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:13:08
Elections are a system of interlocking outcomes.
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Coors4bob
STL
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2/9 11:14:08
nope. That is both incorrect and illogical.
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:21:04
Do you live in CO?(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:06:57
I live in TX but they can nullify my vote
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Coors4bob
STL
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2/9 11:09:47
lmfao no (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:13:32
goddam you are dumb. CO primary doesnt affect you in TX
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:10:59
Of course it does. Elections are a system
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Coors4bob
STL
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2/9 11:13:11
OMG, lol(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:13:55
LOL does no make your logic correct.
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Coors4bob
STL
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2/9 11:35:50
SCOTUS has been and will be wrong again(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:37:12
I am
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:06:27
it’s not a constitutional issue (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:12:23
lol, It is you that doesnt know what states rights is(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:07:25
The more you post, the more you demonstrate
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:08:21
it’s a federal overreach. not surprised you don’t get that (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 10:56:41
CO does not have the right to nullify my vote.
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Coors4bob
STL
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2/9 11:07:15
they didn’t (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:08:46
I get a kick out of those saying the SCOTUS should have
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 10:56:29
How is it a missapplication?
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meatiger
MU
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2/9 10:59:28
There is federal oversight of federal elections
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:03:43
100% wrong. this is not counter to the constitution (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:08:18
There is no federal oversight of elections(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:04:35
There are laws regarding who can and cannot run
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:05:37
There is no federal oversight of elections(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:06:31
Of course there is.
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Coors4bob
STL
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2/9 11:08:29
No there isnt. The FEC has no authority whatsoever to
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:12:47
nope (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:11:51
But SCOTUS can and should rule on the Consitutionality
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:07:46
Actually, the parties decide who reresents them in general
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:10:03
And in this case the state is trying to tell the parties who
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:11:03
No it isn’t (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 11:21:39
Now you are learining. Its not a federal election issue(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:13:33
It is
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:15:08
Nope. It cited state law not federal law because federal
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:17:26
Wow
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:18:55
I did and the justices were overreaching IMO(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:19:48
And an educated opinion is not of much value
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:25:32
I assure you that I am much more of an elections expert
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:27:08
You clearly aren't an expert of state constitutions
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:44:12
Prisons. Not an individual owning another. Next(nm)
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:46:03
You are now offering clarificaitons
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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2/9 11:49:09
Slavery isnt prisons. It is a person owning another. You
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hefeweizen
MU
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2/9 11:53:16
4tigs works in the medical industry
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meatiger
MU
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2/9 11:32:52
no (nm)
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pickle
MU
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2/9 10:57:13