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you don't know what the founders did or didn't do

Posted on: February 9, 2024 at 11:28:45 CT
ashtray UF
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you've never read the Federalist and Anti-Federalist Papers, so you're talking out of your ass and stating your assumptions as fact
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Assume for a second that the scotus votes 9–0 on the - hokie VT - 2/9 10:54:08
     2024 has been a bad year for the dems, so far. The past few - BH O'bonga MU - 2/9 11:31:22
          Be careful what you wish for. If the socialists get a sane - hokie VT - 2/9 15:17:04
          He's fine to be president - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:45:00
     Remember when Rs were all about states rights? Good times(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:03:26
          Incorrect - BigDave MU - 2/9 13:11:17
               wrong (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 16:35:51
          States do not have the right to misinterpret/ignore - Spanky KU - 2/9 11:32:43
               that doesn’t mean what you think it means (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:46:58
                    You is dumb - Spanky KU - 2/9 12:50:06
                         no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 13:08:25
               Where in the US constitution does it say a state cant bar - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:35:41
                    The states are misapplying the 14th Amendment - Spanky KU - 2/9 11:46:35
                         But, but, but..... - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 12:09:39
                              don’t hitch yourself to Spanky - pickle MU - 2/9 12:22:37
                                   You is dumb.... The CO case hinges on the 14th - Spanky KU - 2/9 12:49:27
                                        no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 12:56:39
                                             yes. - Spanky KU - 2/9 13:16:40
                                                  no. both the 14th and Article II are irrelevant (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 13:36:15
                                                       wrong - Spanky KU - 2/9 14:49:47
                                                            no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 15:18:09
                         This is my guess is it will be decided against Colorado - MUTGR MU - 2/9 11:49:55
                         Nope. Most states bar anyone with a felony conviction from - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:48:32
                              Which states bar a felon for running for federal office?(nm) - Spanky KU - 2/9 12:01:28
                                   Missouri does. Unless you are sying that US House and Senate - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 12:08:28
                                        What is a federal office? - Spanky KU - 2/9 12:48:30
                         no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:47:07
                    Don't argue with people here - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:46:04
                         then cite the Article, Section, and Clause - pickle MU - 2/9 11:47:42
                         Thats the point. You want it both ways depending on which - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:47:00
                              No, I realize the founders did not grant unlimited - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:48:23
                                   False. You’re completely backwards - pickle MU - 2/9 11:57:00
                                   ^^^Believes in states rights. lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:49:11
                                        Yes I do - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:50:28
                                             you certainly do not (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:57:19
                                             Yet the US Const doesnt address state elections at all - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:51:43
          So you agree with the states controlling abortion right - TGR84 MU - 2/9 11:21:15
               yes(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:21:40
          Remember when Dems had a brain? - Spanky KU - 2/9 11:19:53
          Do you believe a state could reimplement slavery - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:16:30
               No because state constitutions prohibit indentured servitude - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:18:32
                    What about female suffrage? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:20:05
                         The State Supreme Court - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:20:43
                              So you believe states could reinstate slavery and remove - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:22:04
                                   No because no state const. allows indentured servitude(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:22:28
                                        Do all states prohibit it? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:23:50
                                             yes. all state constitutions do. We can do your hypothetical - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:25:15
                                                  Also - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:27:34
                                                  I am not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:27:04
                                                       Actually, the founders set it up so that each state operates - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:28:55
                                                            They may - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:42:19
                                                                 "Typically for criminal punishments or debt payments" - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:44:53
                                                                      You made the claim - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:46:34
                                                                           No you didnt. You found a stupid definition of servitude to - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:50:30
                                                                 So if the US Constitution ruled all - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:44:44
                                                                      Many states will write what is superceding federal - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:47:18
                                                       you don't know what the founders did or didn't do - ashtray UF - 2/9 11:28:45
          I assume my question was too difficult for you. That's OK, - hokie VT - 2/9 11:08:59
          I remember. And when they did that, the media and socialists - hokie VT - 2/9 11:05:33
               oh boo hoo. Is that what made Rs abandon it?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:06:07
          I am totally in favor of state's rights - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:04:45
               Then you are not at all in favor of State's rights(nm) - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:18:44
                    Of course I am - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:20:50
                         the US Constitution is written for the Federal Government - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:21:37
                              States can do what they wish - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:22:40
                                   false (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:57:45
                                   Not true - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:25:29
                                        You are free to think what you wish to think - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:27:56
               Colorado isn’t acting counter to the constitution - pickle MU - 2/9 11:11:04
                    I think the SC will decide otherwise - mu7176grad MU - 2/9 11:17:05
                         tell me about HOAs and the first amendment again - pickle MU - 2/9 11:20:37
               so states can't secede by your own logic (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/9 11:08:12
                    I guess any state could say they wish to no longer abide by - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:10:17
                         not by your logic - ashtray UF - 2/9 11:10:38
                              But it would not keep them from trying to do it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:12:08
                                   so you're not totally in favor of state's rights (nm) - ashtray UF - 2/9 11:22:28
                                        I am - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:24:34
                                             you aren't - ashtray UF - 2/9 11:25:19
                                                  Just like he believes in freedom - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:31:59
               Then you are not in favor of states rights(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:05:13
                    CO does not have the right to nullify my vote. - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:06:31
                         no one is nullifying your vote (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:13:08
                              Elections are a system of interlocking outcomes. - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:14:08
                                   nope. That is both incorrect and illogical. - pickle MU - 2/9 11:21:04
                         Do you live in CO?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:06:57
                              I live in TX but they can nullify my vote - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:09:47
                                   lmfao no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:13:32
                                   goddam you are dumb. CO primary doesnt affect you in TX - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:10:59
                                        Of course it does. Elections are a system - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:13:11
                                             OMG, lol(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:13:55
                                                  LOL does no make your logic correct. - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:35:50
                                                       SCOTUS has been and will be wrong again(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:37:12
                    I am - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:06:27
                         it’s not a constitutional issue (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:12:23
                         lol, It is you that doesnt know what states rights is(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:07:25
                              The more you post, the more you demonstrate - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:08:21
     it’s a federal overreach. not surprised you don’t get that (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 10:56:41
          CO does not have the right to nullify my vote. - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:07:15
               they didn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:08:46
     I get a kick out of those saying the SCOTUS should have - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 10:56:29
          How is it a missapplication? - meatiger MU - 2/9 10:59:28
               There is federal oversight of federal elections - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:03:43
                    100% wrong. this is not counter to the constitution (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:08:18
                    There is no federal oversight of elections(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:04:35
                         There are laws regarding who can and cannot run - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:05:37
                              There is no federal oversight of elections(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:06:31
                                   Of course there is. - Coors4bob STL - 2/9 11:08:29
                                        No there isnt. The FEC has no authority whatsoever to - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:12:47
                                        nope (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:11:51
                                   But SCOTUS can and should rule on the Consitutionality - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:07:46
                                        Actually, the parties decide who reresents them in general - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:10:03
                                             And in this case the state is trying to tell the parties who - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:11:03
                                                  No it isn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 11:21:39
                                                  Now you are learining. Its not a federal election issue(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:13:33
                                                       It is - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:15:08
                                                            Nope. It cited state law not federal law because federal - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:17:26
                                                                 Wow - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:18:55
                                                                      I did and the justices were overreaching IMO(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:19:48
                                                                           And an educated opinion is not of much value - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:25:32
                                                                                I assure you that I am much more of an elections expert - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:27:08
                                                                                     You clearly aren't an expert of state constitutions - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:44:12
                                                                                          Prisons. Not an individual owning another. Next(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:46:03
                                                                                               You are now offering clarificaitons - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 2/9 11:49:09
                                                                                                    Slavery isnt prisons. It is a person owning another. You - hefeweizen MU - 2/9 11:53:16
                                                                                     4tigs works in the medical industry - meatiger MU - 2/9 11:32:52
          no (nm) - pickle MU - 2/9 10:57:13




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