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I think you're getting lost in semantics

Posted on: November 17, 2023 at 12:15:11 CT

CulturedDan MU

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I have unconditional love for my children. We use terms like "I'm proud of you" to demonstrate that, but if you want to break it down to the true meaning of that word, we would actually be saying "I find great personal satisfaction in the accomplishment that you had and vicariously towards myself in how I raised you" - when all I really mean is "I love you no matter what, but I'm happy for you that you achieved something for yourself". I want my kids to feel confident and supported (because of my genuine love for them) - so when they accomplish something I'll say that I'm proud of them.

I do not take pride in my children.

When it comes to my country. I live here. I do not love my country. My country murders, promotes wickedness, and exalts itself above God. I would never love that nor take pride in it. No believer in the history of the Church would feel that way about their country until the current age where we normalized loyalty, love, and devotion to the state as a thing that God wants for his people. Far be it from that.

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Mat, y'day I offered you the chance to lie and tell us - hokie VT - 11/17 09:28:33

hokie, please stop asking such deeply complex questions - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:09:02

It's sort of like when Ketanji was asked what a woman - hokie VT - 11/17 11:47:34

I had no idea you were so deep - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:52:22

I am the Marianas Trench of political discourse. Nm - hokie VT - 11/17 12:05:47

oversimplification always implies obfuscated and/or false - 90Tiger STL - 11/17 11:35:32

EVERY time? Really, every freaking time. Do you love - hokie VT - 11/17 11:51:43

that's a simple question and you didn't oversimplify - 90Tiger STL - 11/17 11:59:27

Simple minds expect simple answers and are unable to grasp - TigerMatt STL - 11/17 11:29:18

Indeed - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:36:34

Profess your love of the DC swamp, Biden, etc - El-ahrairah BAMA - 11/17 09:59:21

Where did that come from? You're not seriously suggesting - hokie VT - 11/17 10:04:19

You're the guy who walks up to someone - Wildcat KSU - 11/17 09:58:19

RE: You're the guy who walks up to someone - SwampTiger MU - 11/17 10:34:15

You must spend a lot of time in gay bars. NTTAWWT. Nm - hokie VT - 11/17 10:16:42

Huh? - Wildcat KSU - 11/17 10:22:08

Yes, of course. You got it exactly right. Now go away. Nm - hokie VT - 11/17 10:31:22

No more and no less than any other. - TigerMatt STL - 11/17 09:42:51

That in no way excludes pride or strong citizenship - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 09:54:49

Maybe you should look at what your savior - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 10:08:04

Saying I love my country is not boasting in my country - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:09:22

You didn't say "love" you said "pride" - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 10:16:14

And I have pride in my country and my family - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:18:38

that's your wrong opinion. - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 10:22:13

We are to honor God above all things - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:34:19

you're adding your own interpretation to justify - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 10:42:46

Joseph, Danield, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:06:08

I'll just note that you moved the goalposts once again. - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 11:30:30

They worked to bring honor to their God. They didn’t - TigerMatt STL - 11/17 11:22:21

Correct - that is the point - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:25:27

If you are including the government in the country what is - TigerMatt STL - 11/17 11:28:24

There were times when Israel and Judah were fighting under - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:38:50

"fighting for what's right" - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 11:41:22

I guess you have never told your children you are proud - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:42:25

1 - you're the legalist. - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 11:45:32

But pride is wrong - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:47:28

because I don't take pride in the fact my kid can - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 11:50:48

So you take pride in your son - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:53:25

Lost in translation…. The modern English word of proud - TigerMatt STL - 11/17 12:07:19

Exactly - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 12:19:40

maybe comprehend what i wrote and try again(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 11:55:35

So pride is not wrong - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:58:22

there isn't much you "get", 4Tigs (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/17 12:46:44

Wow, that is biting - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 12:54:54

well...since you're too stupid to understand the post. I'll - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 11:59:59

Are you proud of your children? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 12:05:48

I think you're getting lost in semantics - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 12:15:11

Smugs just stfu - JayHoaxH8r MU

- 11/17 12:10:29

Well, if you were an expert in anything, that would be it(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 12:20:20

speak for yourself - pickle MU

- 11/17 10:36:17

saying “i got the latest booster” is not boasting, either (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/17 10:15:30

pride and citizenship aren't the topic - SwampTiger MU - 11/17 09:56:22

Do you love your country? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 09:57:34

it isn't a simple question - SwampTiger MU - 11/17 10:02:32

As posted below, and try to follow the complexity of this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:04:22

you didn't answer my question - SwampTiger MU - 11/17 10:10:03

You can define it as you see fit - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:12:48

Most people don’t understand the difference between - TigerMatt STL - 11/17 10:16:33

Here is a crazy thought - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:19:47

lol - when people do that, you accuse them of not - 90Tiger STL - 11/17 10:47:49

When I desire a simple yes or no, I make that clear - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:03:23

you’re dishonest and a hypocrite - pickle MU

- 11/17 11:11:06

didn't allow for qualification here - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 10:55:29

Qualify an answer to Hokie - meatiger MU - 11/17 10:21:56

I love my country - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:34:57

I love the part of rural MO i'm from and where - SwampTiger MU - 11/17 10:16:24

How dare you not love the trannies in San Fransisco!(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 10:23:20

It isn’t. Some people assume country includes the - TigerMatt STL - 11/17 10:01:00

Let's twist the heck out of a simple question - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:03:34

"Eet eez just a seemple question! Answer now!" - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 10:25:11

Again, I find that deeply amusing - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:35:47

there it is! This is all just for fun, guys (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/17 12:48:28

Do you hink what happens here really moves the needle - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 12:55:47

yes (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/17 13:02:19

You're a gutless little America hating worm. While I - hokie VT - 11/17 09:49:58

Not really - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 09:56:11

Was John the apostle a legalist?(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 10:25:40

No - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:37:09

lol. you moved the goalposts again. - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 10:51:00

One is never to love anything more than God - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:07:55

you have no scriptural basis for what you just said. - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 11:38:41

God made this world for our enjoyment - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:41:05

another goalpost move. - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 11:47:16

We are to love the things God entrusted to us - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:48:40

that is wrong. - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 11:54:54

We are not to love the animals of the air and land? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 11:59:20

I'm just going to let your post breath a bit. - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 12:01:19

I would stop if I were you as well - good choice(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 12:06:44

Like any good socialist, you do love your public - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 09:34:32

Saying you love your country makes you a socialist? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 09:38:47

Lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 11/17 09:49:56

meated it (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/17 09:45:31

sigh(nm) - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 09:44:19

The point went completely over your head.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 11/17 09:43:44

It did not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 09:57:02

it did (nm) - pickle MU

- 11/17 10:13:10

Hokie thinks - meatiger MU - 11/17 10:04:28

And that would be wrong - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:05:07

Read it again. He was talking about the public - TigerMatt STL - 11/17 10:01:42

Wow - OK - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:06:04

acknowledge it went over your head (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/17 10:21:04

Yes, one thing I cannot grasp is the complexity of the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 11/17 10:38:39

Einstein fled his country, so I'm sure he would have had - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 11:01:29

not the point you missed, smugs (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 11/17 10:41:06

No need for you to answer, Timmy. We know. Nm - hokie VT - 11/17 09:36:02

good, I thought I would go straight to gitmo if I - CulturedDan MU

- 11/17 09:44:47

Country or US government? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 11/17 09:32:29

Country. Nm - hokie VT - 11/17 09:34:45

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