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This is loaded with trolliness, but what the hell

Posted on: March 2, 2023 at 00:55:09 CT
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A coach's first year is largely affected by the group he inherits. Except this year Gates had to deal with almost the entire team leaving and a terrible recruiting effort by CM. Gates filled the roster up in a short period of time and crafted a decent season out of a bunch of kids that a bunch of folks on this board dismissed as D2 castaways. Much respect to Gates for piecing this team together and giving us some great games to watch this year. It was a huge improvement over the CM years.

As for Haith, his one good year was with a solid veteran core that was left by Anderson. After that season, Haith was never able to develop players or keep them around for long. It was a cavalcade of transfers and players who were recruited with no vision of where they would fit into the system. And Haith couldn't draw up a play to save his Teddy Ruxpin life. Unlike Gates, who actually has the team run a play after a timeout. What a novel concept.

Haith left the team in a mess, which some on this board refuse to acknowledge. Anderson was hired and inherited a team in academic and recruiting trouble. Anderson inherited a team that had to vacate the entire 2013-2014 season, was banned from the post-season and was stripped of two scholarships. Yes, Anderson's teams were abysmal, but many forget what he inherited and that he stepped in when nobody else wanted that job. Haith was an absolute disaster and I will never understand the homoerotic love for him on this board. You folks who love him are very good at revisionist history. Give it a rest.

Martin had all the potential and seemingly none of the motivation and desire to succeed. Hard to understand why his teams were not better or why he did not recruit better. He was worth the gamble but his teams were hard to watch.

First year stats are not a good measuring stick. I have more optimism watching this Gates team than I have had for Mizzou basketball in a long time.
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     This is why context matters. (nm) - TheRoyalTiger MU - 3/2 06:51:23
     You should show the Kenpom rankings the year before each hir - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/2 06:45:52
          Cuonzo had the biggest Kenpom improvement by a large - zounami MU - 3/2 07:33:42
     Agree Haith cratered the program in a ditch that took years - TigerFan92 STL - 3/2 04:42:21
          Ragnar? - glue MU - 3/2 06:46:38
     This is loaded with trolliness, but what the hell - 615Tiger STL - 3/2 00:55:09
          Haith was a crook. His whereabouts are currently unknown - STLTIGER MU - 3/2 07:07:05
          No one else wanted the job? I find it hard to believe that.. - Lerxst MU - 3/2 06:54:35
               a Final Four coach was begging for the job (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 07:32:01
                    ...and I'm pretty sure Howland would have done well here (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 07:32:26
          That is a strange recollection of that era(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 3/2 06:41:33
          "his Teddy Ruxpin life" reveals your bias in the 2nd and 3rd - zounami MU - 3/2 01:52:37
          Well-stated analysis. (nm) - go tigers MU - 3/2 01:12:37
     My optimism says that Dennis is younger and brighter than - ImpalaSS MU - 3/1 23:45:28
          RE: My optimism says that Dennis is younger and brighter than - Str8upBB MU - 3/2 08:52:41
          Haith's 1st season was probably the biggest outlier in - Ron Swanson MU - 3/1 23:50:29
               This is my Biggest Hesitation About - WrightWing MU - 3/1 23:55:55
                    I don't think so - Uncle John MU - 3/2 00:23:49
               Haith's 2nd team had a Kenpom of #25... - zounami MU - 3/1 23:55:28
                    Dude, just admit you were wrong about Gates(nm) - Ron Swanson MU - 3/1 23:57:40
                         I expected a Kenpom between 50 and 80. (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 00:04:45
                              Did you expect a NCAA tournament lock at this point - wu-tangtiger MU - 3/2 07:02:45
                                   no (nm) - zounami MU - 3/2 07:30:59
          agreed (nm) - zounami MU - 3/1 23:46:26
               I'd be curious to know where Quin's first year ranked? Why - ImpalaSS MU - 3/1 23:48:51
                    kenpom not that old - alwaysright MU - 3/2 07:30:34
     Quit being a douche and just appreciate what Gates has - Ron Swanson MU - 3/1 23:40:11
          what are you talking about? (nm) - zounami MU - 3/1 23:40:53
               Your last two posts have been about luck and Hath & - Ron Swanson MU - 3/1 23:42:39
                    They've been statistical analysis, that's it. I even said - zounami MU - 3/1 23:45:05




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