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Because it is not something that can be proven beyond the

Posted on: December 23, 2021 at 21:08:58 CT
JeffB MU
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shadow of a doubt with our senses.

In a sense you might have faith that the universe is expanding or that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light but you can't prove them beyond the shadow of a doubt by physically measuring the speed of the expansion.

When Robert Koch first postulated that tiny organisms too small to be seen with the naked eye caused illnesses no one could prove beyond the shadow of a doubt whether his postulate was true or false. But his postulate was objectively true regardless of whether or not most people believed it or even if anyone believed it.

As time went on evidence accumulated and some people had faith in his beliefs in that regard, but it wasn't until the microscope was invented that it was possible to verify and see with one's own eyes that these tiny microorganisms actually existed and through further experiments gathered more and more evidence that his postulate was indeed objectively true.
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Happy holidays to all! - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/23 17:34:45
     How sad - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 17:38:49
          lol ironic from a DemTard(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 12/24 09:20:31
          I'm glad you have such feelings for Christmas, but how - JeffB MU - 12/23 17:41:05
               Wow - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 17:51:20
                    Yer a messed up stupid evil dude. wow(nm) - TigerFan92 STL - 12/24 09:21:25
                    A "revolutionary teacher"???? - Wildcat KSU - 12/23 23:12:01
                         INSURRECTION!!!!!!!!(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/24 08:07:46
                    “great teacher”? - El Zorro MU - 12/23 19:04:02
                         RE: “great teacher”? - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 19:06:50
                              It is not. We have been through this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 19:52:40
                                   lol (nm) - pickle MU - 12/23 20:02:33
                                   pagan! OH NO! (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 19:58:36
                                        Does the term freak you out? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 20:10:23
                                             no, why did you use it as an accusation? Pagan literally - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 20:29:31
                                                  It all comes down to the question Pontius Pilate asked - JeffB MU - 12/23 20:49:30
                                                       lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 20:58:35
                                                       Good post - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 20:56:55
                                                            if it's "objective truth", why do you say you have - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 20:59:32
                                                                 Because it is not something that can be proven beyond the - JeffB MU - 12/23 21:08:58
                                                                      lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:24:31
                                                                 I have faith it is objective truth - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 21:02:16
                                                                      lmfao (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:02:36
                                                  I used it as an accurate descriptor in a discussion - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 20:40:42
                                                       rask learns and adheres to a mix of many worldwide - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 20:46:55
                                                            A definition of pagan: - JeffB MU - 12/23 20:57:18
                                                                 was this intended to add to the discussion? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:03:05
                                                                      Yes. You seemed to take issue with 4Tigs calling Rask - JeffB MU - 12/23 21:17:18
                                                                           no, i took issue with him using it as a condemnation - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:24:07
                                                                                In the post I responded to you were taking issue with him - JeffB MU - 12/23 21:42:14
                                                                                     lol, no (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 22:30:56
                                                                                So because you agree rask is a pagan - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 21:26:14
                                                                                     no, I take issue with you calling him a pagan to - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:27:21
                                                                                          Irony (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/23 22:03:36
                                                                                               jeff - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 22:31:15
                                                                                                    Double irony. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/23 22:34:34
                                                                                          They do discredit his arguments regarding Jesus Christ - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 21:28:27
                                                                                               so your comments about pagan religions are all invalid? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:33:09
                                                                                               holy self-serving circular logic, batman - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:30:46
                                                                 I guess it is wrong to use an accurate religious term - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 20:58:56
                                                                      what difference does it make in the above rask post - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:05:17
                                                                           Were I arguing the benefits or free markets with someone who - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 21:09:50
                                                                                4tigs, rask didn't make any point because he's a pagan. - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:25:24
                                                                                     Yes, his points regarding Jesus Christ are invalid - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 21:27:17
                                                                                          why are his points about Jesus Christ invalid because - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:27:53
                                                            He has claimed to follow mixes of certain religions - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 20:50:54
                                                                 that isn't why you misused the term (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:05:50
                                                                      He holds pagan beliefs - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 21:11:10
                                                                           lol, yes. he's a pagan. of course he's a pagan. JFC - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:26:33
                                                                                I accurately labeled a pagan a pagan - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 21:30:27
                                                                                     why are you being obtuse. of course he's a pagan. No - 90Tiger STL - 12/23 21:31:48
                    Do you have a list of myths where the hero in the myth dies - TigerMatt KC - 12/23 18:43:54
                         Dionysus, for one. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/23 18:54:43
                              Joseph Campbell, world-beater mythologist on Dionysus & - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 19:14:28
                                   That was probably Satan stirring up his 'life energy'. (nm) - JeffB MU - 12/23 19:55:54
                         Sorry (nm) - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 18:48:44
                    If it is all about myths and corporate sales why would you - JeffB MU - 12/23 17:55:09
                         RE: If it is all about myths and corporate sales why would you - Breadtruck MU - 12/23 18:35:46
                         Wow you are primping up here aren't you boy - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 18:01:14
                              Either way, you are offended that Tigrrrr! disrespected a - JeffB MU - 12/23 18:05:51
                                   ha ha ha ha ha ha "feast of Shiva" you made me laugh - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 18:13:16
                                        How were you celebrating birth - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 12/23 20:12:40
                                        It doesn't matter what myth you choose. I wouldn't be - JeffB MU - 12/23 18:21:37
                                             What I "consider to be a myth" ?? - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 18:55:02
                                                  There's a big difference between something that is - JeffB MU - 12/23 19:53:34
                                        your thoughts on festivus? (nm) - noodle MU - 12/23 18:18:09
                                             That's for the rest of us nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 12/23 18:40:39
                                             Fantastic, just like most ancient ritual celebrations - raskolnikov MU - 12/23 18:21:08
          Joe is the reason for the season. - Tigrrrr! MU - 12/23 17:39:46




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