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Posted on: July 13, 2021 at 12:40:52 CT
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want the program to take the next step.

Norm took us from obscurity to being a perennial national power. But he could never get us over the top.

We hired Duke's Golden boy to take that next step. Unfortunately he was not mature enough at that time to succeed.

Next was an up and comer with a unique style and a good pedigree. He was successful but it became obvious that the ceiling for his style was short of the championships we were all hoping for.

Haith was a desperation hire that actually worked out better than any fan hoped it would. But the way he ran the program left a bad taste in your mouth and no one was too sad to see him go,

Kim was a shot at Norm 2.0 and an attempt to appease the blue hairs that write the big checks. He was an unmitigated disaster.

Martin was a class act that had some tires to the area and was supposed to rebuild ties to STL and bring the city back into the fold. The problem was that he had never been anything but mediocre and we were betting that he would blossom at Mizzou. He didn't, he is the same coach he has been his entire career.

Yes many fans are nostalgic for coaches that we may have been hard on at the time. Our program is currently irrelevant and while all those other coaches had flaws or program was always relevant under their watches.
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Can someone answer this question - Third_Eye STL - 7/13 12:22:20
     Quinn was young and made mistakes - cal tiger MU - 7/13 20:58:35
     Fiji is really bad at this. Was really hard on Mike & Frank - alwaysright MU - 7/13 18:32:07
     The only one that would remotely fit your description - SuperTone MU - 7/13 15:27:15
     Quin is the only one on that list I'd want back(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/13 15:07:04
     There is about 5 fans who want Haith back - MoGold MU - 7/13 14:58:30
     MA just set the record for players transferring - alstl MU - 7/13 13:22:00
     My beef with MA was playing Alden for a chump repeatedly - Fred G. Sanford USA - 7/13 12:58:27
     Cuonzo was embraced here until he decided on an - zounami MU - 7/13 12:57:29
     It's an entitled bitterness that's been growing for decades(nm) - zoomer 99 - 7/13 12:47:11
     I wouldn’t take long for a great coach, and an AD who…… - ClassicTiger MU - 7/13 12:41:16
          I see this claim all the time - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 14:41:42
          Mizzou isn't getting a great coach. - tgr MU - 7/13 13:59:12
               You didn’t understand my post….. - ClassicTiger MU - 7/13 15:06:14
     No matter where a program is at the moment fans always - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/13 12:40:52
          One could say that Martin hasn't rather than didn't - raskolnikov MU - 7/13 21:39:25
     The Haith thing is interesting. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/13 12:39:29
          The funny thing about that is Cuonzo has recruited - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 12:54:07
               RE: The funny thing about that is Cuonzo has recruited - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:18:53
                    Who did he recruit to Mizzou? - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 13:20:47
                         Oriakhi in terms of McDonald's All Americans - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:23:57
                              Brown’s his only all conference player. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 13:27:50
                                   Jankovic for example went on to be CPOY and signed - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:29:43
                                        Not for Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 13:38:18
                                             Technically he transferred when Fuller was the coach, and - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:43:40
                                                  His first 2 rounds of transfers were great - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 13:56:38
               Without leading to NCAA infractions, too - zoomer 99 - 7/13 12:55:48
                    There were no NCAA infractions related to his recruiting - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:20:33
                         Wrong. - haeffb MU - 7/13 20:50:40
                         incorrect, his violations did involve recruiting - zoomer 99 - 7/13 13:26:04
                              RE: incorrect, his violations did involve recruiting - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:27:17
                                   There's a recruit mentioned in that quote - zoomer 99 - 7/13 13:28:24
                                        I thought you were trying to understand/learn - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:30:56
                                             Ok, well, Haith gave impermissible benefits to a recruit - zoomer 99 - 7/13 13:33:14
                                                  Sorry you find this confusing. It isn't (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:34:14
     This is a message board, and the opinions here are going to - Cosmo MU - 7/13 12:39:00
     The honest answer is that - Diamond Dave MU - 7/13 12:34:49
          Quin was never close to elite while he was here(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/13 13:59:50
               He was an elite hire at the time. Plus, didn't he make... - Lerxst MU - 7/13 17:06:50
                    1 - alwaysright MU - 7/13 18:43:23
               RE: Quin was never close to elite while he was here(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 14:44:36
                    December 10th..lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/13 15:45:29
          CMA had a much better win % than Quin - zoomer 99 - 7/13 12:49:24
          MA was a better coach during the time he was here than - TigerA MU - 7/13 12:37:26
     RE: Can someone answer this question - HSCoach STL - 7/13 12:30:16
          CM returned his entire lineup. That gave them a huge - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/13 12:49:36
               RE: CM returned his entire lineup. That gave them a huge - Third_Eye STL - 7/13 13:41:44
               Well said Dhighlander - CapeKevin MU - 7/13 12:56:14
          He struggles more at coaching than recruiting - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 12:33:26
     Its different parties expressing their differing opinions - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 12:29:57
          Norm got lazy coaching in the 1990s(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/13 13:58:46
               No, he lost touch with the kids of that era. - alwaysright MU - 7/13 18:45:41
               I don't think Norm has the capacity for laziness, at least - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 14:46:19
                    I was a tutor for the athletic department at that time - meatiger MU - 7/13 15:46:30
                         Norm knew if he beat ku nothing else really mattered. He got - sprintcar STL - 7/14 07:24:40
     grass is always greener(nm) - TigerA MU - 7/13 12:26:28




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