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Posted on: July 13, 2021 at 12:22:20 CT
Third_Eye STL
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Why does every basketball coach while currently coaching at Mizzou gets trashed(by a significant percentage of fans) but the minute they leave then all of a sudden the perception of them changes, with the slight exception of Norm. Ive watched and followed Mizzou hoops since the days of Stipo, Sunny and Ricky Frazier, so I have historical perspective.

“Quin was a coke head”, “MA played streetball with no structure who’s system couldnt win big”, “Haith cant coach and is sleazy(Nevin Shapiro), ”CM is lazy, cant coach, cant recruit”. Now fans would rather have MA or Haith, smh. The numbers show ALL were solid to above average, none were great but all had great moments within the first 3 years. I appreciate optimistic fans, who are objective and dont have to use hyperbole, strawmen arguments or downright lies to make their point.

Fan apathy has been trending downward for the last 3 decades and that has correlated with the team’s winning percentage as someone posted several days ago. Its hard to be a fan when your team is not winning or winning at the rate you think they should, thats why i respect fans of the Browns, Cubs, Indians(any Cleveland team, lol), Raiders and a few others. Its easy being a fan of college Blue bloods, or the Lakers, Cowboys (historically), Yankees, or Cardinals.

Some might say fan apathy leads to AD lack of investment, which leads to a slow downward trending trajectory of that program.

Edited by Third_Eye at 12:25:46 on 07/13/21
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Can someone answer this question - Third_Eye STL - 7/13 12:22:20
     Quinn was young and made mistakes - cal tiger MU - 7/13 20:58:35
     Fiji is really bad at this. Was really hard on Mike & Frank - alwaysright MU - 7/13 18:32:07
     The only one that would remotely fit your description - SuperTone MU - 7/13 15:27:15
     Quin is the only one on that list I'd want back(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 7/13 15:07:04
     There is about 5 fans who want Haith back - MoGold MU - 7/13 14:58:30
     MA just set the record for players transferring - alstl MU - 7/13 13:22:00
     My beef with MA was playing Alden for a chump repeatedly - Fred G. Sanford USA - 7/13 12:58:27
     Cuonzo was embraced here until he decided on an - zounami MU - 7/13 12:57:29
     I wouldn’t take long for a great coach, and an AD who…… - ClassicTiger MU - 7/13 12:41:16
          I see this claim all the time - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 14:41:42
          Mizzou isn't getting a great coach. - tgr MU - 7/13 13:59:12
               You didn’t understand my post….. - ClassicTiger MU - 7/13 15:06:14
     No matter where a program is at the moment fans always - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/13 12:40:52
          One could say that Martin hasn't rather than didn't - raskolnikov MU - 7/13 21:39:25
     The Haith thing is interesting. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 7/13 12:39:29
          The funny thing about that is Cuonzo has recruited - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 12:54:07
               RE: The funny thing about that is Cuonzo has recruited - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:18:53
                    Who did he recruit to Mizzou? - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 13:20:47
                         Oriakhi in terms of McDonald's All Americans - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:23:57
                              Brown’s his only all conference player. - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 13:27:50
                                   Jankovic for example went on to be CPOY and signed - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:29:43
                                        Not for Mizzou - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 13:38:18
                                             Technically he transferred when Fuller was the coach, and - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:43:40
                                                  His first 2 rounds of transfers were great - wu-tangtiger MU - 7/13 13:56:38
               Without leading to NCAA infractions, too - zoomer 99 - 7/13 12:55:48
                    There were no NCAA infractions related to his recruiting - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:20:33
                         Wrong. - haeffb MU - 7/13 20:50:40
                         incorrect, his violations did involve recruiting - zoomer 99 - 7/13 13:26:04
                              RE: incorrect, his violations did involve recruiting - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:27:17
                                   There's a recruit mentioned in that quote - zoomer 99 - 7/13 13:28:24
                                        I thought you were trying to understand/learn - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:30:56
                                             Ok, well, Haith gave impermissible benefits to a recruit - zoomer 99 - 7/13 13:33:14
                                                  Sorry you find this confusing. It isn't (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 13:34:14
     The honest answer is that - Diamond Dave MU - 7/13 12:34:49
          Quin was never close to elite while he was here(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/13 13:59:50
               He was an elite hire at the time. Plus, didn't he make... - Lerxst MU - 7/13 17:06:50
                    1 - alwaysright MU - 7/13 18:43:23
               RE: Quin was never close to elite while he was here(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 14:44:36
                    December 10th..lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/13 15:45:29
          CMA had a much better win % than Quin - zoomer 99 - 7/13 12:49:24
          MA was a better coach during the time he was here than - TigerA MU - 7/13 12:37:26
     RE: Can someone answer this question - HSCoach STL - 7/13 12:30:16
          CM returned his entire lineup. That gave them a huge - DHighlander NWMSU - 7/13 12:49:36
               RE: CM returned his entire lineup. That gave them a huge - Third_Eye STL - 7/13 13:41:44
               Well said Dhighlander - CapeKevin MU - 7/13 12:56:14
          He struggles more at coaching than recruiting - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 12:33:26
     Its different parties expressing their differing opinions - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 12:29:57
          Norm got lazy coaching in the 1990s(nm) - meatiger MU - 7/13 13:58:46
               No, he lost touch with the kids of that era. - alwaysright MU - 7/13 18:45:41
               I don't think Norm has the capacity for laziness, at least - FIJItiger MU - 7/13 14:46:19
                    I was a tutor for the athletic department at that time - meatiger MU - 7/13 15:46:30
                         Norm knew if he beat ku nothing else really mattered. He got - sprintcar STL - 7/14 07:24:40
     grass is always greener(nm) - TigerA MU - 7/13 12:26:28




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