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RE: Does military action = war in every case? If so that is an

Posted on: March 11, 2021 at 11:33:57 CT

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Hypothetical situation that we are more than likely to see. Turkey, Iran and all of their proxies go to war with Israel and Israel is endanger of being overrun, does the President have the right to intervene militarily without Congress's approval?

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The Power to Make War - pickle MU

- 3/11 10:01:02

Military conflicts in US history without a declaration of - Spanky KU - 3/11 10:29:30

Does military action = war in every case? If so that is an - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 10:39:00

RE: Does military action = war in every case? If so that is an - sarasotatiger MU - 3/11 11:33:57

If so then all of our mutual defense treaties are useless. - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 11:37:16

Treaties are ratified by the Senate. So if the treaty has a - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:39:12

Then wouldn't the same reasoning apply to the War Powers Act - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 11:41:06

I agree. But the Constitutionality of this is still in - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:58:04

Just because that was the thought in Hamilton's mind does - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 12:09:33

First there is a clear process for modifying the text - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 12:18:07

Have any of those laws been ruled unconstitutional? - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 12:41:46

Per merriam webster: - hokie VT - 3/11 10:58:17

Read the article (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/11 11:33:26

Words are hard for you.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 10:58:52

Why do you say that? You'd rather not have a set - hokie VT - 3/11 11:06:30

I think Matt was exhibiting transference there. Words are - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 11:35:39

white knight to the rescue! (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 11:39:40

Hey Putz, read the thread. I was participating here before - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 11:44:20

just admit you have the hots for cookie (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 11:47:34

Says the guy who spends all of his time on TB swinging from - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 11:48:46

while you swing from hokie and RHAYWORTH's nutsack - ashtray UF - 3/11 11:49:44

More clever originality. Pathetic, you can't even come up - hokie VT - 3/11 11:59:34

TL;DR (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 12:21:59

Like I said, words are hard for you. Look at the definition - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:12:33

So it's USUALLY open and declared. Got it, but um - hokie VT - 3/11 11:25:15

The dictionary is irrelevant - pickle MU

- 3/11 11:45:13

Again.. words are hard for you. - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:28:55

Then it sounds like words are tough for you too. By that - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 11:39:47

But not always. So it doesn't HAVE TO BE open and - hokie VT - 3/11 11:31:59

You really are retarded and have no understanding of words. - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:35:03

Actually he is looking for a precise definition of war which - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 11:42:27

Read Federalist 69 (nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:49:33

I'm not smart. LIke you. nm - hokie VT - 3/11 11:41:24

that's an understatement (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 11:48:02

what did the founders mean when they wrote it? - ashtray UF - 3/11 11:33:35

you ignorant fool.. lol (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 11:07:19

Good post. Vague, personal and saying absolutely nothing.nm - hokie VT - 3/11 11:11:48

why would I waste my time with a moron? (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 11:17:41

I ask myself that when I respond to your posts - Calca STL - 3/11 11:21:24

lol.. go check your gas prices, idiot (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 11:31:57

Sorry you're salty dude - Calca STL - 3/11 19:51:12

Sometimes i get the feeling that asstray is a nine year old - hokie VT - 3/11 11:29:13

Yeah, he's the type who thinks he's smart - Calca STL - 3/11 19:52:59

stop projecting. it isn't nice (nm) - ashtray UF - 3/11 11:32:08

Based on the thesis presented by Judge Nap in - Spanky KU - 3/11 10:58:11

I think that in modern day military situations, having... - Gyro MU - 3/11 11:10:08

RE: I think that in modern day military situations, having... - sarasotatiger MU - 3/11 11:25:25

Would you agree that such actions taken should be - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:17:37

As I believe that is what the Constitution requires... - Gyro MU - 3/11 11:20:08

I think neither political party cares about anything more - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:24:51

RE: I think that in modern day military situations, having... - MOCO SON MU - 3/11 11:14:43

Well wait... - Gyro MU - 3/11 11:19:28

Since the war powers acts have been around for 80 years and - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 11:46:44

Reading is hard for you. - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:00:22

Not according to the War Powers Acts.(nm) - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 11:47:29

Is "the natural law" written down anywhere? Are there - hokie VT - 3/11 11:05:00

The topic in the OP is about US Constitution ands US law.... - Spanky KU - 3/11 11:04:30

The topic is the original article which I quoted.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:05:33

It was a throwaway line that had zero to do with the thesis - Spanky KU - 3/11 11:11:14

That would be a defensive action. That is different than - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 10:57:01

The US Congress has granted the President limited - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 10:18:21

I think war has been redefined in recent history... - Gyro MU - 3/11 11:00:07

irrelevant. It’s what the meaning was understood to be - pickle MU

- 3/11 11:46:17

Most of the "skirmishes" are the result of the US sticking - TigerMatt STL - 3/11 11:02:38

Don't disagree... - Gyro MU - 3/11 11:07:02

No, that argument cannot be had. Only SCOTUS gets to - ummmm MU - 3/11 10:22:40

Congress has the power to make such law (Art 1, Sect 8) - Spanky KU - 3/11 11:02:06

No it doesn't. (nm) - ummmm MU - 3/11 12:01:22

Then let the SC take it up. To my knowledge the War Powers - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 10:27:26

If they are assumed to be constitutional, then what is there - ummmm MU - 3/11 10:30:32

I'm not arguing them but there are many people who think - DHighlander NWMSU - 3/11 10:35:57

What's the point in thinking its unconstitutional when it is - ummmm MU - 3/11 12:05:12

great article - ashtray UF - 3/11 10:05:08

Who Cares? - mu4ever DUKE - 3/11 10:04:59

Patriots (nm) - pickle MU

- 3/11 11:25:04