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Condescending credentialism is probably more viral than

Posted on: April 9, 2020 at 16:32:04 CT
ummmm MU
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the coronavirus at this time. Yikes.

The models have been wildly inaccurate. Reality has fallen outside of the lower bounds of their confidence ranges at almost every step of the way. Some models have been inaccurate as of the same day that the model was released. And whenever someone challenges the worth or value of these models, the answer is usually a credentialism-based response like yours.

We keep hearing about a forthcoming surge in hospitalizations (from the models, that is), but it won't come. Meanwhile, real people (in the tens of millions) are suffering from the response to this virus. So questioning the value of these models, in my opinion, is more important than determining their compliance with best statistical practices or in shoving credentials on the technicalities in people's faces.

I saw an article in The Atlantic that said the models were really aimed at convincing people to take certain action. That doesn't sound like a projection; that sounds like the ends justify the means.

Edited by ummmm at 16:33:13 on 04/09/20
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Models - *M* KC - 4/9 15:49:00
     When drastic measures are a result of the models - Sal MU - 4/9 16:44:47
          it always works the same with with hurricane models - ashtray UF - 4/9 21:00:44
          you have a PhD in statistics, bro? (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 16:49:36
               lol (nm) - Sal MU - 4/9 19:19:28
               Do the models factor in people taking responsibility for - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/9 16:58:25
                    Hey Fester, you claim to be an MSL Christian. Questions - *M* KC - 4/9 17:18:20
                         Not sure what MSL is but to answer the question i was - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/9 17:30:24
                              Missouri Synod Lutheran. Thought you said once - *M* KC - 4/9 18:52:58
                    i think people can take proactive measures with grossly - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 17:11:06
     I don't like to flatten curves, especially on women. - Deputy Dawg MU - 4/9 16:39:14
          Speaking of flat models, is Twiggy still among the living? - Deputy Dawg MU - 4/9 16:41:09
     Condescending credentialism is probably more viral than - ummmm MU - 4/9 16:32:04
          If you are a governor, do you plan for the worst scenario or - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/9 16:55:02
               i would reject the notion that it's my responsibility and in - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 17:11:59
               If I am a governor, I don't interfere with free thinking - ummmm MU - 4/9 17:03:05
                    every sperm is sacred, ummmm (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 17:16:42
          You summed up my concerns beautifully - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/9 16:48:03
               ive noticed from your posting that you don't seem - *M* KC - 4/9 17:13:24
                    Well, that cannot be proven - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/9 17:43:26
                    lmfao, yeah, the devil made the virus and god saved - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 17:17:22
                         If you believe in God, you believe there is also Satan - Spanky KU - 4/9 17:44:17
                              i think the whole of it is nonsense (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 17:44:58
          POTS - SparkyStalcup (not) (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 16:44:43
          Bingo!(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/9 16:35:21
     yet we took those models, despite of the context and caveats - dangertim MU - 4/9 16:31:23
     Pretty much on the nose - KC rules MU - 4/9 16:29:28
     The problem has been with the messaging - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/9 16:26:01
     It’s a who’s who of TB retards applauding this garbage post. - Emoji Man MSU - 4/9 16:25:01
          boy you nailed that(nm) - DollarSigns MU - 4/9 16:28:12
          Aaaaand BOOM !! Goes the Dynamite - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/9 16:26:39
     Well done - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/9 16:19:49
          lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 16:49:55
     A model that can't accurately produce output reasonably - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 4/9 16:16:42
          nm - Emoji Man MSU - 4/9 16:22:55
     “Some people end up with less money.” Spoken like a true - Emoji Man MSU - 4/9 16:15:19
     Scam. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/9 16:13:45
     i've never evaluated a model. link? all i evaluated - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 16:10:03
          RE: i've never evaluated a model. link? all i evaluated - *M* KC - 4/9 16:11:13
               of course I understand it. you somehow think i don't - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 16:13:14
                    You think he's typing while hiding under a desk (nm) - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/9 16:31:08
                         it's a metaphor (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 16:45:44
                    you idiot, you indicated below you - Ferg STL - 4/9 16:25:23
                         RE: you idiot, you indicated below you - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 16:48:45
                              you're a fuking moron - Ferg STL - 4/9 16:56:23
                                   I stated i AM social distancing. You asked if I "would" - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 17:14:10
                                        the government isn't stopping you from flying - Ferg STL - 4/9 17:20:35
                                             answered below - to go where? I'm not flying out - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 17:42:30
                         lol, i'm practicing it now, Ferg, you can still social - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 16:47:31
                              how exactly do you practice social distancing on - Ferg STL - 4/9 16:54:13
                                   depends on if they restrict the numbers of passengers. - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 16:55:30
                                        I didn't say anything about government orders - Ferg STL - 4/9 16:58:39
                                             then you're missing the point of nearly all of the - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 17:12:36
                                                  then the debate is too narrowly focused - Ferg STL - 4/9 17:19:40
                                                       lol, no, nobody blamed "the entirety" on government, you're - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 17:43:53
     Damage to the economy was going to happen regardless. - TigerMatt STL - 4/9 16:09:11
          That's exactly what has happened in Sweden - Eggs MU - 4/9 16:11:59
               The question is, who is most capable of risk assessment for - TigerMatt STL - 4/9 16:18:01
                    Obviously the individual - Eggs MU - 4/9 16:19:08
          of course (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/9 16:10:46
     POTD. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/9 16:06:17
          Lol, figured(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 4/9 16:20:07
          trump owns a fund that holds stock in an IT firm - dangertim MU - 4/9 16:18:16
          lol like you have any f*cking clue(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/9 16:13:11
               You sure as heck don't nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/9 16:20:52
                    I've been saying from the beginning the models were - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/9 16:22:46
                         Which model and what are the specific underlying - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/9 16:24:11
                              lol I don't know idiot because the assumptions have never - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/9 16:26:38
                                   LMAO. I found this on Google in 15 seconds - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/9 16:29:47
                                        Nm nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/9 16:40:20
                                             lol goddam(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/9 16:41:22
                                        Jesus f*cking Christ you're stupid - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/9 16:34:31
                                             And the Columbia model has been evaluated by most to be - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/9 16:41:12
                                             Dont Blaspheme boy - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/9 16:37:07
                                                  I will send you to meet Jesus old man - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/9 16:38:38
                                                       With yer big Thor Hammer ? LOL - Uncle Fester USMC - 4/9 16:41:39




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