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Welp.....that was pretty terrible

Posted on: December 4, 2019 at 08:34:06 CT
FIJItiger MU
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There is almost no doubt that was the worst loss in program history, surpassing the UMKC home debacle in 2014 that virtually no one thought was possible to surpass. You can say a lot of things about a loss like that, but one thing that can be said definitively is that doesn’t happen to a decently coached team whose staff know what they are doing.

I think its safe to say at this point that as was easily predictable ‘positionless’ basketball is a disaster at MU. In only slightly less predictable fashion it appears we are going to entirely waste the college career of Tilmon which is really a shame. Depending on how you look at it, our inability or our lack of prioritization towards finding adequate point guard play is a serious limitation. And whatever we did in the offseason to prepare an offensive approach is abysmal. Our reliance on 3 point shooting against such inferior competition shows serious fundamental flaws, and the pace of play and ability to generate decent looks or put players in positions to succeed is really really subpar.

That said, calls for Cuonzo’s job is not just premature but borderline asinine. He is probably not going to be ‘the guy’ at MU, but that was mostly known from the beginning. His job is to attempt to build MU back to mediocrity, so that we can ideally hire ‘the guy’. Mediocrity looks somewhat unattainable at this point and he may not get there. Its hard to see him coming back from this 3 game stretch in terms of the momentum shift and it may have closed his window of opportunity. But best case scenario this was always at a minimum a 3 year rebuild, due to injuries its been far from best case scenario, and we are only through 2 years. He wasn’t given an idiotic contract, he was given the stability needed to undertake such a task and every potential candidate would have been given the same. His stability was extended due to merit based accomplishments. He did actually make the tournament in year 1, which although was somewhat underachieving given the roster, was still a rather unthinkable achievement given what he inherited.

So he is going to be here the rest of this year, and all of next year. His assistants may not, and I would argue he really needs a massive upgrade across the board on his staff if he hopes to reach mediocrity. But the rest of this year is likely to have almost zero fan support and games in Mizzou Arena will be an embarrassment, which will make it increasingly hard to do an adequate job. And as last year’s disaster and the early season results this year sort of indicate, doing an adequate job may be beyond the capacity of this staff. MU sort of gave up on men’s basketball, and those of us who grew up knowing an basketball program that MU took pride in haven’t really come to terms with that shift. Patience is really the only option on the table at this point, and maybe a few years from now we will be mediocre again. But we appear to be in for a long ride of really hard to watch basketball.

Edited by FIJItiger at 08:37:20 on 12/04/19
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Welp.....that was pretty terrible - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 08:34:06
     Positionless or not it is necessary for a good team to - GA Tiger MU - 12/4 09:48:57
     BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! BOYCOTT! - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/4 09:03:42
          Railing on a poster wont make Kim’s work here better. - the808bass MU - 12/4 09:50:17
               RE: Railing on a poster wont make Kim’s work here better. - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/4 09:54:51
          I hope everyone goes and the arena is packed - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 09:17:01
               I can't even watch this team on TV - kcmizzou99 MU - 12/4 09:25:45
                    RE: I can't even watch this team on TV - st.charlestiger MU - 12/4 09:53:19
     So is this strike 2?(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/4 09:01:46
          He never deserved strike one but the start of this - TheWildcat MU - 12/4 09:04:02
               I am too TheWildcat. His apathetic posture on the bench, - hefeweizen MU - 12/4 09:07:02
                    A horrible loss brings out crazy speculation. - Sigma MU - 12/4 09:09:44
                         Where did I speculate? I expressed my opinion based on what - hefeweizen MU - 12/4 09:13:50
                              "coaching this game isn't all he likes to do"--Speculation - Sigma MU - 12/4 09:18:59
                                   Theres another possibility - he’s too rigid to change (nm) - the808bass MU - 12/4 09:49:10
                                        Based on previous coaching/style this has merit. - Sigma MU - 12/4 09:56:30
                                   "Has me convinced" means opinion based on observation(nm) - hefeweizen MU - 12/4 09:38:30
                                        You're convinced w/o ever speaking to him on subject or his - Sigma MU - 12/4 09:54:11
     Calling for his firing when the 2 year window is up - SuperTone MU - 12/4 09:00:58
     He and the Porter's played Sterk like a cheap fiddle... - tigertix MU - 12/4 08:46:52
          👆👆Stupid post of the day - Ace AU - 12/4 08:55:57
     I wish I could say you are engaging in hyperbole - Ace AU - 12/4 08:43:29
     Are you going to trash Cuonzo continuously like you did/do - eatatjoes MU - 12/4 08:42:49
          I doubt it, but if he deserves it then likely (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 08:46:17
               What value do you put on loyalty and service, bc one of the - eatatjoes MU - 12/4 08:52:02
                    That was the most disappointing part of it - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 09:01:48
                         He didn't do a good job, no questioning that - eatatjoes MU - 12/4 09:07:58
                              My opinion is, had he just quit after year 2 - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 09:13:39
                                   You arrogant fool. You need to own your part of the empty - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/4 09:22:49
                                        No offense, but that is idiotic - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 09:24:02
                                             You are in denial. Maybe some day you'll come to accept - MizzouTigerz MU - 12/4 09:27:19
                                   Well I know the guy and there isn't a malicious bone in his - eatatjoes MU - 12/4 09:18:51
                                        Same, that is why I found it so disappointing - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 09:21:57
                                             Opinions vary I guess(nm) - eatatjoes MU - 12/4 09:24:30
     I agree with paragraphs 1, 2 and 4. However, I don't think - bornoncampus MU - 12/4 08:38:59
          You do when you are a D2 program in the SEC - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 08:48:39
          Isn't what's his name the mastermind of Iowa State's O - TheWildcat MU - 12/4 08:40:13
               Right, and Rob Fulford studied under Mike D'Antoni(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 08:44:30
               I remember Iowa St playing at a faster pace. - Sigma MU - 12/4 08:41:12
     It broke something in me last night. It seriously made me - TheWildcat MU - 12/4 08:37:34
          I still have Caltech - lqf2b8 MU - 12/4 08:41:51
          If MU becomes good again at some point, it - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 08:41:31
          You're so emotional! Evansville won at Rupp. $hit happens - Sigma MU - 12/4 08:40:25
               You comparing a MO Valley team to whatever conference - TheWildcat MU - 12/4 08:41:01
                    Mizzou is no Kentucky(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 12/4 08:42:55
                         Agree, so Ky losing to bottom feeding MVC team is Major. - Sigma MU - 12/4 08:44:29
                              Who cares, I'm not a UK fan. I only care about MU (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 08:45:03
                                   Pt is you can have a bad loss. How you respond matters - Sigma MU - 12/4 08:46:22
                                        This game was worse than the Wyoming FBall loss(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/4 08:51:05
                                             Agree, that was an away game. Last night felt like an away - Sigma MU - 12/4 09:11:25
                                             Its the worst loss MU has ever had in men's bb - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 08:51:44
                                        92% chance the window of opportunity is now closed - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 08:49:38
                                             How did you get the 92% figure? What metric are you using? - Sigma MU - 12/4 09:08:32
                                                  Math (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 09:14:16
                                                       FIJI's math, where you make $hit up and present as fact? - Sigma MU - 12/4 09:16:18
                                                            I rounded. 91.6748% is the correct figure (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 12/4 09:17:38
                                                                 You must be a MSU grad. (M)ake ($)hit (U)p. - Sigma MU - 12/4 09:21:14
                    Relative to who they beat(Ky), and who we are(mizzou) as big - Sigma MU - 12/4 08:42:48
                         A lot bigger win(nm) - tigerNkc MU - 12/4 08:43:17
          2015 started my Mizzou divorce(nm) - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/4 08:38:45
     Will be a LONG two years....somehow negotiate a get out - MUGuy2004 STL - 12/4 08:36:49




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