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I'm not here to fire him today. I know there are

Posted on: October 12, 2018 at 07:30:10 CT
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better coaches out there that we could get.
But, we have to wait until the end of the season (or at least 3-4 more games) to see how things shape up.

I 100% stand firm in my assessment that this year will establish who Barry Odom is at MU. He was presented with 10 winnable games this year and the best QB he will ever have playing as a senior and a 4-year starter. He had his entire (good) online back. 3 good running backs. An electrifying receiver. A loaded DL. And Respectable talent across the rest of the D. Not great, but enough to keep teams under 30 ppg. We talk about Mizzou needing to have the stars align every once in a while to have a great season. They are aligned this year. If Barry wins 7 games under these circumstances, when the hell is he ever going to win more? Even if he wins 8...sure it's a step up but when can he ever possibly do better? Then Mizzou has to decide if that's good enough. Do we want to be a football program that wins 8 games in our best years and hope Martin builds an elite bball team? Or do we want to achieve what MU should be and win 8 games in a typical year? If Barry makes a bowl game, I do not pretend that this is an easy decision or one that should be made whimsically. It is a very big moment for the program.
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Pinkel vs Odom - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 16:43:33
     1960 ended up #4. 2007 was #5 - jake_mu MU - 10/11 20:34:48
          Pinkel beat KU. Devine lost to KU. Debate over - North co-co champs MU - 10/12 07:43:13
               Relative to era, 1960 was a better MU team than 2007. - alwaysright MU - 10/12 13:14:04
     Pinkel killed Mizzou on his way out. - jake_mu MU - 10/11 20:24:14
          True but this is about the Shyte show of mistakes when - TigerFan92 MU - 10/12 07:32:47
          Hahaha - tigersailor MU - 10/11 20:43:23
               not even remotely true.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 10/12 06:59:28
               RE: Hahaha - redngray MU - 10/11 20:50:16
                    That wasn’t a good year, but it was just 1 yr - tigersailor MU - 10/12 01:23:34
                         no, it wasn't just one year. The trend was drastically down - SuperTone MU - 10/12 07:00:07
     Good summary. Odom is way, way, way over his head... - Deputy Dawg MU - 10/11 19:38:12
     The selective memories on here are incredible - redngray MU - 10/11 19:26:03
          I'm not sure the 2003 Mizzou team that beat the Nubs... - Deputy Dawg MU - 10/11 19:43:46
               Ok? nm - redngray MU - 10/11 19:51:57
     Fire Pinkel - MoArk MU - 10/11 18:35:36
     RE: Pinkel vs Odom - Ragarm MU - 10/11 17:47:42
     2 things I would contend. - alwaysright MU - 10/11 17:33:05
          Pinkel’s last few classes had plenty of issues - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11 17:58:21
               In Pinkel's third year the entire defensive line was his own - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 18:20:00
                    Beckner is the only DL that Pinkel recruited - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11 18:33:50
                         And that led to their amazing 2005 revamp that got Daniel - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 18:38:08
                              Hindsight is great because after 2004 GP became - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11 18:53:37
                                   I'm not here to fire him today. I know there are - alwaysright MU - 10/12 07:30:10
                                   What don't you like about BO? (nm) - zounami MU - 10/11 19:01:51
          One your 1st point, you kind of proved mine that he quit - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 17:49:49
               GP didn't compete with the best programs in the nation.... - zounami MU - 10/11 18:07:03
                    Look at this valiant struggle against Cognitive Dissonance - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 18:21:00
               That's why I didn't say it was wrong, but open for - alwaysright MU - 10/11 17:52:15
                    Ah.... gotcha. And Mike Kelly's use of the word 'quit' is - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 17:57:57
                         So yeah. I mean it was obvious that whatever recruiting - alwaysright MU - 10/12 07:18:49
     WADR: Wasn't Odom was Pinkel's choice? nm - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 10/11 17:23:43
          He may have been the only one on his staff the University - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 17:39:00
     What was our record his last year? And, - McKinneyTiger MU - 10/11 17:11:22
          Our record in 2015 was the same as 2012, before we went 11-1 - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 17:37:10
          recruiting rankings are not predictive - FootballRefugee MU - 10/11 17:22:55
     And that my friends - samclemens MU - 10/11 16:57:15
     fair & balanced(nm) - TigerA MU - 10/11 16:47:43




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