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One your 1st point, you kind of proved mine that he quit

Posted on: October 11, 2018 at 17:49:49 CT
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recruiting if 19 of the 25 guys did not make it to campus.

Anyway... this is what I heard directly from Mike Kelly, at the wake of Marty Hendin of the St. Louis Cardinals. We were talking about the incredible season Mizzou had (07 I think), and he was just gushing over how much Pinkel meant to the University.

Mike was very loving of Larry Smith. You could tell he had compassion and personal love for Larry as a person. But he said, Larry was so discouraged by the first few years at Mizzou that the effort just wasn't there in the last few years that he put in the first few.

I will give Larry Smith 1 thing.

He proved you COULD have a winning season at Mizzou. He wasn't close to any kind of division title. We could barely make the Top 25. But at least we proved we COULD be at least a 7-8 win team and be competitive.

Unfortunately, when we went right back to the garbage can in 1999 and 2000, it was a seriously horrible and deflating feeling for the University.

Because it felt like we would never be able to even sustain being a 7 win team. That was our mountain top... and even then it couldn't continue year after year.

.......Until Pinkel shattered that into a million pieces and proved that you could even compete with the best programs in the nation at Mizzou.

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Pinkel vs Odom - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 16:43:33
     1960 ended up #4. 2007 was #5 - jake_mu MU - 10/11 20:34:48
          Pinkel beat KU. Devine lost to KU. Debate over - North co-co champs MU - 10/12 07:43:13
               Relative to era, 1960 was a better MU team than 2007. - alwaysright MU - 10/12 13:14:04
     Pinkel killed Mizzou on his way out. - jake_mu MU - 10/11 20:24:14
          True but this is about the Shyte show of mistakes when - TigerFan92 MU - 10/12 07:32:47
          Hahaha - tigersailor MU - 10/11 20:43:23
               not even remotely true.(nm) - SuperTone MU - 10/12 06:59:28
               RE: Hahaha - redngray MU - 10/11 20:50:16
                    That wasn’t a good year, but it was just 1 yr - tigersailor MU - 10/12 01:23:34
                         no, it wasn't just one year. The trend was drastically down - SuperTone MU - 10/12 07:00:07
     Good summary. Odom is way, way, way over his head... - Deputy Dawg MU - 10/11 19:38:12
     The selective memories on here are incredible - redngray MU - 10/11 19:26:03
          I'm not sure the 2003 Mizzou team that beat the Nubs... - Deputy Dawg MU - 10/11 19:43:46
               Ok? nm - redngray MU - 10/11 19:51:57
     Fire Pinkel - MoArk MU - 10/11 18:35:36
     RE: Pinkel vs Odom - Ragarm MU - 10/11 17:47:42
     2 things I would contend. - alwaysright MU - 10/11 17:33:05
          Pinkel’s last few classes had plenty of issues - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11 17:58:21
               In Pinkel's third year the entire defensive line was his own - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 18:20:00
                    Beckner is the only DL that Pinkel recruited - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11 18:33:50
                         And that led to their amazing 2005 revamp that got Daniel - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 18:38:08
                              Hindsight is great because after 2004 GP became - wu-tangtiger MU - 10/11 18:53:37
                                   I'm not here to fire him today. I know there are - alwaysright MU - 10/12 07:30:10
                                   What don't you like about BO? (nm) - zounami MU - 10/11 19:01:51
          One your 1st point, you kind of proved mine that he quit - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 17:49:49
               GP didn't compete with the best programs in the nation.... - zounami MU - 10/11 18:07:03
                    Look at this valiant struggle against Cognitive Dissonance - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 18:21:00
               That's why I didn't say it was wrong, but open for - alwaysright MU - 10/11 17:52:15
                    Ah.... gotcha. And Mike Kelly's use of the word 'quit' is - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 17:57:57
                         So yeah. I mean it was obvious that whatever recruiting - alwaysright MU - 10/12 07:18:49
     WADR: Wasn't Odom was Pinkel's choice? nm - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 10/11 17:23:43
          He may have been the only one on his staff the University - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 17:39:00
     What was our record his last year? And, - McKinneyTiger MU - 10/11 17:11:22
          Our record in 2015 was the same as 2012, before we went 11-1 - North co-co champs MU - 10/11 17:37:10
          recruiting rankings are not predictive - FootballRefugee MU - 10/11 17:22:55
     And that my friends - samclemens MU - 10/11 16:57:15
     fair & balanced(nm) - TigerA MU - 10/11 16:47:43




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