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I wouldn't characterize my posts as either frantic or gibber

Posted on: August 17, 2018 at 14:50:44 CT
JeffB MU
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ish, but to each his own I guess.

There are multiple moving parts and rising prices could actually be good if they were moderating problems from abnormally low prices, or slowing an economy that was overheated.

The effect of "sucking money out of consumers' pockets" is also somewhat offset by potential profits in stockholders' portfolios, more jobs in the oil sector and so on, but I think virtually all economists are going to agree that rising fuel prices are going to have a net braking effect on an economy. Relatively large and abrupt changes are generally more likely to have significant adverse effects.

In this case, that braking effect could be exacerbated by a generally increasing interest rate environment.

I do think that interest rates have been artificially low for quite some time & the market equilibrium may in fact be quite a bit higher than they currently are. But even if that is true, it doesn't mean that rising interest rates wouldn't also have a tendency to brake the economy.

But, if the economy is on the verge of overheating and heading into inflationary territory, a bit of braking could be a good thing, preventing a worse crash later.

The risk in my opinion, is that we are already in bubble territory and have been for quite some time. Even a moderate braking that would theoretically be more sustainable for the economy could be the pin ***** that pops the bubble that was blown back in Obama's time in office.

If you look at the unprecedented inflation in the money supply after the 2007-2008 financial crisis, it's easy to see why some economists say that we're living in the midst of "The Mother Of All Bubbles". Donald Trump seemed to believe we were during the election campaigns, of course.

If we are already in bubble territory, we're at risk of having that bubble or bubbles pop. Sometimes it doesn't take much to suddenly ***** a bubble.
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     Not really an issue for the US now that we are more or less - DoltfromSTL MU - 8/17 14:08:26
          The more independent we are the less time it will last. - GA Tiger MU - 8/17 16:22:43
          Thank God for shale and fracking - mu7176grad MU - 8/17 14:11:15
               They're moderating the increase, unless the Saudis et al are - JeffB MU - 8/17 14:21:54
               Amen! (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 8/17 14:12:55
          US gas prices have been going up, however, no? Wouldn't - JeffB MU - 8/17 14:10:04
               They're up and down... - DoltfromSTL MU - 8/17 14:12:15
                    Of course they are. We're in a world market. Many of the own - JeffB MU - 8/17 14:15:02
                         Your spouting frantic gibberish...Remain Calm and Carry On - DoltfromSTL MU - 8/17 14:21:48
                              I wouldn't characterize my posts as either frantic or gibber - JeffB MU - 8/17 14:50:44
     I remember $12 bbl oil - mu7176grad MU - 8/17 14:00:06
          Regardless of what the price 'should' be, movements of - JeffB MU - 8/17 14:06:27
               Not if we are not buying it (nm) - DoltfromSTL MU - 8/17 14:09:20
                    Gas prices have gone up some, no? Does that not take - JeffB MU - 8/17 14:12:49
                         or people drive less (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 8/17 14:27:35
                         Housing has gone up, automobiles have gone up, food prices - DoltfromSTL MU - 8/17 14:15:04
                              From a consumer's standpoint, increasing costs reduce - JeffB MU - 8/17 14:17:59
                                   You can say that about any commodity - meatiger MU - 8/17 14:22:56
                                        Oil is pretty unique with respect to the impact of price cha - JeffB MU - 8/17 15:09:48
                                             RE: Oil is pretty unique with respect to the impact of price cha - meatiger MU - 8/17 15:38:00
                                                  I was just pointing out prices had gone up & that it could - JeffB MU - 8/17 16:30:06
                                   Remain Calm... - DoltfromSTL MU - 8/17 14:22:21
     stop yelling (nm) - pickle MU - 8/17 13:46:06
          RE: stop yelling (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 8/17 14:46:38
          You should tell that to The Express who wrote the headline.(nm) - JeffB MU - 8/17 13:48:13
               I'm telling the person who posted it - pickle MU - 8/17 14:01:45
                    Ever the jerk aren't you? I'll take the source into account(nm) - JeffB MU - 8/17 14:03:21
                         i'm not the one yelling (nm) - pickle MU - 8/17 14:11:34
                              & yet you once again are being the obnoxious one. Congrats (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/17 14:18:54
                                   yelling is rude, fyi - pickle MU - 8/17 14:22:39
                                        pickle, you are the poster boy for the word 'rude'. (nm) - JeffB MU - 8/17 15:14:00
                                             this is about your behavior. own it (nm) - pickle MU - 8/17 15:16:53
          Which is why oil is still hanging on as our main - HandBanana MU - 8/17 13:58:20
          See sawing prices are not good for sure. Rising oil prices & - JeffB MU - 8/17 13:49:21
               RE: See sawing prices are not good for sure. Rising oil prices & - scan MU - 8/17 13:50:07




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