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war and the death penalty are neither self-defense (nm)
Posted on: March 9, 2018 at 08:58:15 CT
90Tiger
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Are you for the Sanctity of Life
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Silas
MU
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3/9 08:55:05
RE: Are you for the Sanctity of Life
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Alferd Packer
MU
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3/9 11:08:27
Democrats are the neocons today my friend. nm.
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MUTGR
MU
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3/9 10:00:27
Sanctity of Human Life is an objective truth.
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 08:57:14
... and for justice.(nm)
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Alferd Packer
MU
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3/9 10:57:28
That has always seemed a contraction to me
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 09:16:03
That isn't a contradiction at all
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/9 10:10:47
Ha ha ha
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 10:15:50
There are no conditions... the taking of human life is wrong
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 11:02:28
What funny stories you make up. You utilize the utilitarian
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 13:48:14
No. It would be wrong to deliberately kill an innocent perso
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 14:13:09
Yes, you can clearly protect life by taking it
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/9 10:20:25
BULLSHT (and then you come at me with "moral truths")
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 10:27:51
Who died and made Kant the arbiter of how to
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Alferd Packer
MU
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3/9 11:34:53
He is just the philosopher who happened to say something
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 11:37:10
rask gets emotional when he reads something that makes
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/9 11:39:46
What a tired old line you drag ou
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 13:51:04
It is not over my head
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/9 10:30:56
RE: It is not over my head
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 10:33:23
The evidence of certain moral truths held by nearly every
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/9 10:35:00
you just described natural rights - certain moral truths
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90Tiger
MU
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3/9 12:28:51
So what's your own stance, that human life is not sacred, or
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 09:21:01
Getting all particular are you?
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 09:42:46
You dodged the question, rask. A lot of words is not the
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 09:47:52
RE: You dodged the question, rask. A lot of words is not the
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 09:56:11
You are still not clearly answering the question, rask. I am
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 10:04:52
I have been clear about this forever dude
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 10:12:03
So you are a complete pacifist, believing that even if a
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 10:40:57
He has actually dropped the f bomb regarding the dead baby
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4TigersinMichigan
MU
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3/9 10:42:34
I haven't been to a good baby killing in years(nm)
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 13:33:25
war and the death penalty are neither self-defense (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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3/9 08:58:15
Often they are not, but they potentially can be. (nm)
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 09:00:51
Still contradictory(nm)
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 09:43:25
How is asserting that it is possible for capital punishment
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 09:53:36
Slow down hoss
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 09:59:57
'Resistance to being slain is encouraged, killing to prevent
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 10:06:52
Pretty much what I said
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raskolnikov
MU
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3/9 10:17:31
No (nm)
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pickle
MU
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3/9 09:17:49
Yet another unfounded, illogical assertion by pickle.
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 11:35:42
you don't understand rights and you never will (nm)
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pickle
MU
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3/9 12:05:17
Your dishonest dodging is duly noted. (nm)
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 12:37:10
the death penalty is never self-defense, Jeff. (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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3/9 09:02:01
Probably not in 1st world western cultures, but it would be
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 09:05:26
your logic has been described as tortured
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pickle
MU
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3/9 09:18:52
Whether my example is the best is irrelevant. Do you
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 09:22:24
the death penalty is murder, Jeff
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pickle
MU
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3/9 09:25:44
So you cannot put together a rational defense of your
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 09:34:49
jeff, you're so lost (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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3/9 09:38:01
It would seem that you are the one at a loss for an explanat
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 09:42:58
you don't know anything about rights
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pickle
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3/9 09:45:08
No. You join 90Tiger in once again substituting insults for
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 09:49:28
What insult, Jeff? (nm)
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pickle
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3/9 10:07:38
JEff, you don't understand rights. there isn't anything
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90Tiger
MU
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3/9 09:52:47
You aren't just making a fool of yourself to me, but are
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 09:59:55
what insults, Jeff? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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3/9 10:15:01
Your use of semantics as a dodge is no better than using
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 10:56:05
what insult, Jeff? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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3/9 11:04:00
Forget your meds again, pickle? Did you not read or
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 11:15:13
What insult, Jeff? (nm)
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pickle
MU
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3/9 11:53:56
RE: What insult, Jeff? (nm)
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 11:56:03
copy and paste the insult(s), word for word, Jeff (nm)
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pickle
MU
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3/9 12:04:33
You seem to be having issues here pickle... honesty issues.
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 12:57:53
You've accused 90 and i of insulting you
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pickle
MU
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3/9 13:28:13
No. I already told you what I considered to be insults... as
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 17:42:00
no, your fallacy shows your ignorance of rights (nm)
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pickle
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3/9 09:36:51
Yet again you substitute insults for a rational explanation
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JeffB
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3/9 09:52:07
what insult, Jeff? (nm)
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pickle
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3/9 09:55:39
lol (nm)
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90Tiger
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3/9 09:06:24
Well, if you think it's absolutely impossible to ever be
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JeffB
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3/9 09:08:10
it's never possible for the death penalty to be self-defense
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90Tiger
MU
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3/9 09:09:25
because he doesn't understand rights
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pickle
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3/9 09:19:31
Says the guy who thinks mothers have a 'right' to deliberate
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JeffB
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3/9 09:23:21
more evidence you don't understand rights (nm)
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90Tiger
MU
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3/9 09:31:48
Your inability to logically defend his position is evidence
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JeffB
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3/9 10:57:37
this is an example of your not understanding rights (nm)
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pickle
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3/9 09:26:35
Says the guy who refuses to explain the blatant contradictio
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JeffB
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3/9 09:40:11
the explanation is right there in the post your linked
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pickle
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3/9 09:53:58
No it's not. It is no more a justification for a 'right' to
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JeffB
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3/9 10:14:27
you don't understand rights
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pickle
MU
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3/9 10:16:05
Even if that were all true, you are still demonstrating your
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 11:21:54
use the search feature, Jeff
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pickle
MU
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3/9 12:03:57
No, pickle, the burden of proof is on you to explain the
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JeffB
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3/9 13:08:24
LMFAO (nm)
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pickle
MU
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3/9 13:29:49
More dishonest dancing and dodging from pickle. (nm)
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JeffB
MU
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3/9 17:44:18