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Believe a big part of that was his Toledo legacy of beating

Posted on: April 2, 2017 at 19:38:59 CT

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Penn State. He believed in speed and quickness at every position at the expense of brute size. His quick Toledo team took down a huge, slow footed Nittany Lion team like David took down Goliath. He never forgot that.

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Pinkel's philosophy never changed - samclemens MU

- 4/2 17:07:28

Gary was about protecting the ball, field position and - Erwin Fletcher STL - 4/4 23:01:22

RE: Pinkel's philosophy never changed - Ragarm MU - 4/3 08:13:08

DGB, Gabbert, Sheldon, Damien Nash, Maclin - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/2 19:50:17

With the exception of Maclin and Gabbert he pretty much - Emoji Man MSU - 4/2 23:35:06

ludicrous - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/3 12:37:02

Nash's comments were 100% correct. Gary had his - alwaysright MU - 4/3 07:16:21

Funny you mention that; as it's pretty much the truth - samclemens MU

- 4/3 05:48:07

Gladly embraced any top recruits he could get - samclemens MU

- 4/2 19:52:20

I remember his attitude after a loss as being - Nohawks MU - 4/2 20:02:20

Gary: This is on us, we have to do a better job. - alwaysright MU - 4/3 07:18:46

Well the question there could be - Nohawks MU - 4/3 08:29:04

Most coaches are stubborn. Gary was particularly so. - alwaysright MU - 4/3 17:27:26

So was his wife. - Gary P. MU - 4/2 23:09:08

correct, but I really don't hear any P5 coach say that - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/2 19:56:57

OK. So this is good, upbeat, optimistic Sam - Nohawks MU - 4/2 19:14:51

Then my head will explode (nm) - samclemens MU

- 4/2 19:36:31

RE: Pinkel's philosophy never changed - sarasotatiger MU - 4/2 19:06:56

RE: completely wrong- he didn't care star ratings nm - largetiger MU - 4/2 18:48:54

Execution would almost always trump raw talent - samclemens MU

- 4/2 18:49:55

"he didn't give a hoot about talent" -- that's not accurate. - Gary P. MU - 4/2 18:33:27

All things being equal I believe he felt he could win - samclemens MU

- 4/2 18:48:39

He recruited raw talent and taught them football - STLTIGER MU - 4/2 20:04:50

nail hits hammer. You're absolutely right (nm) - samclemens MU

- 4/3 05:45:45

All things aren't equal and when Pinkel struggled it was - MUTGR MU - 4/2 19:55:04

Pinkel did have a plan and a system though - MakeShift MU - 4/2 20:07:37

RE: Pinkel did have a plan and a system though - MUTGR MU - 4/2 20:23:24

I somewhat follow your point - MakeShift MU - 4/2 19:36:00

Believe a big part of that was his Toledo legacy of beating - samclemens MU

- 4/2 19:38:59

WHAT ABOUT STARS?????????????????????????/// - Mothball MU - 4/2 19:33:00

The problem is that we need to rise above Pinkel - Evenflow MU - 4/2 17:16:53

STARS!!!!!11 - Mothball MU - 4/2 19:33:27

Baby steps - samclemens MU

- 4/2 18:21:30

There's really no excuse or need for us to be taking - Evenflow MU - 4/2 19:16:19

You have a whacked sense of reality - Nohawks MU - 4/2 19:42:23

This type of attitude is why we're not succesful. - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:08:20

No you don't even come close to getting it - Nohawks MU - 4/2 20:29:23

Not sure why you're getting so mad over this. - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:34:43

I not mad. I'm pointing out what seems to allude you - Nohawks MU - 4/2 20:39:39

I would like us to get really serious about sports. - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:41:39

OK. Define "get really serious about sports" - Nohawks MU - 4/2 20:44:12

Well, I want us to spend cash on the best coaches - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:46:25

Great. Thats a starting point - Nohawks MU - 4/2 20:50:16

We apparently have cash, see for example - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:57:39

We are throwing it at the hoops program no doubt - Nohawks MU - 4/2 21:03:43

I like Odom fine, and - Evenflow MU - 4/2 21:56:32

I have no issues with you here - Nohawks MU - 4/3 08:24:22

fans on a message board impact the results?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/2 20:23:44

I know it's Sunday night Bill. - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:39:02

I wasn't trying to be clever - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/2 20:42:59

My posting on this issue is totally clear and to the point.(nm) - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:44:46

No. It isn't - Nohawks MU - 4/2 21:31:31

haha, I'm 35 years old man(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/2 21:34:20

Damn. Hate to say it - Nohawks MU - 4/2 21:35:54

haha, you really thought I was old?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/2 21:36:36

Honestly I had no idea - Nohawks MU - 4/2 21:38:26

Evenflow is much closer to your age than mine - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/2 21:40:49

You sure by reading his posts - Nohawks MU - 4/2 21:43:23

More insults. - Evenflow MU - 4/2 21:59:49

Huh ? So anyone who doesn't agree with you - Nohawks MU - 4/3 08:20:56

almost positive - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/2 21:51:03

No, Bill, I'm 25 and haven't owned a BMW yet. (nm) - Evenflow MU - 4/2 22:00:58

you have a Grand Marquis though, right?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/2 22:09:13

No, but I had a lot of Crown Vic rentals back in the Day. - Evenflow MU - 4/2 22:15:29

that people that understand we're in the bottom 1/4 - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/2 20:46:36

Excellent post - MakeShift MU - 4/2 19:45:01

Thats another factor I forgot - Nohawks MU - 4/2 19:58:18

Another lame excuse. - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:15:33

You may need to find another team - Nohawks MU - 4/2 20:32:09

Do you drive a BMW? - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:36:37

RE: Do you drive a BMW? - sarasotatiger MU - 4/5 19:06:33

I'm not the one pouting about our football program - Nohawks MU - 4/2 20:40:29

Seems like you're the one having emotional difficulties - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:43:31

You sure ? - Nohawks MU - 4/2 20:46:31

Well, I don't think Cuonzo is elite either. - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:51:38

I'm starting to think you're one strange dude - Nohawks MU - 4/2 20:54:20

We have the #1 player in the nation already. - Evenflow MU - 4/2 20:56:30

Operative word "could" - Nohawks MU - 4/2 21:00:28

Pinkel signed the #1 player in the country - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/2 20:57:51

That's right! Unlike everyone else, we got a huge head start - Gary P. MU - 4/2 19:30:53