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Posted on: January 18, 2017 at 17:11:36 CT
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Takes the slow or fast pace argument out of the equation. That's why everyone reference kenpom.

I honestly couldn't care less how you think his team looked at SMS 9 years ago. We have real games against real teams to evaluate now.

I don't think anyone is arguing he is perfect. Mizzou will not get a perfect coach because we're not a blue blood. But I think Cuonzo offers enough in terms of recruiting and coaching to be a great hire for us, and I think he's a realistic get.
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Cuonzo would be the black version of Norm - JimTom USA - 1/18 16:44:10
     No. He's not an alum - Doc Stone MU - 1/18 18:16:14
     zounami lives rent-free in FMB's head (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 18:05:05
     sounds great to me nm - Sweetboymitch MU - 1/18 17:45:03
     RE: Miss on inste national talent, first round exits - cybertyger MU - 1/18 17:36:35
     Once the NCAA expanded the field to 64 Norm had Missouri - alstl MU - 1/18 17:20:59
     I don't watch Cal but Cuonzo's defense at SMS - alwaysright MU - 1/18 16:50:41
          Top 20 3 of the last 4 years - Eggs MU - 1/18 17:03:09
               And he has won more games every year at every stop - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:05:54
                    Pay him enough so he'll never leave - Eggs MU - 1/18 17:08:08
                         We can do better - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:08:38
                              History says probably won't - Eggs MU - 1/18 17:11:03
                                   Can and will are not always the same, as we've seen - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:12:31
          He has elite defenses now. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 16:58:04
          Well he has a top 10 defense now - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 16:54:22
               Well. - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:04:10
                    Tempo free stats are the most relevant - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:11:36
                         Kenpom does a great job of evaluating teams - Eggs MU - 1/18 17:14:40
                              Kenpom does a good job, but no stats are - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:15:36
                         RE: Tempo free stats are the most relevant - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:13:09
                              You seem like you've made your mind up on him - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:14:01
                                   I have. We could do worse, but we can do better - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:14:36
                                        Our reality will likely be much worse (nm) - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:15:48
                                             Maybe. I'll rather shoot for big than settle for - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:17:19
                                                  Who do you want to shoot for? (nm) - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:19:03
                                                       RE: Who do you want to shoot for? (nm) - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:25:46
                                                            Marshall is a pipe dream. Miller likely is too - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:35:25
                                                                 In 2017, I agree on Marshall. - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:37:48
                                                                      So then we get to the next tier of realistic candidates - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:38:43
                                                                           Like i said, we can do a lot worse than Cuonzo Martin, but - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:41:42
               Beter p.ayers maybe. Guess he is headed to the final 4 - tman KC - 1/18 16:55:23
                    Better players and coaching likely improved with experience - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:01:35
                         Maybe. But keep in mind that means better players than - tman KC - 1/18 17:03:51
                              Yes and he won more SEC games than anyone while at UT - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:07:13
                                   Mixing the point. His defense sucked at TN - tman KC - 1/18 17:11:17
                                        20 in defensive efficiency his last year at TN - Eggs MU - 1/18 17:12:35
                                        Top 20 national defense "sucks"? - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:12:29
                                             How about year before? How many games did he win?(nm) - tman KC - 1/18 17:13:46
                                                  In year 2 after taking over for Pearl's disaster? - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:15:22
                                                       Ah. So now we change topics again - tman KC - 1/18 17:18:47
                                                            Re: - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:36:18
                                                                 Seems pretty straight forward to me(nm) - tman KC - 1/18 17:38:31
     Greg Marshall is the closest current version of Norm - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 16:48:49
     Norm was the black version of Norm - tman KC - 1/18 16:47:33
          Some of these posts are amazing - MakeShift MU - 1/18 17:06:14
               It was inappropriate for the OP to mention race. I reported - zounami MU - 1/18 17:18:20
                    How is it inappropriate to mention that Martin is black? - haeffb MU - 1/18 17:22:41
                         "This is my black colleague, Michael." - zounami MU - 1/18 17:41:13
                              Nobody said "Cuonzo Martin, the black coach." - haeffb MU - 1/18 17:46:14
                                   "Cuonzo Martin, the black version of another coach" was said - zounami MU - 1/18 17:48:34
                         How is it inappropriate to say tman is scary stupid? - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:37:50
                              Cuonzo isn't a poster on this board - haeffb MU - 1/18 17:41:19
                                   How do you know if Cuonzo is or is not a poster here? - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:43:11
                                        Mod Skillz - haeffb MU - 1/18 17:47:37
     with much greater potential to reach a Final Four. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 16:46:22
          Certainly now he does with Norm retired (nm) - MUTGR MU - 1/18 16:48:21
               Norm could not reach a Final Four, even in his prime. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 16:52:59
                    Neither has conzo.hasn't sniffed it - tman KC - 1/18 16:54:22
                         Cuonzo is likely never going to make a - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:11:33
                              He's already come pretty close, early in his career, and he - zounami MU - 1/18 17:15:43
                                   Quin got better every year as well - tman KC - 1/18 17:23:47
                              He came 2 points away from making the Elite Eight - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:13:31
                                   I didn't say he wouldnt. Would be a fun bet - tman KC - 1/18 17:14:47
                                        I'll take that bet and even give you 3:2 odds. How much do - zounami MU - 1/18 17:17:04
                                             That he makes a final four - tman KC - 1/18 17:22:18
                                                  Tell you what. Let's make the terms as follows... - zounami MU - 1/18 17:30:25
                                                       Do you have proof of funds? - tman KC - 1/18 17:34:42
                                                            Yes, liquid assets in orders of magnitude of that amount. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 17:36:12
                                                                 Send proof via PM. You will be without them for many years - tman KC - 1/18 17:39:26
                                                                      As a good faith measure, you send me your proof of - zounami MU - 1/18 17:42:21
                                                                           I have to draft the document and send you proof first? - tman KC - 1/18 17:44:13
                                                                                By the way, you remind me of kctgrs... I think you might - zounami MU - 1/18 17:55:22
                                                                                Any that shows you have liquid assets of an amount that - zounami MU - 1/18 17:47:18
                                                                                     Think what you want(nm) - tman KC - 1/18 17:57:54
                                                  An escrow service would be better. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 17:27:17
                                                       A big bank will do it. Cash deposited up front - tman KC - 1/18 17:31:25
                                                            Yeah, it's called escrow... - zounami MU - 1/18 17:34:34
                                                                 You seem to think banks do this on a daily basis - tman KC - 1/18 17:37:34
                                                                      Let me know when it's ready to go... (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 17:38:26
                                                                           I will start drafting upon receipt of proof of funds - tman KC - 1/18 17:40:06
                                                                                I will do so after a good faith measure from you... - zounami MU - 1/18 17:43:02
                         Since he is still coaching, and since Norm was never able - zounami MU - 1/18 16:57:33
                              Well he is still coaching so of course he has a chance - tman KC - 1/18 17:02:48
                                   He coached at SMSU, not a program like Butler. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 17:06:45
                                        So. Who had heard of VCU or even Butler - tman KC - 1/18 17:12:45
          Because he has been so close(nm) - tman KC - 1/18 16:47:57
     A good basketball coach? Agree(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/18 16:44:38
          Hard ass defensive coach (nm) - JimTom USA - 1/18 16:46:27




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