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Posted on: January 18, 2017 at 17:04:10 CT
alwaysright MU
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His SoS is pretty low among major conferences. He is winless against top 50 teams.
His last team at SMS, that won the Valley, only gave up 63 ppg. Does not mean his defense was great. He plays a slow pace.
I understand you are reference Kenpom's D-efficiency to say that they're top 10 and that theoretically takes pace of play out of the equation. But there is always more to it that stats. Does he still have his center trap beyond the top of the key and routinely get beat down the lane for layups trying to recover?
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Cuonzo would be the black version of Norm - JimTom USA - 1/18 16:44:10
     No. He's not an alum - Doc Stone MU - 1/18 18:16:14
     zounami lives rent-free in FMB's head (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 18:05:05
     sounds great to me nm - Sweetboymitch MU - 1/18 17:45:03
     RE: Miss on inste national talent, first round exits - cybertyger MU - 1/18 17:36:35
     Once the NCAA expanded the field to 64 Norm had Missouri - alstl MU - 1/18 17:20:59
     I don't watch Cal but Cuonzo's defense at SMS - alwaysright MU - 1/18 16:50:41
          Top 20 3 of the last 4 years - Eggs MU - 1/18 17:03:09
               And he has won more games every year at every stop - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:05:54
                    Pay him enough so he'll never leave - Eggs MU - 1/18 17:08:08
                         We can do better - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:08:38
                              History says probably won't - Eggs MU - 1/18 17:11:03
                                   Can and will are not always the same, as we've seen - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:12:31
          He has elite defenses now. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 16:58:04
          Well he has a top 10 defense now - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 16:54:22
               Well. - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:04:10
                    Tempo free stats are the most relevant - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:11:36
                         Kenpom does a great job of evaluating teams - Eggs MU - 1/18 17:14:40
                              Kenpom does a good job, but no stats are - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:15:36
                         RE: Tempo free stats are the most relevant - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:13:09
                              You seem like you've made your mind up on him - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:14:01
                                   I have. We could do worse, but we can do better - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:14:36
                                        Our reality will likely be much worse (nm) - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:15:48
                                             Maybe. I'll rather shoot for big than settle for - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:17:19
                                                  Who do you want to shoot for? (nm) - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:19:03
                                                       RE: Who do you want to shoot for? (nm) - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:25:46
                                                            Marshall is a pipe dream. Miller likely is too - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:35:25
                                                                 In 2017, I agree on Marshall. - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:37:48
                                                                      So then we get to the next tier of realistic candidates - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:38:43
                                                                           Like i said, we can do a lot worse than Cuonzo Martin, but - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:41:42
               Beter p.ayers maybe. Guess he is headed to the final 4 - tman KC - 1/18 16:55:23
                    Better players and coaching likely improved with experience - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:01:35
                         Maybe. But keep in mind that means better players than - tman KC - 1/18 17:03:51
                              Yes and he won more SEC games than anyone while at UT - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:07:13
                                   Mixing the point. His defense sucked at TN - tman KC - 1/18 17:11:17
                                        20 in defensive efficiency his last year at TN - Eggs MU - 1/18 17:12:35
                                        Top 20 national defense "sucks"? - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:12:29
                                             How about year before? How many games did he win?(nm) - tman KC - 1/18 17:13:46
                                                  In year 2 after taking over for Pearl's disaster? - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:15:22
                                                       Ah. So now we change topics again - tman KC - 1/18 17:18:47
                                                            Re: - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:36:18
                                                                 Seems pretty straight forward to me(nm) - tman KC - 1/18 17:38:31
     Greg Marshall is the closest current version of Norm - FIJItiger MU - 1/18 16:48:49
     Norm was the black version of Norm - tman KC - 1/18 16:47:33
          Some of these posts are amazing - MakeShift MU - 1/18 17:06:14
               It was inappropriate for the OP to mention race. I reported - zounami MU - 1/18 17:18:20
                    How is it inappropriate to mention that Martin is black? - haeffb MU - 1/18 17:22:41
                         "This is my black colleague, Michael." - zounami MU - 1/18 17:41:13
                              Nobody said "Cuonzo Martin, the black coach." - haeffb MU - 1/18 17:46:14
                                   "Cuonzo Martin, the black version of another coach" was said - zounami MU - 1/18 17:48:34
                         How is it inappropriate to say tman is scary stupid? - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:37:50
                              Cuonzo isn't a poster on this board - haeffb MU - 1/18 17:41:19
                                   How do you know if Cuonzo is or is not a poster here? - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:43:11
                                        Mod Skillz - haeffb MU - 1/18 17:47:37
     with much greater potential to reach a Final Four. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 16:46:22
          Certainly now he does with Norm retired (nm) - MUTGR MU - 1/18 16:48:21
               Norm could not reach a Final Four, even in his prime. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 16:52:59
                    Neither has conzo.hasn't sniffed it - tman KC - 1/18 16:54:22
                         Cuonzo is likely never going to make a - alwaysright MU - 1/18 17:11:33
                              He's already come pretty close, early in his career, and he - zounami MU - 1/18 17:15:43
                                   Quin got better every year as well - tman KC - 1/18 17:23:47
                              He came 2 points away from making the Elite Eight - Johnny Utah MU - 1/18 17:13:31
                                   I didn't say he wouldnt. Would be a fun bet - tman KC - 1/18 17:14:47
                                        I'll take that bet and even give you 3:2 odds. How much do - zounami MU - 1/18 17:17:04
                                             That he makes a final four - tman KC - 1/18 17:22:18
                                                  Tell you what. Let's make the terms as follows... - zounami MU - 1/18 17:30:25
                                                       Do you have proof of funds? - tman KC - 1/18 17:34:42
                                                            Yes, liquid assets in orders of magnitude of that amount. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 17:36:12
                                                                 Send proof via PM. You will be without them for many years - tman KC - 1/18 17:39:26
                                                                      As a good faith measure, you send me your proof of - zounami MU - 1/18 17:42:21
                                                                           I have to draft the document and send you proof first? - tman KC - 1/18 17:44:13
                                                                                By the way, you remind me of kctgrs... I think you might - zounami MU - 1/18 17:55:22
                                                                                Any that shows you have liquid assets of an amount that - zounami MU - 1/18 17:47:18
                                                                                     Think what you want(nm) - tman KC - 1/18 17:57:54
                                                  An escrow service would be better. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 17:27:17
                                                       A big bank will do it. Cash deposited up front - tman KC - 1/18 17:31:25
                                                            Yeah, it's called escrow... - zounami MU - 1/18 17:34:34
                                                                 You seem to think banks do this on a daily basis - tman KC - 1/18 17:37:34
                                                                      Let me know when it's ready to go... (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 17:38:26
                                                                           I will start drafting upon receipt of proof of funds - tman KC - 1/18 17:40:06
                                                                                I will do so after a good faith measure from you... - zounami MU - 1/18 17:43:02
                         Since he is still coaching, and since Norm was never able - zounami MU - 1/18 16:57:33
                              Well he is still coaching so of course he has a chance - tman KC - 1/18 17:02:48
                                   He coached at SMSU, not a program like Butler. (nm) - zounami MU - 1/18 17:06:45
                                        So. Who had heard of VCU or even Butler - tman KC - 1/18 17:12:45
          Because he has been so close(nm) - tman KC - 1/18 16:47:57
     A good basketball coach? Agree(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 1/18 16:44:38
          Hard ass defensive coach (nm) - JimTom USA - 1/18 16:46:27




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