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Well that will be a nice parting/retirement gift for him

Posted on: November 8, 2016 at 15:14:39 CT
FIJItiger MU
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I'm sure that will be comforting as he reflects back on destroying the life work of his mentor.

Actually, countless players pre-Kim have gone on to be upstanding citizens and graduated from MU. Just like every era has guys who don't/can't cut it. What is different about this era is our on the court product is so terrible and the program has been cratered, so you are looking for tangent aspects which haven't been failures to the same degree to justify it in your mind.

Kim didn't hold Clark up to any standard. He was on academic probation, didn't live up to his end of the deal, and was dismissed. The only role Kim and staff played is not ensuring that he lived up to the conditions of his probation, and then the resulting failure from the fallout of losing another key player.

Edited by FIJItiger at 15:15:03 on 11/08/16
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Torren Jones turns up in the NAIA - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:41:34
     Why did he leave Fresno St.?(nm) - kietzmanh8r MU - 11/10 14:20:45
     goodness, 21 guys on the roster, 30 guys on the JV team. - CoolBreeze22 MU - 11/8 23:54:10
          Yeah, 51 guys... - AlleyCat KC - 11/9 05:21:06
     Who? - Mr. Orange SU - 11/8 16:29:17
     Been awhile since I've been here, could someone post a - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 15:43:01
          RE: Been awhile since I've been here, could someone post a - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:49:05
          Think this is right, off the top of my head - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:46:03
               and 4 of them even remotely matter. - alwaysright MU - 11/8 21:03:27
               What's up with Clark and Allen not being enrolled anywhere? - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 15:55:17
                    Gant made a lateral move - quicksand MU - 11/8 18:52:18
                         I'm curious what you think I said. - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 22:25:10
                    Ain't nobody want them haifers! - Mr. Orange SU - 11/8 16:30:58
                    Basically ensures we will incur APR penalties(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 16:01:50
                         There hasn't been any news or rumors on why they haven't - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 16:11:42
                              They both had kids. Think they just both done with - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 16:17:39
                                   Feefee-Wes Clark & D Allen spokesperson(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 16:21:18
               Kind of crazy to have this many players leave - Eggs MU - 11/8 15:52:20
                    Of those who transferred to D-1 teams - quicksand MU - 11/8 19:23:15
                    We have ruined a lot of playing careers recently (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 16:03:15
                         I disagree, players find a way to work things out - Eggs MU - 11/8 16:21:09
                              that is still 3 years nearly wasted, and not approaching - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 16:27:14
                         That's silly. Torren and Cam are clearly their own worst - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 16:09:35
                              ruined is probably too strong - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 16:24:16
                    That is weird.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 15:58:10
     How many freaking people are on that team?(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:05:52
          They will have to kick 6 off during the season.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 15:07:31
               Torren will probably be one given his history(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:24:53
          19 juniors and seniors, very upper class dominated(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:06:51
               I think it's 20 counting the 3 redshirts, crazy(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:14:56
     RE: Torren Jones turns up in the NAIA - StlWeir MU - 11/8 15:04:08
     How do people get that stupid. Like, "Hey, I gotta chance - GA Tiger MU - 11/8 13:59:41
          Shoot, they all think they are NBA bound.(nm) - MIZZOU_FANATIC MU - 11/8 15:27:52
               Watched that Beyond Scared Straight show and - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:32:18
                    And there are at least a couple million like him. - GA Tiger MU - 11/8 16:44:40
                         Thug lifeeeee(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 16:50:41
          They started out stupid. A little or no parenting from the - SabertoothTiger MU - 11/8 14:42:36
               His bio says Parents: Cheryl....so yeah no dad(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:15:21
               Think his brother is becoming a big time recruit - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:47:56
                    Of course we got the knucklehead of the family(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 17:27:10
          and when they do it'll be someon else's fault(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 11/8 14:09:46
          Happens at just about every school, sad kids - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:06:41
     This is hilarious, a kid you said would help Haith win 20 - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 13:49:21
          RE: This is hilarious, a kid you said would help Haith win 20 - StlWeir MU - 11/8 15:06:25
          Acutally, I really liked Jones. It's too bad he didn't have - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:19:18
               I loved him.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:19:45
                    I probably would have if he had been able to stick around - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:25:21
                    ^^^ Torren Jones' butt buddy(nm) - markymarksthirdnipple STL - 11/8 14:23:11
          He would have helped. He wasn't going to be a starter but - tgr MU - 11/8 13:59:53
               How is it KA's fault that Torren can't follow the law? - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:04:50
                    Because that's his job? They are his players. - tgr MU - 11/8 14:12:23
                         His job is to coach basketball; - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:16:56
                              Wes Clark was on academic probation all of last year - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:23:41
                                   Logic fail - haeffb MU - 11/8 17:57:46
                                   Exactly. I cannot find an example of another coach losing - tgr MU - 11/8 14:27:37
                                        How many of those 12 really mattered - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/8 15:41:33
                                        Scott Drew took over at a much different time, - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:50:57
                                             LOL. Yeah, it's the transfer epedimic! That's why we set - tgr MU - 11/8 14:55:09
                                                  What a silly narrative. - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:56:38
                                        You know what else you can't find another example of - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:40:23
                                   You can't do a kid's work for him, that's what KU does - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:27:03
                                        Making sure someone goes to class is not doing their - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:34:54
                                             A kid can go to class and still flunk out, - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:44:16
                                                  Well that isn't what happened here - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:46:23
                                                       RE: Well that isn't what happened here - StlWeir MU - 11/9 09:18:21
                                                       Oh yes tell me more about how a college student - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:55:12
                                                            I've got pertinent info on this subject.... - kctgrs MU - 11/8 15:04:10
                                                            Cool. Well it is going to result in more failure for Kim for - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:58:34
                                                                 Hey at least if he fails, he fails knowing he held kids - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:10:23
                                                                      Well that will be a nice parting/retirement gift for him - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:14:39
                                                                           According to you he should've held clark's hand - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:22:47
                                                                                At least 2, maybe 3 seperate times in this thread alone - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:30:06
                                                                                     I'm pretty sure Norm disagrees with you.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 15:34:39
                                                                                          Sure, obviously Coaches for Cancer too - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:38:24
                                                       He was a piece of poop.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:47:40
                                                            That is crap man. When players were quitting on the - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:51:16
                                                                 RE: That is crap man. When players were quitting on the - StlWeir MU - 11/9 09:21:37
                                                                 You're ridiculous, so because he played hard, - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:12:31
                                                                      No offense, you are clearly more a fan of Kim than MU(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:17:00
                                                                           No offense, I am a fan of both unlike you, who is a fan of - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:23:31
                                                                 He may have until he broke his arm, but last year he was a - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:53:53
                                                                      Of course he wasn't good enough. He is like a - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:57:01
                                                                           Sorry I don't worship Frank Haiths crap.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 15:28:32
                                                                                Wes Clark was an MU player (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:30:52
                                                                           The staff was left with him, and a bunch of other losers - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:16:56
                                                                                One thing I think we can all agree on - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:19:47
                                                                                     Shoulda hired you, you seem to have all the answers - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:25:35
                                                                                          No thanks, I'm not a basketball coach and certainly - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:31:19
                                                                                               You are not a rural High School Coach either.(nm) - ROLLATIGER MU - 11/8 20:24:24
                                                                           HAHAHA!!! fefe is getting his panties in a wad!(nm) - kctgrs MU - 11/8 15:02:28
                                             When I was in college 15+ years ago the academic support - tgr MU - 11/8 14:41:40
                                        So 12 players were all bad eggs? It was all the player's - StaleyTiger MU - 11/8 14:30:33
                              No other program in the country has had the level of - tgr MU - 11/8 14:23:28
                                   The transfer issue is widespread genius, - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:33:13
                         Damn you're a genius(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:13:40
                    you're having trouble following this conversation (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/8 14:06:29
                         Uhhh no, I answered a good portion of his "attrition" - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:10:15
          What is hilarious about MU's program falling apart? (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:53:23
               You still don't see why Haith was the destroyer?(nm) - SuperTone MU - 11/8 14:12:54
                    And he still is bothered more by losing to UMKC than Norfolk - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:19:18
                    No, that is a silly narrative. The destruction of our - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:18:07
                         Why didn't you answer my post then? - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:24:17
                              What is your question? - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:29:34
                                   That answers no questions, I could tell Eric Prisbell - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:41:30
                                        20 games? Do you realize how low of a benchmark - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:43:38
                              Well played sir. - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:26:58
                         The downward spiral of MU basketball started with Haith. - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:23:42
                              "A homicide"....lol hyperbole much?(nm) - tigersfan MU - 11/8 14:34:06
                                   normally only on Sundays - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:37:38
                              That is an example of a silly narrative I don't subscribe to - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:27:06
                                   So because you refuse to subscribe it's a silly narrative - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:31:04
                                        Can you give an example of why you feel he didn't - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:33:38
                                             Nope - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:36:20
                                                  Its the latter. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:37:17
                                                       Haha. You truly are entertaining at times. - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:38:53
                                                            Good thing you know more that the NCAA that - tigersfan MU - 11/8 14:49:51
                                                                 Reading the outcome of an investigation... got it. - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:52:07
               It's hilarious because you refuse to aknowledge - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:00:58
     when did he get booted from FSU?(nm) - SuperTone MU - 11/8 13:44:40
          RE: when did he get booted from FSU?(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:52:31
               He's a two-time loser...hopefully, he gets it right - Mormad MU - 11/8 14:21:21




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