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No, that is a silly narrative. The destruction of our

Posted on: November 8, 2016 at 14:18:07 CT
FIJItiger MU
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program can be tied very easily to a single event, hiring a DII basketball coach. That isn't a difficult root cause analysis to conduct or a timeline to create. The only surprising occurrence would have been if that didn't end up destroying our basketball program.
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Torren Jones turns up in the NAIA - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:41:34
     Why did he leave Fresno St.?(nm) - kietzmanh8r MU - 11/10 14:20:45
     goodness, 21 guys on the roster, 30 guys on the JV team. - CoolBreeze22 MU - 11/8 23:54:10
          Yeah, 51 guys... - AlleyCat KC - 11/9 05:21:06
     Who? - Mr. Orange SU - 11/8 16:29:17
     Been awhile since I've been here, could someone post a - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 15:43:01
          RE: Been awhile since I've been here, could someone post a - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:49:05
          Think this is right, off the top of my head - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:46:03
               and 4 of them even remotely matter. - alwaysright MU - 11/8 21:03:27
               What's up with Clark and Allen not being enrolled anywhere? - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 15:55:17
                    Gant made a lateral move - quicksand MU - 11/8 18:52:18
                         I'm curious what you think I said. - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 22:25:10
                    Ain't nobody want them haifers! - Mr. Orange SU - 11/8 16:30:58
                    Basically ensures we will incur APR penalties(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 16:01:50
                         There hasn't been any news or rumors on why they haven't - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 16:11:42
                              They both had kids. Think they just both done with - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 16:17:39
                                   Feefee-Wes Clark & D Allen spokesperson(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 16:21:18
               Kind of crazy to have this many players leave - Eggs MU - 11/8 15:52:20
                    Of those who transferred to D-1 teams - quicksand MU - 11/8 19:23:15
                    We have ruined a lot of playing careers recently (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 16:03:15
                         I disagree, players find a way to work things out - Eggs MU - 11/8 16:21:09
                              that is still 3 years nearly wasted, and not approaching - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 16:27:14
                         That's silly. Torren and Cam are clearly their own worst - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 16:09:35
                              ruined is probably too strong - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 16:24:16
                    That is weird.(nm) - Mizzmi27 MU - 11/8 15:58:10
     How many freaking people are on that team?(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:05:52
          They will have to kick 6 off during the season.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 15:07:31
               Torren will probably be one given his history(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:24:53
          19 juniors and seniors, very upper class dominated(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:06:51
               I think it's 20 counting the 3 redshirts, crazy(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:14:56
     RE: Torren Jones turns up in the NAIA - StlWeir MU - 11/8 15:04:08
     How do people get that stupid. Like, "Hey, I gotta chance - GA Tiger MU - 11/8 13:59:41
          Shoot, they all think they are NBA bound.(nm) - MIZZOU_FANATIC MU - 11/8 15:27:52
               Watched that Beyond Scared Straight show and - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:32:18
                    And there are at least a couple million like him. - GA Tiger MU - 11/8 16:44:40
                         Thug lifeeeee(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 16:50:41
          They started out stupid. A little or no parenting from the - SabertoothTiger MU - 11/8 14:42:36
               His bio says Parents: Cheryl....so yeah no dad(nm) - MidMoBaller4Life MU - 11/8 15:15:21
               Think his brother is becoming a big time recruit - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:47:56
                    Of course we got the knucklehead of the family(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 17:27:10
          and when they do it'll be someon else's fault(nm) - ajpe53 MU - 11/8 14:09:46
          Happens at just about every school, sad kids - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:06:41
     This is hilarious, a kid you said would help Haith win 20 - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 13:49:21
          RE: This is hilarious, a kid you said would help Haith win 20 - StlWeir MU - 11/8 15:06:25
          Acutally, I really liked Jones. It's too bad he didn't have - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:19:18
               I loved him.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:19:45
                    I probably would have if he had been able to stick around - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:25:21
                    ^^^ Torren Jones' butt buddy(nm) - markymarksthirdnipple STL - 11/8 14:23:11
          He would have helped. He wasn't going to be a starter but - tgr MU - 11/8 13:59:53
               How is it KA's fault that Torren can't follow the law? - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:04:50
                    Because that's his job? They are his players. - tgr MU - 11/8 14:12:23
                         His job is to coach basketball; - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:16:56
                              Wes Clark was on academic probation all of last year - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:23:41
                                   Logic fail - haeffb MU - 11/8 17:57:46
                                   Exactly. I cannot find an example of another coach losing - tgr MU - 11/8 14:27:37
                                        How many of those 12 really mattered - wu-tangtiger MU - 11/8 15:41:33
                                        Scott Drew took over at a much different time, - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:50:57
                                             LOL. Yeah, it's the transfer epedimic! That's why we set - tgr MU - 11/8 14:55:09
                                                  What a silly narrative. - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:56:38
                                        You know what else you can't find another example of - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:40:23
                                   You can't do a kid's work for him, that's what KU does - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:27:03
                                        Making sure someone goes to class is not doing their - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:34:54
                                             A kid can go to class and still flunk out, - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:44:16
                                                  Well that isn't what happened here - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:46:23
                                                       RE: Well that isn't what happened here - StlWeir MU - 11/9 09:18:21
                                                       Oh yes tell me more about how a college student - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:55:12
                                                            I've got pertinent info on this subject.... - kctgrs MU - 11/8 15:04:10
                                                            Cool. Well it is going to result in more failure for Kim for - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:58:34
                                                                 Hey at least if he fails, he fails knowing he held kids - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:10:23
                                                                      Well that will be a nice parting/retirement gift for him - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:14:39
                                                                           According to you he should've held clark's hand - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:22:47
                                                                                At least 2, maybe 3 seperate times in this thread alone - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:30:06
                                                                                     I'm pretty sure Norm disagrees with you.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 15:34:39
                                                                                          Sure, obviously Coaches for Cancer too - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:38:24
                                                       He was a piece of poop.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:47:40
                                                            That is crap man. When players were quitting on the - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:51:16
                                                                 RE: That is crap man. When players were quitting on the - StlWeir MU - 11/9 09:21:37
                                                                 You're ridiculous, so because he played hard, - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:12:31
                                                                      No offense, you are clearly more a fan of Kim than MU(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:17:00
                                                                           No offense, I am a fan of both unlike you, who is a fan of - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:23:31
                                                                 He may have until he broke his arm, but last year he was a - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:53:53
                                                                      Of course he wasn't good enough. He is like a - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:57:01
                                                                           Sorry I don't worship Frank Haiths crap.(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 15:28:32
                                                                                Wes Clark was an MU player (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:30:52
                                                                           The staff was left with him, and a bunch of other losers - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:16:56
                                                                                One thing I think we can all agree on - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:19:47
                                                                                     Shoulda hired you, you seem to have all the answers - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 15:25:35
                                                                                          No thanks, I'm not a basketball coach and certainly - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 15:31:19
                                                                                               You are not a rural High School Coach either.(nm) - ROLLATIGER MU - 11/8 20:24:24
                                                                           HAHAHA!!! fefe is getting his panties in a wad!(nm) - kctgrs MU - 11/8 15:02:28
                                             When I was in college 15+ years ago the academic support - tgr MU - 11/8 14:41:40
                                        So 12 players were all bad eggs? It was all the player's - StaleyTiger MU - 11/8 14:30:33
                              No other program in the country has had the level of - tgr MU - 11/8 14:23:28
                                   The transfer issue is widespread genius, - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:33:13
                         Damn you're a genius(nm) - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:13:40
                    you're having trouble following this conversation (nm) - 90Tiger MU - 11/8 14:06:29
                         Uhhh no, I answered a good portion of his "attrition" - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:10:15
          What is hilarious about MU's program falling apart? (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:53:23
               You still don't see why Haith was the destroyer?(nm) - SuperTone MU - 11/8 14:12:54
                    And he still is bothered more by losing to UMKC than Norfolk - Uncle John MU - 11/8 14:19:18
                    No, that is a silly narrative. The destruction of our - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:18:07
                         Why didn't you answer my post then? - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:24:17
                              What is your question? - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:29:34
                                   That answers no questions, I could tell Eric Prisbell - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:41:30
                                        20 games? Do you realize how low of a benchmark - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:43:38
                              Well played sir. - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:26:58
                         The downward spiral of MU basketball started with Haith. - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:23:42
                              "A homicide"....lol hyperbole much?(nm) - tigersfan MU - 11/8 14:34:06
                                   normally only on Sundays - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:37:38
                              That is an example of a silly narrative I don't subscribe to - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:27:06
                                   So because you refuse to subscribe it's a silly narrative - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:31:04
                                        Can you give an example of why you feel he didn't - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:33:38
                                             Nope - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:36:20
                                                  Its the latter. (nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 14:37:17
                                                       Haha. You truly are entertaining at times. - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:38:53
                                                            Good thing you know more that the NCAA that - tigersfan MU - 11/8 14:49:51
                                                                 Reading the outcome of an investigation... got it. - Nazfan MU - 11/8 14:52:07
               It's hilarious because you refuse to aknowledge - nerdmachine KC - 11/8 14:00:58
     when did he get booted from FSU?(nm) - SuperTone MU - 11/8 13:44:40
          RE: when did he get booted from FSU?(nm) - FIJItiger MU - 11/8 13:52:31
               He's a two-time loser...hopefully, he gets it right - Mormad MU - 11/8 14:21:21




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