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Compared to some SEC states and Texas - Yes

Posted on: August 18, 2016 at 16:17:53 CT
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Football is simply not as important in Missouri's (the state) culture as it is in the culture of Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, etc. Therefore, it doesn't get as much interest, support and participation as football in those states and produces fewer (in both actual and relative terms) top prospects as those states do.

This is a more significant factor and a bigger handicap now than it was in the Big Eight or the Big XII. In the Big Eight, only Oklahoma and Nebraska had football crazed cultures and Missouri's greater population tended to offset that difference. The creation of the Big XII with the addition of Texas changed that and changed Mizzou's recruiting to hope to get the best in-state kids, but rely on Texas high schools.

The bottom line is Mizzou can't compete with the better SEC programs unless it goes out of state for the bulk of its talent. Pinkel followed the Don James's model. He tried to lock up his home state, but went to where his team played frequently for out of state talent, James to California, Pinkel to Texas and then with the move to the SEC, Georgia, Florida, etc.

Odom's shift of recruiting emphasis from the SEC states back to Texas is an interesting gambit since the Tigers will have only occasional games in Texas and therefore get less exposure than in the SEC states.

But yes, Missouri high school football is weak compared to most SEC states and it is a major disadvantage.
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Post Dispatch Super 30 - HDTiger MU - 8/18 09:54:25
     is MO high school football weak? - restore the roar MU - 8/18 13:57:19
          RE: is MO high school football weak? - sarasotatiger MU - 8/19 06:02:54
          Compared to some SEC states and Texas - Yes - ScottsdaleTiger MU - 8/18 16:17:53
               when AR joined the SEC it did not have spring football - tigerinhogtown STL - 8/18 16:42:49
                    MO for some reason is a basketball state - JayHoaxH8r MU - 8/18 16:46:29
     Incredibly high number of Missouri Valley type of players - Erwin Fletcher STL - 8/18 09:58:54
          Newton and Faron of Parkway North are both top players - OntheMark MU - 8/18 20:57:13
          I noticed the same thing. Just not a lot of guys - JimD MU - 8/18 10:23:23
               And we aren't getting the top lineman. (nm) - Uncle John MU - 8/18 10:28:52
                    Long time until signing day(nm) - Bobk MU - 8/18 10:29:20
                         always is, and they still sign elsewhere - FootballRefugee MU - 8/18 10:35:04
                              Success on the field this year will go a long way - Diamond Dave MU - 8/18 10:40:26
                                   So will an NFL coach who has been coaching a long time.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 8/18 13:24:02
                                        Dont you mean "failed" NFL coach? - tgrfan1 SEC - 8/18 15:19:52
                                             A putrid HC in Chicago who went to the Super Bowl and - tjwheeler UI - 8/18 16:25:41
                                        Charlie Weis says hi! - Diamond Dave MU - 8/18 15:11:18
                                             Pretty awful reasoning. (nm) - tjwheeler UI - 8/18 16:23:27
                                        RE: Lovie was a good hire for the Illini (for now) - missinglink MU - 8/18 13:32:18
                                             That could be said of every coach.(nm) - tjwheeler UI - 8/18 14:47:51
                                        Meh. That luster will wear off quickly if he doesn't - JimD MU - 8/18 13:30:11
                                             He'll fail. - Diamond Dave MU - 8/18 15:11:55
                                             I love this 75% glass empty approach towards Lovie - tjwheeler UI - 8/18 14:47:24
                                                  I said he was a near-home run hire for you guys - JimD MU - 8/18 15:31:14
                                                       Your reasoning confused me. - tjwheeler UI - 8/18 16:27:09
                                                            He's not perfect, but a very good hire for the Illini - JimD MU - 8/18 19:18:10
                                                  Is he more qualified to succeed as HC of a college program? - TheLegend MU - 8/18 15:15:40
                                   it's very possible - FootballRefugee MU - 8/18 10:58:20
                                        Outside of his stint at LSU (wasn't the OL coach), his - Diamond Dave MU - 8/18 11:24:01
                                             Elarbee has been successful at every stop he's had - JimD MU - 8/18 13:20:39
                                                  Yes, he's been successful. Pedigree isn't awe - Diamond Dave MU - 8/18 15:13:23
                                             Britt was drafted before Morse(nm) - Bobk MU - 8/18 12:38:19
                                                  Britt. Totally forgot him. Still though, they played - Diamond Dave MU - 8/18 13:01:48




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