Politics Board

Well there goes the neighborhood. - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 12:50:36

     RE: Well there goes the neighborhood. - MOCO SON MU - 4/8/21 13:28:42

     I can’t imagine why anyone would want - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 13:04:17

     Austin has been a Dem-Lib city for decades(nm) - Spanky KU - 4/8/21 13:03:20

          RE: Austin has been a Dem-Lib city for decades(nm) - MOCO SON MU - 4/8/21 13:34:52

     Some cities are now refunding and recruiting police - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 12:55:39

          But at first - mizzouSECedes STL - 4/8/21 13:01:02

          Funny how that worked out. (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 13:00:44

I guess my marriage is not a voluntary relationship - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 12:46:57

     you're very dishonest, 4Tigs. The argument is that you - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 18:06:27

     RE: I guess my marriage is not a voluntary relationship - MOCO SON MU - 4/8/21 13:50:44

     Lost mine, two of them(nm) - raskolnikov MU - 4/8/21 13:37:50

     Divorce is Latin for "Losing your ass"......nm - tigertix MU - 4/8/21 13:18:12

     what a truly terrible analogy(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 12:57:09

          the one thing he is good at on this board(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/8/21 13:53:39

          It was the argument made below - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 12:59:59

               no it wasn't, you're lying (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 18:07:38

               no it wasn’t (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 13:02:26

               because the two aren't even remotely comparable - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:01:39

                    but people are making a conscious decision to stay - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 13:03:10

                         I'm going to rape you until you pay me to stop - cnk ATL - 4/8/21 13:10:04

                         Every person debating this with us has likely made the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 13:05:15

                              it's awesome - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 13:08:14

                                   why do you keep ignoring everyone telling you that it's - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 18:08:27

                                   Days like this are one of the reasons I do this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 13:09:59

                                        it's certainly quality entertainment(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 13:12:11

                                   it's actually nothing like that - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 13:09:05

                                        we both went to rape at the same time - cnk ATL - 4/8/21 13:10:42

                                             true, government is a lot like a rapist (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 13:12:08

                                             wait - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:11:34

                                   what another truly terrible analogy - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:09:05

                                        oh, it's on the mark - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 13:10:58

                                             are you not living here on your own free will?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 13:12:34

                                                  Why you keep redirecting the argument is telling - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:15:38

                                             it's actually worse than Smugs bad attempt(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:12:21

                              false (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 13:06:08

                              when the initial decision was never voluntary - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:05:54

                              false (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 13:05:32

                         fluid? lol - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:04:23

                              sure it is - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 13:05:56

                                   lol, how absurd - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:06:54

                                        laugh at Webster, not me - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 13:09:06

                                             to have the definition right there for you - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:10:21

                                                  RE: to have the definition right there for you - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 13:12:57

                    But you can leave it as soon as you are an adult - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 13:03:08

                         false. citizenship is illegitimate to begin with (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 13:04:55

                         and the fact that everyone is required to pay to leave - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 13:04:46

                         but you never make a choice to be a citizen in the first - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:04:07

                              That is true - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 13:14:21

                                   so the analogy was truly terrible, I'm glad we agree(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:16:07

                                        If you or any of your friends wish to renounce their - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 13:17:45

                                             keep on trolling (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 13:33:07

                                   no (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 13:15:58

               no it wasn't. you're lying again (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 13:00:50

     you buzzed a lot of towers with this one - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 12:56:02

          Of course I am - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 12:56:26

     good grief you are an infantile ignoramus (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/8/21 12:54:48

          It was one of the arguments made - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 12:56:10

     Not from dissolving your marriage though - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/8/21 12:54:33

     was it an arranged marriage?(nm) - cnk ATL - 4/8/21 12:48:14

          Her family owed my family lots of money(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 12:52:45

               So your family traded you for the debt(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/8/21 12:58:01

                    There were mules, chicken and some sorghum involved as well(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 13:00:33

     smug troll trolls dishonestly (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 12:48:12

          yep (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 13:02:43

          there is nothing dishonest about this - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 12:57:00

               Again, I don't understand how you don't grasp the key - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 13:36:43

               no one ever said they were(nm) - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 13:02:39

               when the relationship is entered into involuntarily - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 12:57:34

          See below - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 12:53:50

               i'm skeptical (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 12:56:30

                    Narrator: "It wasn't" (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 13:33:25

     you were born into your marriage? - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 12:47:48

          I was not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 12:53:36

               no, that was just you being dishonest - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 12:56:14

                    Find me one adult US citizen who wishes to renounce their - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 12:59:08

                         irrelevant (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 13:00:26

          I was born in the rain on the Pontchartrain (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 12:48:32

               underneath the Louisiana mooooon(nm) - cnk ATL - 4/8/21 12:49:16

                    that f-ing song slaps hard every damn time - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 12:49:55

                         I'm listening to it right now(nm) - cnk ATL - 4/8/21 12:59:08

                              who dat? (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 13:05:51

                                   Hurricane by Band of Heathens - cnk ATL - 4/8/21 13:09:05

                                        nice (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 13:15:32

Left Libertarians Versus Reality - pickle MU - 4/8/21 12:40:11

     You should review this post. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 12:43:42

          the OP had never been posted here before (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 12:55:40

So wait, a state's witness in the Chauvin trial - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 12:37:14

     State witness testified he saw floyd foaming at mouth - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 12:46:42

Day 7400 +, republicans still don't understand - JG A - 4/8/21 12:20:42

     RE: Day 7400 +, republicans still don't understand - MOCO SON MU - 4/8/21 13:22:12

     You’re right, I don’t. Can you explain how it works? (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 13:06:53

     212K posts show you don't understand much of anything. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 12:47:45

     Wow, i thought 7400 was the number of lies about you since - hokie VT - 4/8/21 12:30:53

     I'll just go ahead and put you in this corner - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 12:23:19

          It's not about the IDs, he's explained it clearly - dangertim MU - 4/8/21 12:28:21

          Only complete idiots think - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/8/21 12:27:53

               Smurf'd it(nm) - Wildcat KSU - 4/8/21 13:42:23

               So, Democrats are idiots. Awesome job. (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 4/8/21 12:51:21

               lol(nm) - Ragnar Danneskjold MU - 4/8/21 12:49:18

                    he's probably wishing he could have edited that post - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 12:50:27

               you just called biden and his administration idiots (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 12:37:26

                    RE: you just called biden and his administration idiots (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 12:38:14

               agree with your statement - dangertim MU - 4/8/21 12:32:33

               here come's JG's white knight.....(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/8/21 12:30:19

               So the Biden admin is mis-characterizing the GA bill? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 12:29:09

TB Poll: which is more likely on guns - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/8/21 12:19:57

     RE: TB Poll: which is more likely on guns - MOCO SON MU - 4/8/21 13:24:31

     some will choose A and be replaced by those who choose B(nm) - cnk ATL - 4/8/21 12:44:59

          if there's too much pushback they'll just have the NG do it - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 12:45:54

               or an NGO or contractor(nm) - cnk ATL - 4/8/21 12:47:14

     B (nm) - MIZ45 MU - 4/8/21 12:43:43

     B - pickle MU - 4/8/21 12:42:42

     B in a landslide. Who pays cops? Gvmt does (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 12:38:01

     B (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 12:29:32

     I think it will be split across the country - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 12:28:37

Nice job, Joe(nm) - Gyro MU - 4/8/21 11:54:34

     What did he do--walk without falling down - mu7176grad MU - 4/8/21 11:58:57

          Made a complete sentence without the n-word (nm) - mizzouSECedes STL - 4/8/21 12:05:37

               Odd(nm) - Gyro MU - 4/8/21 12:12:55

          Finished his creamed corn AND metamucil (nm) - Mizzou Lou KC - 4/8/21 12:02:21

               Expect a big movement out of the White House later today.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 12:10:41

Tigrrrr! - Ace AU - 4/8/21 11:51:21

     But he was not on Floyd's neck - Spanky KU - 4/8/21 12:15:43

          you know better than the expert? Why am I not surprised - Ace AU - 4/8/21 12:28:09

               Testimony has already established he was not on Floyd's - Spanky KU - 4/8/21 12:41:22

     meh - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 11:52:08

Ban machetes. - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 11:40:02

     We need to know the races of the people involved to - hokie VT - 4/8/21 11:49:34

          News story reported the other day that in spite of providing - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 12:13:56

LaPierre needed a yacht safe space - Ace AU - 4/8/21 11:36:19

     We can all trust Shannon Watts when she provides excerpts - hokie VT - 4/8/21 11:43:46

     RE: LaPierre needed a yacht safe space - scan MU - 4/8/21 11:37:27

          LaPierre tells whopper of tales to avoid responsibility - Ace AU - 4/8/21 11:55:53

               RE: LaPierre tells whopper of tales to avoid responsibility - scan MU - 4/8/21 11:58:39

                    does your wife pemit you to spoon anymore? - Ace AU - 4/8/21 12:16:10

          That made me laugh(nm) - tcat KC - 4/8/21 11:46:21

So according to this one particular black racist idiot, if a - hokie VT - 4/8/21 11:29:06

     Well it's cool to be racist again...ask ivan - tcat KC - 4/8/21 11:34:46

So whadya think; domestic terrorism or a history of - hokie VT - 4/8/21 11:23:08

     ****ed off sane person - Spanky KU - 4/8/21 11:28:27

          Saaaaaaay whaaaaaat the fvck? - tigerfans3 MU - 4/8/21 11:38:37

               Sure they do(nm) - Spanky KU - 4/8/21 11:41:08

          The only thing that we can be sure of, is that it was not - hokie VT - 4/8/21 11:34:35

today is a good day to remember - pickle MU - 4/8/21 11:21:40

     when you are in a voluntary relationship - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 11:51:37

     It's also a good day to post something original. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 11:46:14

     Again(nm) - tman MU - 4/8/21 11:33:17

Expert testimony - Ace AU - 4/8/21 11:00:17

     The more I watch videos of this the more I think Chauvin - MU-TULSA MU - 4/8/21 11:19:18

          Definately... - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/8/21 12:05:52

          Is any of that in evidence? There is video evidence of - hokie VT - 4/8/21 11:38:37

          he had that look on his face - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 11:23:00

     Obango said the prosecution now says the knee didn't - hokie VT - 4/8/21 11:15:07

          Legally, that may not benefit the defense... - Gyro MU - 4/8/21 11:53:41

               So counselor, If a cop is arresting a man high on - hokie VT - 4/8/21 12:01:27

     haha, you just reel em in - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 11:08:25

          RE: haha, you just reel em in: Ace is on the payroll. No - BH O'bonga MU - 4/8/21 11:37:57

     the overdose kept him from oxygen. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 11:05:40

     which expert was this? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 11:03:44

          one who testified - Ace AU - 4/8/21 11:33:42

     Why couldn’t he breathe when he was - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 11:01:57

          a knee was not cutting off his breathing - Ace AU - 4/8/21 11:14:42

               Exactly, so why couldn’t he breathe when in the car?(nm) - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 11:19:31

                    he didn't die in the car - Ace AU - 4/8/21 11:20:31

                         Only because they let him out. He was dying somewhere. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 11:30:43

                              Not to mention meth and the fact he had worked... - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 11:33:21

                         Didn’t say he did, why can’t you answer the question? (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 11:24:30

So, we get to trial and the prosecution suddenly reduces - BH O'bonga MU - 4/8/21 10:48:41

     BLM has all they need to burn and loot with impunity - mu7176grad MU - 4/8/21 11:09:37

          Yep, just look at Portland (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 11:27:34

     dems, media poured gas on the false narrative at the start - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 11:03:58

          Yep, which makes Pelosi, AOC, Schumer, Harris... - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 11:08:32

     Just remember they will be mostly peaceful riots when - tcat KC - 4/8/21 11:02:23

     Facts are not an essential part of a guilty verdict, anymore - hokie VT - 4/8/21 10:50:26

          RE: Facts are not an essential part of a guilty verdict, anymore - MOCO SON MU - 4/8/21 10:54:50

Now some fear porn that might actually work - dangertim MU - 4/8/21 10:18:15

     The next step will be to link erections with racism. Some - hokie VT - 4/8/21 11:01:46

     100 people..lol(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/8/21 10:39:20

          that's why it's called "fear porn" and not "fear actual - dangertim MU - 4/8/21 10:42:06

     Well then - Panthera MU - 4/8/21 10:25:25

     What if you just put the mask on your member? Will that - BH O'bonga MU - 4/8/21 10:24:38

     My dong is invincible - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:23:27

          What a dick. Nm - hokie VT - 4/8/21 10:52:01

          Allow my to post a picture that represents the post you just - dangertim MU - 4/8/21 10:33:27

               That pretty much nails it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:48:43

               RE: Allow my to post a picture that represents the post you just - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 10:34:52

                    what a poetic metaphor(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/8/21 10:37:02

If anyone wishes to dispute your citizenship is a voluntary - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 09:56:56

     But HOAs are not voluntary - meatiger MU - 4/8/21 11:02:50

          they are voluntary(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/8/21 11:11:35

               Correct - no one makes you join - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:16:57

                    OH, So now you want to focus on how you join - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:20:59

                         It doesn't matter - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:21:53

                              False. (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:24:41

                              no (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 11:22:52

               it was sarcasm - meatiger MU - 4/8/21 11:16:40

                    ah(nm) - dangertim MU - 4/8/21 11:20:22

     citizenship is applied to a newborn, they aren't given - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 10:40:50

          So if you aren't able to be a citizen at birth but can do so - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:08:39

               No. How do you compare those two things? - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:31:05

          That does not change the fact that as soon as their - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:49:47

               I was corrected on that(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:21:02

               This is downright false. (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:19:10

               Citizenship is imposed at birth by force and without choice - pickle MU - 4/8/21 10:53:57

               Wow(nm) - Panthera MU - 4/8/21 10:51:26

               wrong. "parents may not renounce the citizenship of their - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/8/21 10:51:24

     the State (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 10:08:37

          how is the state forcing you to keep your citizenship?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 10:39:02

               They don’t (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 10:44:48

               "keep"? lol. I think you mean "get"/"become". The - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 10:42:11

                    sure, but this is about dropping it - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 10:45:56

                         This isn't just about "dropping it". The question in the OP - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 10:47:32

                              But dropping it is voluntary...is it not?(nm) - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 10:48:57

                                   That doesn’t make the relationship voluntary - pickle MU - 4/8/21 11:04:29

                                        Wow, awesome example. (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 11:30:34

                                   Sure, what does that have to do with whether becoming - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 10:50:59

                                        I said it is a voluntary association - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:58:36

                                             No, you realized halfway through the thread that minors - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:18:23

                                                  I was wrong on that point, but it is consistent with most - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:20:30

                                                       It's not. (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:23:17

                                                       lol (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 11:22:30

                                                            Show me one adult being forced to maintain citizenship - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:24:40

                                                                 It's amazing how quickly you change your parameters - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:26:07

                                                                      So answer this - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:31:16

                                                                           It's not the same thing. - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:34:34

                                                                           There is no legitimacy behind it - pickle MU - 4/8/21 11:34:03

                                                                      yep (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 11:30:43

                                                       No, it is not a voluntary relationship (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 11:22:28

                                             false (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 11:06:00

                                        because citizenship becomes voluntary - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 10:55:07

                                             A relationship can't all the sudden become volunatry. - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:17:20

                                                  look up what voluntary means - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 11:21:11

                                                       Look up what voluntary association means. - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:28:14

                                                            An out clause - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:34:59

                                                                 To use pickle's example above. - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:36:53

                                                                      Who is forcing you under threat to remain a citizen? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:37:26

                                                                           The state, unless I hand over money. - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:39:00

                                                                                So since there are consequences if I don't pay my - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:43:23

                                                                                     You signed up for that under a written contract - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:45:13

                                                            yes, that's why I said it is no longer a voluntary - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 11:29:34

                                                                 I think you mean the opposite. - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:35:55

                                                                      correct, sorry(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 11:49:00

                                                                      Penalties have nothing to do with it - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:36:52

                                                                           the State solely exists by force and coercion - pickle MU - 4/8/21 11:40:17

                                                                                except that your citizenship becomes voluntary - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 11:49:38

                                                                                     It doesn't. - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:52:27

                                                                                          there is a financial penalty for moving out of the country?(nm) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 12:29:38

                                                                                               no, there is a financial penalty for renouncing citizenship - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 12:32:55

                                                                                                    but aren't you only subjugated to the laws if you live here? - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 12:34:56

                                                                                                         “subjugated” (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 13:01:27

                                                                                                         no, you are subjugated to the laws as long as you hold - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 12:39:56

                                                                                                              is a U.S. citizen working in London (or some other city) - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 12:41:42

                                                                                                                   yes (nm) - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 12:48:08

                              you responded to this specific question - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 10:48:56

     why would renouncement be required if it was voluntary? - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 09:59:14

          OK - I will respond to you on this one - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:15:39

               "rights and privileges" which are "bestowed upon you" withou - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 10:46:14

               you joined the employer or club voluntarily - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 10:23:00

                    Yes, when you renounce membership with almost anything there - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:25:26

                         Why did you not address his post. You never voluntarily - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 10:48:23

                              Sure it does - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:52:45

                                   “forced to remain”. Were they forced to begin with? (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 10:55:02

                         ^^^Used to work out. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/8/21 10:39:57

                         If you actually paid attention - meatiger MU - 4/8/21 10:34:47

                              Name one adult citizen of the US who is being forced - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:53:16

                                   every adult that the State claims is a citizen - pickle MU - 4/8/21 10:55:41

                                   remaining a citizen is irrelevant to the fact you are forced - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 10:54:49

                                        There are almost always consequences to leaving something - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:55:35

                                             false - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 10:58:50

                                                  Name one adult US citizen being forced to remain a citizen - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:00:43

                                                       LOL, liar - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:14:01

                                                            That is like saying if you cannot become a US citizen until - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:17:44

                                                                 Not at all. As usual, that's a horrible analogy. (nm) - kmawv8 KC - 4/8/21 11:29:07

                                                                 no (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 11:19:54

                                                       again, that doesn’t make it a voluntary relationship - pickle MU - 4/8/21 11:06:51

                         There is nothing voluntary about it (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 10:31:16

                         it isn't voluntary if it's forced - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 10:27:50

                              because he doesn’t want to believe it - pickle MU - 4/8/21 10:32:03

                              it makes sense "in his mind" - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/8/21 10:29:12

               again, you keep trying to equate gvmt with business - pickle MU - 4/8/21 10:20:47

               Were you employed at your employer, or a member of your - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/8/21 10:18:15

                    No, but why does that matter? - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:21:12

                         because it is the very essence of "voluntary" lol - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 10:49:43

                         because of this - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 10:26:51

                              That may point to the impact of citizenship - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:28:07

                                   there is nothing voluntary about it. Start at the beginning - pickle MU - 4/8/21 10:30:29

                                   have you ever tried? - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 10:29:10

                                        there is a big fee, you have to take an oath, travel to - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/8/21 10:30:32

                                             No one said it is without effort - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:54:19

                                             and then continue paying taxes afterwards - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 10:33:47

                                        I have not - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:30:16

                                             you did not voluntarily join (nm) - 90Tiger STL - 4/8/21 10:52:08

                                                  Name one adult citizen of the US who is being forced - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:53:39

                                                       What happens when you renounce your citizenship?(nm) - meatiger MU - 4/8/21 11:17:50

                                                            You lose the privileges of citizenship(nm) - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:18:19

                                                                 what does that mean? - meatiger MU - 4/8/21 11:29:13

                                                                      There are benefits to being a US citizen - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 11:38:02

                                                                 lol (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 11:20:20

                         Minors are limited in renouncing citizenship - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/8/21 10:24:29

                              But it can be done as you lay out - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:26:32

                                   If you are 16 or under you can't. Nothing voluntary about - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/8/21 10:27:26

                                        Presumed not forbidden(nm) - tman MU - 4/8/21 10:33:15

                                             it doesn't happen. The State department presumes - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/8/21 10:38:28

                                        As with most issues with minors - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:29:55

                                             read it again, the parents of a minor, explicitly, CANNOT - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/8/21 10:32:18

                                                  OK - my bad - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 10:51:35

                         Because the State imposes “citizenship” on people - pickle MU - 4/8/21 10:24:00

                              You had the option to leave on day one - tman MU - 4/8/21 10:28:00

                                   Incorrect (nm) - TigerJackSwartz MU - 4/8/21 10:41:44

                                        You are correct. - tman MU - 4/8/21 10:52:31

          he’s not being honest - pickle MU - 4/8/21 10:09:55

Congrats GA dems. Your fat fake gov got MLB game moved. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 09:35:27

     The real governor and the General Assembly got the game - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/8/21 10:21:04

          Nice spin. always providing cover for a dem - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 10:30:01

          Hahaha...sheeple (nm) - tcat KC - 4/8/21 10:29:09

     I won't be attending an MLB game any time soon..Kemp and the - tigertix MU - 4/8/21 09:55:12

Another shooting with multiple fatalities - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 09:31:35

     no, it will STILL be Trumps faulk - he did SOOO much damage - tigerinhogtown STL - 4/8/21 10:56:42

     shame it wasn't an AR ... could have been real useful - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 10:46:17

          Nah...he was not white enough. Nm - BandG MU - 4/8/21 11:04:14

     Now it's the guns fault again(nm) - tcat KC - 4/8/21 10:28:26

     Still haven't heard a peep about the Boulder shooting - mizzouSECedes STL - 4/8/21 09:44:43

          Still waiting for Biden to condemn the shooting of the - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 09:49:06

               And I must have missed the news of the memorial service - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 09:51:25

          Or the LA killing by the Mexican - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 09:48:14

     Ghost gun. A ghost .45 ACP with extended magazine and a - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 09:43:01

     You obviously haven’t been following Dem politics - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 09:37:09

          I blame George Bush. (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 09:43:29

     BS.. only crackers do mass shootings.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/8/21 09:32:53

This makes sense to liberals - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 09:23:17

     You supported the $6T “stimulus” - pickle MU - 4/8/21 09:46:16

     It's an insult to tax paying citizens. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 09:29:02

     Why not? I’m sure NY is rolling in extra cash and - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 09:27:15

     RE: This makes sense to liberals: It does if your goal is - BH O'bonga MU - 4/8/21 09:27:11

The Logic of 'Love It or Leave It' - ashtray UF - 4/8/21 09:21:35

     implementing a new government seems pretty "leave it" - gmmm98 MU - 4/8/21 09:27:58

     the gap is a mile wide - Fire Marshall Bill MU - 4/8/21 09:24:27

Just in time for the Spring riot and looting season. - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 09:16:06

     RE: Just in time for the Spring riot and looting season. - MUTGR MU - 4/8/21 09:40:11

LA Teachers Union have another demand before returning - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 09:06:46

     That's ridiculous bullshyte. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 09:31:24

     It will never be enough - Eggs MU - 4/8/21 09:11:38

     Never let a crisis go to waste (nm) - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 09:11:35

     And their choice of apple varieties. No more... - Deputy Dawg MU - 4/8/21 09:10:05

     There will be other demands down the road - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 4/8/21 09:09:21

Honk your horn. NOW. Link - hokie VT - 4/8/21 09:01:35

     Link added. Nm - hokie VT - 4/8/21 09:04:36

Pop some corn - just getting started - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 08:24:35

     Joe has nearly completed the America last strategy in the - DollarSigns MU - 4/8/21 09:18:13

     All made possible by dem, media collusion and thievery. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 09:06:16

     To further complicate Xiden*'s impotence, Sen. Manchin - BH O'bonga MU - 4/8/21 08:59:29

     I'd suspect Biden and even Kamala are doing very little - Eggs MU - 4/8/21 08:57:13

          Gubmit's greatest fear is that you'll start to question it. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/8/21 09:03:52

               There are a few of us, but not enough to make a difference - Eggs MU - 4/8/21 09:04:52

                    There's more than you think. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/8/21 09:06:03

                         Too bad that's not true(nm) - Wildcat KSU - 4/8/21 10:24:32

                              it is true (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 10:32:41

                                   I believe it to be true - Panthera MU - 4/8/21 10:41:47

                         I'm going to believe you because I really want to(nm) - Eggs MU - 4/8/21 09:17:39

                    We get the government we deserve - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 09:05:38

                         speak for yourself (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 09:11:36

     It’s almost like we shouldn’t have a ruler at all(nm) - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/8/21 08:36:03

          Should businesses have people in charge? Should there be - hokie VT - 4/8/21 08:49:53

               Dude, go back to bed. (nm) - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/8/21 08:53:12

                    Good post birdshlt, it’s all clear to me now. Thanx. Nm - hokie VT - 4/8/21 08:57:04

               you’re ignorant (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 08:50:57

          There really aren't any successful societies, teams or any - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 08:40:08

               why do you keep comparing voluntary organizations - pickle MU - 4/8/21 09:01:02

                    He believes in the power that government takes from us - meatiger MU - 4/8/21 09:02:53

                         You are permitted to leave, you know. You’re not a - hokie VT - 4/8/21 09:06:36

                              no. again, you are ignorant (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 09:10:48

                              This is a discussion board - meatiger MU - 4/8/21 09:09:45

                                   But to be a citizen here is voluntary, and if you wish to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 09:14:41

                                        You are conflating the facts, logic and good judgment. Meat - hokie VT - 4/8/21 10:48:51

                                        incorrect (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 09:17:36

               But those occur voluntarily - El-ahrairah BAMA - 4/8/21 08:47:03

                    And you don't have to live in the United States - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 08:50:41

                         Once you realize that it is essentially the same thing - meatiger MU - 4/8/21 09:04:49

                              Not much quite honestly changes from administration - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 09:07:37

                         lazy (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 09:01:28

                         dumb and lazy smugs (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 08:56:39

                              If that is so - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 09:04:52

                    Like ISIS(nm) - tman MU - 4/8/21 08:50:26

     What’s to worry, this is why every presidential... - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 08:27:54

          Love that she was put in charge of the border - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 08:29:44

               The border is yucky. HAHAHAHA, right? Nm - hokie VT - 4/8/21 08:33:25

               She seems to like bakeries, they got any at the border?(nm) - Outsider MU - 4/8/21 08:32:49

     This should have been obvious before the election.(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/8/21 08:27:36

          It was to anyone paying attention - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 08:30:38

It's like a scene from Men in Black. - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 08:22:23

     did you get hit with a neuralyzer 40 days ago? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 08:25:56

          Sure. Whatever. If you say so. (nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 08:33:16

               I didn't say so it was a question. do you know how questions - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 08:38:49

                    You are oblivious to the way Tigerboard works.(nm) - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 08:53:52

                         oh, how's that? what am I oblivious to? (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 08:54:48

                              nearly everything it seems. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 09:07:50

                                   back to your cowardly ways after the - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 09:19:30

lol, how can they still make this mistake? - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 08:16:25

     Because it's tough to keep up the BS act 100% of the - Eggs MU - 4/8/21 09:00:40

     It wasn't a mistake. - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 4/8/21 08:45:34

          Right, the mistake is not realizing - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 08:57:16

          that's what I meant by mistake, getting caught (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 08:54:02

               It could be that the double mutant strain of the virus now - Bulldog Bob Brown STL - 4/8/21 09:06:57

          Correct - think of what we now - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 08:48:55

     The emperor wears no clothes (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 08:37:53

     Think of all the lives he saved though - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 08:23:43

     As we see on this board with a glowing example - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 08:18:03

          They call it, “setting an example” for the ignorant - hokie VT - 4/8/21 08:21:13

          sure, but getting caught on video - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 08:20:03

               Do you think CNN will show that? Or CBS, ABC, NBC? Like - hokie VT - 4/8/21 08:25:56

                    no. yes. (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 08:26:48

               It won't matter to so many - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 08:20:49

               a government worker being sloppy? - MizzouAstro MU - 4/8/21 08:20:38

                    sloppy with money, rights, lives etc is one thing but - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 08:23:34

Imagine believing voter suppression exists based off - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 07:49:53

     RE: Imagine believing voter suppression exists based off - gmmm98 MU - 4/8/21 08:28:37

     Voter rolls can be cleaned up locally - Tigerfish MU - 4/8/21 08:24:21

          Libs just get more brazen. The stolen election was - hokie VT - 4/8/21 08:47:04

          'Multiple votes per voter' - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/8/21 08:27:43

               GA had a lot of voting issues - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 08:32:32

                    Yeah...GA had a lot of voting issues - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/8/21 08:47:06

                         I just posted an article directly refuting - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 08:52:53

                              You just posted an article directly - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/8/21 09:03:09

                                   It isn't Trump's fault that GA didn't prevent it from - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 09:09:04

     Speaking of water, when was the last time - GA Tiger MU - 4/8/21 08:14:00

          Do you even know who the candidate is? - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/8/21 08:28:59

          that's one of the complaints I see GAT - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 08:18:51

     Colored people are property, chattel of the D party. And the - hokie VT - 4/8/21 08:08:56

     No, Sal, that's your way of thinking. Sad nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/8/21 07:58:36

          Care to explain it then? What is so hard about voting?(nm) - TigerMatt STL - 4/8/21 08:21:30

          You can refute it. (nm) - tman MU - 4/8/21 08:04:05

               I always do. Sal doesn't speak for the left. He barely is - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/8/21 08:06:21

                    How is what I said inaccurate? - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 08:07:13

          Not at all because I don't believe the lie that there - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 07:59:43

               You don't speak for the left. Nm - SparkyStalcup MU - 4/8/21 08:06:53

                    It's simple logic (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 08:07:37

     You've had a rough couple of days - JayHoaxH8r MU - 4/8/21 07:53:31

          ^^^ A superb liberal. Stop contrary opinions so - GA Tiger MU - 4/8/21 08:18:30

          RE: You've had a rough couple of days - BH O'bonga MU - 4/8/21 08:01:23

          Lol...Poor Sal - mizzoumurfkc KC - 4/8/21 07:56:45

               *^^typical insightful post^^(nm) - redngray MU - 4/8/21 08:16:23

               RE: Lol...Poor Sal - BH O'bonga MU - 4/8/21 08:01:51

               woof - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 07:57:56

          Why is that? (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 07:55:15

Anyone who blasted Trump for what was happening on the - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:27:11

     Not fair, Biden only made it seven times worse. - RHAYWORTH MU - 4/8/21 09:10:06

          Just read the reasoned rebuttals below - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 09:20:45

     Xiden* miscalculated the impact of his invitation to Mexican - BH O'bonga MU - 4/8/21 08:06:16

          I note that even the dums are finding it difficult now to - GA Tiger MU - 4/8/21 08:16:32

               And you see it with rask - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 08:20:12

     If your policy is to take children from their mothers, yet - raskolnikov MU - 4/8/21 07:40:02

          Ok, so you would do what then? I can't wait.(nm) - GA Tiger MU - 4/8/21 08:10:24

          it's the policy of mothers in other countries sending - 5_Star_True_Son MU - 4/8/21 07:59:00

               Anchor babies. - Tigrrrr! MU - 4/8/21 08:23:39

          no one is as uninformed as you (nm) - pickle MU - 4/8/21 07:50:50

          you didn't think this through (nm) - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 07:43:21

               When does Rask think anything through? (nm) - TIGERROAR MU - 4/8/21 07:45:29

                    Because the very nature of being driven by emotion is to - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:47:07

                         If you could see your anti-Rask circle jerk from a far . . . - raskolnikov MU - 4/8/21 07:52:58

                              it is, but so is the center of the circle (nm) - SwampTiger MU - 4/8/21 07:57:14

                              Look at this thread alone rask - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:56:10

          More children are separated from their mothers now because - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:42:29

               No. Sorry but "basically told" is not reality based - raskolnikov MU - 4/8/21 07:45:43

                    Mexico's president admits it. The parents sending their - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:49:33

                         The people in a desperate state act for their children - raskolnikov MU - 4/8/21 07:57:12

     Wait—Pelosi just praised Biden’s handling of border - mu7176grad MU - 4/8/21 07:33:14

          And VP Harris, who Biden put in charge of the border - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:33:51

     RE: Anyone who blasted Trump for what was happening on the - pickle MU - 4/8/21 07:31:23

     Couldn't the inverse also be said? - Say_What MU - 4/8/21 07:28:53

          I see more criticism of Biden losing control - Sal CMSU - 4/8/21 07:45:29

               Yet they try to say we are hypocrites because we ask why - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:50:27

          Why is holding them to their own standard being a hypoctrite - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:31:27

The Xiden* Admin believed they had Sen. Manchin bought off - BH O'bonga MU - 4/8/21 07:02:51

     Old News. Manchin came out against removing - Say_What MU - 4/8/21 07:27:48

     Well, Biden sd yesterday he will negotiate tax rates AND he - raskolnikov MU - 4/8/21 07:22:21

          He has won one congressional fight on purely partisan votes - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:27:58

               You had your ass handed to you son - raskolnikov MU - 4/8/21 07:38:17

                    The dems hold a slim advantage in the House and it is a - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:39:56

                         ROFLMFAO - no sht Serlock it is called politics - raskolnikov MU - 4/8/21 07:42:58

                              The economy was already set to grow at 8-10% rask - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:52:07

     He may just be “negotiating”. We’ll see. He’s a D. He - hokie VT - 4/8/21 07:17:12

          Correct. They already have all this mapped out, R and D. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/8/21 07:20:38

     It's time he switched party affiliations. Either that... - Deputy Dawg MU - 4/8/21 07:14:39

          Unlikely. When he is up again, the economy will be cooking - raskolnikov MU - 4/8/21 07:24:08

               If Trump benefitted for 8 years from Obama's economy - 4TigersinMichigan MU - 4/8/21 07:29:21

                    Trump really didn't have much of one separated much - raskolnikov MU - 4/8/21 07:51:43

     All theater for droolers. - Newcatbirdseat MU - 4/8/21 07:12:51